Ruger No.1 204 Ruger

El Numero Uno,

I just visited your site and took a look around. Great information! GB has an A and an AB. I have a B in 223 so I am on the fence between A or AB. PM the details about the A you have.

Anyone shoot them and willing to provide some details about performance?
 
I own a 1A and used it on S. Dakota prairie dogs last year. MY old stand by is a 1V in .22-250. I found the 1A in .204 is a very light weight, easy to handle piece, especially while moving around a ranch on a 4 wheeler. The cartridge is fun to reload and there are lots of choices in bullets and powder. I would say if you are going to use the gun for benchrest shooting at paper, the short, light barrel on the 1A will not give the accuracy you might want. But, it is hard to improve on the 1A if you want an easy carrying and packing gun. Mine is topped with a Leupold
Vari X III in 3.5 X 10 power scope. My preferred varmint scope is the Leupold 6.5 X 20 power, but it is just too big on the little 1A. Brass Frame/Lee
 
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Here are some pictures of the Model 1 A in 204. Great shooter. 108 yards with Hornady 40 grain.

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:)
 
Gents,

If I had a choice I'd go for a #1B in .204 Ruger. If they made a (don't know for sure) #1V I'd snag that.

Recently bought a new #1V in .223 with the 1:9" twist rate. The darn thing shoots ragged holes with 69 Gr. Sierra Match Kings, 26.4 Gr. N140, Winchester case (match prep'd), and a Federal 205 Match Primer. WOW!

In this day and age I'd go with the .223 instead. If you need velocity go to a 40 grain bullet or the .22-250.

The .204 is a dandy cartridge, but doesn't have the bullet weight I prefer...

Working on a .250 Savage Ackley Improved and THAT is going to be a humdinger!

Enjoy your Rugers.

Wes
 
weshowe,
I have a B model in 223 and it shoots great. I really like the compact feel and the iron sites of A models. Ruger does not offer an A model in 223 so I went for the next best option, 204 Ruger. I do have a V model in 6MM Rem and enjoy the lite recoil provided by the added weight and barrel profile. I have been eyeballing the V's in 223 but have not made a move yet.

mrbumps,
Thanks for the heads up on that CDNN flyer. I paid that amount for mine off GB and thought it was a heck of a deal.
 
The 204 Ruger was/is made in the "A", "AB", "B" and "V" configuration. I think that all except MAYBE the "A" have been discontinued

I have a "V, available ONLY as a stainless/laminate rifle, a standard "B" and an "AB" that I changed over to an "AH" to use as a walk around rifle for smaller varmints.

At first I sort of stayed away from the 204 as I already owned and shoot semi custom/custom #1s in various .17 caliber cartridges, 17 Mach IV, 17/222 and 17 Remington. The tiny bore rifles, including #1s are a niche rifle that fill a very small "Hole" but do that well and are fun to shoot. I built my first ".17" when I moved and lost my spotter and needed something to shoot varmints that didn't recoil off the sight picture. The 17s were perfect for that. You get what amounts to zero or near zero recoil and can actually see the bullet hit and correct if needed.

My brother RG bought a "B" in 204 when they first came out but I hesitated buying a 204 after talking to him. His and my later experience suggests that once you go to bullet weights above the mid 30s and a scope much bigger than 18x you lose the ability to "watch" shots" hit. There is JUST enough recoil with bullets in the 40 grain range to carry your eye off target under recoil with a BIG scope. If you are with a scope much bigger than 18x you lose the ability to see the shot hit. Now if your using heavier bullets and a scope below 12x or so that probably isn't an issue.

The other thing to think about with the 204 is that like the various 17s it starts out very fast BUT due to light bullets weight and a very low BC they shed velocity and thus energy REALLY fast and are highly subject to drift at range with ANY wind. As a general rule I consider the 17s and the 204 Ruger along with the 204 VarTarg and the rest as 250 yard cartridges at best. Inside that they are effective on thin skinned varmints, even up to coyotes BUT after that the energy is so low they become iffy. It also become iffy hitting a picketpin at 250+ yards.

Object lesson I shot some steel silohuette targets with my 17 Remington and a 30 grain Berger bullet. They blew right through the 1/2 plate steel of the chicken on the 200 meter rail. If you hit the javelina on the 300 meter rail, high on the back it would knock it off the rail and leave a shallow crater in the steel. In order to topple the turkey on the400 meter rail you had to hit it within 1/2 an inch of the top of the head and then it would SLOWLY turn and fall off the rail. The bullet just pecked the paint off the target. I can't remember EVER hitting the Ram on the 500 meter rail and certainly never knocked one over.

I have killed a few antelope and deer with the 30 grain Berger in the 17 Remington and my brother has killed a few with his 204 also. That said it's more of a stunt than anything else and not to be recommended and even then only within very narrow parameters with a really good sight picture at yardages under 150 yards or so.

On the other hand they are an absolute riot to use on ground squirrels, jack rabbits etc as long as you don't try and stretch it too far. They will kill coyotes and badgers and big rock chucks out to 250 or so but shot placement is critical and wind drift becomes an issue.

I would never recommend one as a guys sole varmint rifle. But if you already have a 22 CF the 204 is a LOT of fun with virtually zero recoil as long as you understand it's limits

My other walk around close range varmint/squirrel rifles are a #1 AH in 222, another in 223 (used to be an "AB") and the 204 "AH" that started life as an "AB" Oh also a #2 in "AH" in 17 Mach IV (17 Fireball). No sights as all are scoped.

RWT
 
I shoot the 1-B in .204 and have found it to be very accurate coyote stopper. Usually use Hornady 40gr ammo with good success. Will start reloading soon and look forward to trying some different bullet weights and powders. Have mine scoped with a Nikon Coyote Special and have found it to work well on the No.1-B. Hope you can find the one you want!
 
Picketpin,
I enjoyed reading your comments about the 204 chambering concerning capabilities in different bullet weights. That is what I enjoy so much about this forum. Members share experiences that provide others with the information needed to make good selections on ammunition and uses.

I appreciate the time you took to share your experiences. Now you got me thinking about 17's. :)
 
Buck: In this day and age with factory 204s out there in #1s I don't know that I would BUILD a 17.

I love mine but they were built way back in the late 70s or early 80s and had the 204 existed/been chambered from the factory back then in a #1, I may have never built my 17s. Okay, I probably would have but I'm...odd.

I actually started with 17s with a O' Brian (Sako) in 17 Mach IV and a Custom Sako in 17 Javalina in the late 60s.

If a guy was to actually build a 17 caliber #1 NOW, I would build either the 17 Fire Ball for velocities up to 3400 fps with out using much powder and absolutely no felt recoil even in very light rifles (several of my Mach Ivs weigh just over 5 pounds, scoped). The only difference in the Mach IV and the FB is actually a slight difference in shoulder angle and neck length. With factory rifles chambered in the FB and factory brass and loaded ammo available for the Fire Ball I probably wouldn't build another Mach IV.

The standard 17 Remington will give you about all you can get with a .17 bullet. My "B" started life as a factory "B" in 223. That way I didn't need to change the extractor or wood. I used a Douglas barrel in the factory "B" profile 26" long. I CAN get 4400 fps with a 25 grain bullet but my "go to" load is a 25 grainer, throttled back to 4000 fps. IF you decide to shoot bigger critters be sure and use the 30 grain Berger it isn't nearly as frangible as the various 20/25s.

We built a 17-222 Mag (204 Ruger) some years ago but it didn't produce enough increase over the standard 17 Remington to justify it the cost/time/effort

We won't even talk about the 17-22-250AI. ;-)

We have had very good results with both Douglas and Shilen barrels in .17

Most coyotes I shoot with the 204 just spin in a circle and drop. Autopsy shows that the bullet expodes and destroys the front lung and sometime the second one but seldom/if ever does it penetrate out the off side. It makes the 204 and the bigger 17s decent "hide" rifles for coyotes and badgers as you just have one tiny hole to sew closed. For me at least, anything smaller, ground squirrels, jack rabbits etc simply blow up!!! ;-(

IF I were going to use 45s as my primary bullet I might actually look at a 223. There's not much difference in case capacity in the 223/222 Mag (204) and the 223 does give you the advantage of using heavier bullets. On the other hand if a guy is after zero recoil and max velocity I'd probably get the 204. Of course you can always just own one of each. ;-)

Ross
 
I have 100 rounds of the Hornady 40 gr V Max and that is what I will use for getting a feel for how this rifle shoots. I will not go any heavier on bullet weight. I plan to try some of the 32 gr V Max next and see how that performs.
http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-32-gr-V-MAX
Want to try this 24 gr as well.
http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-24-gr-NTX/

I plan to stay on the lite side with the 204. Anything over 40 gr will be a job for my 223 B model.
 

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