gunman42782
Hunter
https://ruger.com/micros/customShop/index.html
Glad they finally opened up a Custom Shop, but who can afford them?????
Glad they finally opened up a Custom Shop, but who can afford them?????
Ruger Custom Shop
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caryc
Hawkeye
It's only a custom shop for what they want to make. Don't get the idea that you can send a gun to them to be customized.
It appears to be more a 'specialty shop' rather than a 'custom' shop.
$2500 ain't a lot for a truly custom 1911 ....... depending of course on exactly what was customized / improved.
YES!!! Finally! Hopefully their options and choices and available parts etc. will grow. I bet it will succeed. Smith and Wesson and others have had “custom shop” choices available for years now. It’s about time Ruger got into the game.
contender
Ruger Guru
It will only succeed if folks buy stuff from it!
Rick Courtright
Hawkeye
Hi,
If one buys something from the Custom Shop, will it have to be sent right back to be done right like so many of the standard versions? Methinks the ongoing QC issue will become far more important than ever if "custom" is to catch on.
Rick C
If one buys something from the Custom Shop, will it have to be sent right back to be done right like so many of the standard versions? Methinks the ongoing QC issue will become far more important than ever if "custom" is to catch on.
Rick C
I checked with a buddy there when I got the announcement yesterday.
Won't be a true custom shop, where you can order a gun built to your preferences on features, or send your own Ruger in for custom after-buy work.
It'll be more of a "High-Grade Shop", where you don't buy what you want to buy, you buy what they want to sell.
Higher-grade guns, but they decide what the package will be.
Denis
Won't be a true custom shop, where you can order a gun built to your preferences on features, or send your own Ruger in for custom after-buy work.
It'll be more of a "High-Grade Shop", where you don't buy what you want to buy, you buy what they want to sell.
Higher-grade guns, but they decide what the package will be.
Denis
ndcowboy
Blackhawk
I think we need to give this a chance. Like any new endeavor, it will evolve to more of what the customer wants. Hopefully in time they start doing more custom type work that people want, not just selling higher end models.
It seems that Ruger has a communication problem. Custom says one thing to the populace, while they mean something totally different.
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I think it's interesting Ruger is starting with two of the most- customized firearms in the market. This is a great venture - and deserves the support of Ruger fans. Who knows where it might lead?
One thing is for certain: the competition in this market is fierce. I wish them much success!
One thing is for certain: the competition in this market is fierce. I wish them much success!
contender
Ruger Guru
As DPris says,, it isn't a true custom shop. But,, just like S&W or Springfield,, they are using the "named" competition shooters to help sell a newer product. Many folks do follow these guys,, and since Ruger has a Competition Team now,,, they can offer a gun,, built to that person's "custom" idea. Think like the S&W JM model DA revolver,, or the Springfield TGO (Robbie Leatham) guns.
But it is a move in a different direction,, and hopefully,, it may lead to other good stuff.
But it is a move in a different direction,, and hopefully,, it may lead to other good stuff.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
Its a new venture for union satiation. So far two products...
This will drive the collectors nuts!
This will drive the collectors nuts!
caryc
Hawkeye
DPris said:
That's what I said in the second post in this thread.
CC,
I was clarifying what you said, via an inside contact.
Ruger tried something roughly similar before, with their "design studio".
Expensive Rugers that the customer had no choice in, take what the company offered or don't go there.
This sounds like it's off to the same start- people getting excited after waiting decades for a Ruger Custom Shop where they could order a custom-made gun to their specs, or send their trusty old Ruger in for a custom upgrade.
Important to understand here that it's ONLY Ruger's "High-Grade Department", and really shouldn't be called a custom shop.
They WILL be putting out deluxe guns & those should be quite nice.
Denis
I was clarifying what you said, via an inside contact.
Ruger tried something roughly similar before, with their "design studio".
Expensive Rugers that the customer had no choice in, take what the company offered or don't go there.
This sounds like it's off to the same start- people getting excited after waiting decades for a Ruger Custom Shop where they could order a custom-made gun to their specs, or send their trusty old Ruger in for a custom upgrade.
Important to understand here that it's ONLY Ruger's "High-Grade Department", and really shouldn't be called a custom shop.
They WILL be putting out deluxe guns & those should be quite nice.
Denis
wunbe
Buckeye
Wake me up when the custom shop undoes some of the inherent flaws in the factory original #1s -- like case catching safety knobs, lousy triggers, unsealed stocks, and erratic bedding. It will likely cost @ $3,000 --roughly what a true custom gun would. But at least then you have hand selected wood and no AH foreend.
wunbe
wunbe
caryc
Hawkeye
DPris said:
Yeah...mine was only a presumption. Yours was a verification. Thanks :wink:
I'm actually sorry to hear that I was right.
Paul B
Hunter
cas said:
Yeah, they're that bad. :x Regarding the safety, simple fix. Tilt the rifle slightly to the right as you eject the fired round. Misses the safety every time.
You can live with the triggers most of the time. You just have to work at it a little bit.
Unsealed stocks? I have 19 Ruger #1 rifles and three M77s. Not a single has a sealed stock. What dumb arse bean counter thought that was a good idea? On an elk hunt in Oregon I got caught in a serious down pour. The rifle, a #1B in .300 Win. Mag. got soaked just as badly as I did. Probably just as well I never saw a legal elk to shoot. After the hunt I threw several shots at a coyote and neither myself or the people with me could tell where the rifle was shooting. About a week later after coming home I took the rifle to the range and learned it was shooting 6 feet high. The wood in the forearm and butt stock had swelled up so badly tat the rifle shot high. I pulled the wood and stuck it out in my shed. Every once in a while I'd put it back on the action and go to the range. Long story short it took a bit over 6 years for the rifle to shoot even close to where it did before the rain storm.
I guess I got a bit lucky on bedding problems as the only one I had to do anything with was a #1A in .270 Win. I got it second hand the guy who had it said it wouldn't shoot. When I got it home I found he'd removed the raised portion at the forearm tip. I cut up a piece of old credit card, placed it under the forearm and the rifle shoots good now.
The only #1 I had a serious problem with was my #1A in 7x57. A 2.5" thoat is way out of spec. Ruger replaced the barrel and it's now a good shooter.
As far as using a Ruger #1 as a dangerous game rifle? Why not? A planned hunt for cape Buffalo got shot down back in the 1980's due to a large financial loss that was totally unexpected hit and hit hard. My rifle of choice was a #1 in .375 H&H and I've since acquired #1's in .404 Jeffery and .416 Rigby. I have no doubt any one of the three would work just fine. I've hunted with #1's since 1975 and only stopped in 2009 because the outfitter for my hunts does not allow single shot rifles. He sets up my hunts to allow for my two blown knees and has treated me more than fairly. so I go along.
Yes, Ruger rifle do have their faults but I've learned to work around them.
Paul B.
RSIno1
Hunter
The "improvements" to the 10-22 don't justify the $900 price - and why not 7071 instead of softer 6061 - c'mon give us something other than an additional recoil lug to tame that 22LR. A $2500 9mm 1911 design gets you into true custom pricing by proven manufacturers/builders. But if you're a collector buy now I'm sure the bean counters will kill this ASAP and fire the marketing guy that thought it up.DPris said:
It was Bill Junior who liked the idea of the earlier "studio", but that business model was not sustainable.
The current attempt CAN be a success, but the guns will have to be truly and markedly a cut above standard production to keep it going, and part of the equation there will be Ruger's people coming up with a quality level combined with a feature set that people will want to spend money on.
If Ruger won't make it a true custom shop & allow customers to dictate features on their guns, then Ruger for damn sure better find a feature set that a major percentage of potential buyers willing to go that high in pricing for a Ruger will want on their guns.
Denis
The current attempt CAN be a success, but the guns will have to be truly and markedly a cut above standard production to keep it going, and part of the equation there will be Ruger's people coming up with a quality level combined with a feature set that people will want to spend money on.
If Ruger won't make it a true custom shop & allow customers to dictate features on their guns, then Ruger for damn sure better find a feature set that a major percentage of potential buyers willing to go that high in pricing for a Ruger will want on their guns.
Denis
wunbe
Buckeye
cas,
The longer cased DGR brass do not always just 'bounce off'. Sometimes they hang up there. Not what you want with PO'd DG coming on.
I have never heard of someone being ingested or stomped flat due to that quirk -- sealed settlements ?-- but it definitely adds a little zest to the use of #1s as DGRs.
PS Had a modest collection -- @ three dozen -- at one time, but I have divested myself of all #1s but a half dozen or so custom #1s that meet my standards. (I even recently ditched my RUGER 1B vanity plate.)
wunbe
The longer cased DGR brass do not always just 'bounce off'. Sometimes they hang up there. Not what you want with PO'd DG coming on.
I have never heard of someone being ingested or stomped flat due to that quirk -- sealed settlements ?-- but it definitely adds a little zest to the use of #1s as DGRs.
PS Had a modest collection -- @ three dozen -- at one time, but I have divested myself of all #1s but a half dozen or so custom #1s that meet my standards. (I even recently ditched my RUGER 1B vanity plate.)
wunbe
SGW Gunsmith
Blackhawk
ndcowboy said:
I couldn't agree MORE! For the most part Ruger makes some pretty dang nice firearms for some reasonable prices, as opposed to others. Time will tell as to where interest and purchases take this venture, which is sorta obvious.
CraigC
Hawkeye
In the 10/22, I see more than just a fancied up factory rifle. They are CNC machining the receiver from aluminum billet, with an integral 30MOA rail and a dual mounting system with an anodized hardcoat finish. Plus a CNC machined bolt and all THAT is a significant departure from the standard model. If the barrel is good, it's a good value with an assumed $675 street price.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
:roll: Street price?
This whole idea was dictated by Chris Killoy. He cut his teeth at Smith and Wesson and saw how well the Performance Center did for Smith. The Smith PC could take a $400 production gun, add $25 of true work to it and end up able to charge $800 for the final product.
These two initial entrants are nothing more than Ruger's attempt to mimic Smith's successful PC.
This will never be a "Custom Shop" as envisioned by most consumers on this board. They just don't have the staff or knowledge. Ruger is very good at making 100,000 of a certain model, but they don't have the ability to do one offs.
I wish Ruger the best with this. The 10/22 is competitive in price and features with some of the other "factory custom" 10/22 rifles out there. However, I think they reached for the stars on the 1911 with most true custom houses charging what Ruger is asking for this gun.
These two initial entrants are nothing more than Ruger's attempt to mimic Smith's successful PC.
This will never be a "Custom Shop" as envisioned by most consumers on this board. They just don't have the staff or knowledge. Ruger is very good at making 100,000 of a certain model, but they don't have the ability to do one offs.
I wish Ruger the best with this. The 10/22 is competitive in price and features with some of the other "factory custom" 10/22 rifles out there. However, I think they reached for the stars on the 1911 with most true custom houses charging what Ruger is asking for this gun.
CraigC said:
It looks squeaky close to Tony Kidds action. But not close to the price of a Kidd. It could meet or exceed their sales projections.
The 1911....??? I'd be petty sure that it's not junk. It's got Koenigs name on it. He knows what a higher grade 1911 is or should be & more than likely specked the build. A street price on this? 2-$2100 ? That's trying to run with some big dogs.
CraigC
Hawkeye
Yeah, ya know the difference between MSRP and what it ACTUALLY sells for??? :roll:mohavesam said:
caryc
Hawkeye
In other words, the retail price.
