Ruger #1b Need advice, please.

oldrodder

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I recently bought this rifle, my 4th #1. The serial number dates it as shipped in 1975. It's a 1b in cal. .300 WM. The rifle came with Target style blocks. I'm not having any luck finding a "modern" scope for this rifle. Is it possible for a gunsmith to install a standard Ruger rail on this rifle? Drilling and tapping would be involved as my rifle has no extra holes other that those needed to attach the blocks. Where would one buy the rail? Are there any other options?

Thanks for ther help,

Mike
 
You have a very desirable 1V (varmint=24" barrel) rifle, especially since it was made pre-1976. I doubt it's a 1B (26" barrel), but I will never say never about early Ruger guns.
I would not drill any more holes in it than it already has, unless you don't care about seriously reducing its current value.
You might be better off selling this one to an interested collector and using part of the proceeds to buy a No. 1 in the caliber and congifuration you want that will take a modern scope. Just my $.02

P.S. Did you verify the ship date with Ruger, or just go by the serial number to come up with the 1975 ship date (which is not always accurate with Ruger No. 1s)

P.P.S. Welcome to the forum.
 
Thanks for the welcome and the reply, Blackhawk. I checked the bbl length and it is 24" I didn't think the .300 WM would be considered a "Varmint" calibre.................well, maybe in Texas!LOL. I read on another board, might have been here, that my rifle was made for Silhouette Shooting and that when they banned belted cases, the rifle was dropped. Maybe a more knowledgeable member might chime in here and shed some light. I only checked the Ruger site for the date of shipping. I'm not a collector, I thought it might be fun to see if I could make this thing shoot. I've owned three other No 1's, a 1h in .458WM, a 1v in 22-250 ,one in 30.06. And while they were all great guns, none were real tack drivers. I'm attaching a pic of the rifle.

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Mike
 
Yep, it sure looks like a pre-1976 1V. Apparently, they were made as silhouette or 1000 yd guns, but I doubt if they were too popular in those roles. Now their value is as collector pieces.
I'm sure someone here or over on the Yahoo No. 1 group would be interested if you decide to sell it. The target scope bases themselves are hard items to come by.
 
The 300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag were cataloged from 1973 till 1978. There might be as many as 300 of each and as few as 200. They were brought out when rifle silhouette first hit the USA but Ruger took long enough to bring them out, that by the time they were available, the sanctioning body had already outlawed belted mags due to target damage. They really are too much gun for serious varminting. That said either will hit a coyote out there where he's not used to being shot at.

Apparently there were some barrels on hand because I have seen both the 7mm Mag "V" and the 300 Win Mag "V" in rifles that were assembled and shipped in 1984 with all 1984 features except the barrel.

One of my 7mm Mag "V" letters to 1984.

The EASIEST way to solve the scoping problem is to simply have your smith drill the center set of holes that Ruger started using for scope blocks about 1976-1977.

The earliest "V" 1970 on had two set of scope block holes, 7 1/2 inches apart and were designed for after market scope blocks, Unertl, Redfield, Lyman and others in conjunction with the old long style target/varmint scope.

They later added another set of holes 3 1/2 from the rear set next to the receiver and started supplying Ruger scope blocks that use Ruger rings so you could use a more modern short tube scope.

The factory "Rib" will not fit a #1 "V" barrel as the diameter and the over all taper and profile are completely different than the standard "B" barrel or any other factory barrel.

The two holes and factory blocks are the simplest , easiest and least expensive way to go. If you are a shooter and not a pure collector it's the way to go. Whether it detracts from "collector value" is up to the guy you sell it to someday. BUT I've never let it stop me from buying one.

There are #1 "V" chamberings that are far rarer and made in fewer numbers BUT the big boomers are certainly interesting and collectable.

I've bought several of each over the years from guys that thought they would be the cat's meow for hunting but got tired of the added weight.

Of course you could simply look for a Unertl,3200 Redfield or a Lyman Target scope and not spend much more than the cost of a high end modern scope and have something that is "correct" and will usually shoot well.

I have Redfeild 3200s on a 25-06 "V" from 1973 and another on a 7mm Mag made in 1974 and while interesting and fun from a bench, they are a real pain in the bum when your are trying to use one in the field. From a bench is another matter all together.

Enjoy

Ross
 
The Target Blocks for the 3.5" holes are here: http://shopruger.com/Scope-Base-No-1-Varmiter/productinfo/90004/

Ted
 
Thanks Tbear. I tried but problems with their website. Will try again tomorrow or call on Monday.

Mike
 

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