RIP: The Queen of Soul

Rick Courtright

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Hi,

I just saw the news flash on the phone, Aretha Franklin has passed at the age of 76. There had been many reports the last few days that the time was coming, after a battle with cancer for several years. And now it has. Rest in peace, Dear Lady! You meant a lot more to the world than you could have ever imagined.

Rick C
 
Her work was never well aligned to my personal tastes. But her talent and her incredible influence on the industry and the people are undeniable truths. RIP Ms. Franklin...
 
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Maybe now her property taxes will finally get paid up.


In 1993, the IRS disputed her tax deductions, including nearly $237,000 paid as part of a judgment for failing to perform at a concert. The IRS said the payment could not be counted as a business expense, as Franklin had reported it. The same year, she reportedly paid more than $225,000 in back taxes. Two years later, the IRS put a roughly $490,000 tax lien on her Michigan house due to unpaid taxes.

In 1999, the The Detroit Free Press found that she was named in about 30 lawsuits alleging that she had skipped payments on everything from plumbing services to limo rides and flowers. (She called the story “malicious and vicious,” and blamed missed payments on her “travel and performance schedule and lack of a secretary in place during that period of time.”)

Then, in 2014, her condo association sued her, charging that she had not paid about $11,600 in homeowner fees. (Franklin responded that she felt she’d been overcharged and paid an amount she thought “was credible and legitimate.”)

At the time of her death, Franklin had an estimated net worth of $60 million.
 
She will be missed.

The link is to a video of "Think" from the Blues Brothers. There are some curse words in the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY66elCQkYk
 
Hi...
Interesting that she died on the same day as Elvis...August 16.
Queen of soul and the King of Rock n Roll.
 
Doc Holliday said:
Maybe now her property taxes will finally get paid up.


In 1993, the IRS disputed her tax deductions, including nearly $237,000 paid as part of a judgment for failing to perform at a concert. The IRS said the payment could not be counted as a business expense, as Franklin had reported it. The same year, she reportedly paid more than $225,000 in back taxes. Two years later, the IRS put a roughly $490,000 tax lien on her Michigan house due to unpaid taxes.

In 1999, the The Detroit Free Press found that she was named in about 30 lawsuits alleging that she had skipped payments on everything from plumbing services to limo rides and flowers. (She called the story “malicious and vicious,” and blamed missed payments on her “travel and performance schedule and lack of a secretary in place during that period of time.”)

Then, in 2014, her condo association sued her, charging that she had not paid about $11,600 in homeowner fees. (Franklin responded that she felt she’d been overcharged and paid an amount she thought “was credible and legitimate.”)

At the time of her death, Franklin had an estimated net worth of $60 million.

Sounds like someone I 'know'. :wink:

Another female singer to add to this list was Sandy Denny.
 
Honestly, I was surprised that last night NBC did half of its evening news show about the death of this singer. Other than her scene in "The Blues Brothers" I probably would never have remembered her name. But the passing of anyone is an occasion of sadness for those that loved and knew her. RIP.
 
Doc Holliday said:
exavid said:
What's the point of airing someone's shortcomings on the day of her death? RIP

Don't know, maybe ask the website that ran this story.

Don't be a coward. You shared it ........ own it.
 
hittman said:
Doc Holliday said:
exavid said:
What's the point of airing someone's shortcomings on the day of her death? RIP

Don't know, maybe ask the website that ran this story.

Don't be a coward. You shared it ........ own it.

No need to try and take a cheap shot by namecalling...you bet I was being facetious...don't understand why people choose to wear rose-colored glasses or blinders, don't they want to know what kind of person she was in real life?

...and like so many say, if you don't like what you see, then don't read it.
 
Good for you sticking to your guns!

Lots of folks in today's world buy into the disrespectful "gotcha" brand of commentary. Some even direct it to the recently departed.

Hey .... you were asked "why" you posted it and like it or not it's either cowardly or at least juvenile to "don't know" as you said. "Don't know" isn't an answer.
 
If you don't know why you posted it, perhaps you shouldn't be posting. But seeing as how you already did post but can't answer "why" directly, the post naturally becomes subject to wide speculation. Trolling comes to mind. Purely speculation, mind you, but, until some other explanation is provided, any speculation can't truly be considered false. So, trolling it is.

Focusing on only the imperfections of a person's life upon their passing says a lot about the person doing the focusing, and lets us know how that person is in real life. Thanks for enlightening us.
 
wolfsong said:
Focusing on only the imperfections of a person's life upon their passing says a lot about the person doing the focusing, and lets us know how that person is in real life. Thanks for enlightening us.

Yes, indeed!

:roll:
 
Wow, okay...you guys win. Now I'm a 'classless juvenile cowardly troll'. :roll: Sounds like a bunch of whiny namecalling Liberals who cry foul when someone tells them the truth.

Have it your own way...Yes, she was as pure as the driven snow.
 
wolfsong said:
If you don't know why you posted it, perhaps you shouldn't be posting. But seeing as how you already did post but can't answer "why" directly, the post naturally becomes subject to wide speculation. Trolling comes to mind. Purely speculation, mind you, but, until some other explanation is provided, any speculation can't truly be considered false. So, trolling it is.

Focusing on only the imperfections of a person's life upon their passing says a lot about the person doing the focusing, and lets us know how that person is in real life. Thanks for enlightening us.

Oh, I know exactly why I posted it, to bring you the truth about her, which you don't want to hear. Like a little kid 'NANANANA, I'M NOT LISTENING!'....I lived in Detroit and heard far, far worse about that woman. Oh, and you don't know JS about me in real life, so don't claim to 'get all that' from one post.
 
Doc, does it make you feel better to smear all that mud?

Do you see yourself as our spiritual adviser, making sure we are all aware that most have feet of clay to some extent?

Are you so pure and clean that you can besmirch someone's reputation without any qualms of self doubt?

Or are you just a bitter crank?

Just asking.

:roll:
 
Hey kid! Get off Grandpa's computer and get Doc back on line. Tell him you're embarrassing him.
 
Ale-8(1) said:
Or are you just a bitter crank?

Hi,

When I first posted the news of Ms. Franklin's passing, I considered putting in a note to the effect of "If you can't say something nice, say nothing" based on experience here that many people have their one preferred musical genre, and firmly believe every other one is pure cr(ud), and worse than that, everyone who performs those offending types of music is some kind of spawn of the devil.

But I thought, "No, I was taught not to speak ill of the dead who can't defend themselves" and I know others here were taught the same way. So giving ALL of our members the benefit of the doubt about having some manners, I left out such a disclaimer. That was my fault, and my mistake, for which I apologize. As I suspected would probably happen but wanted to hope wouldn't be the case, someone just had to be a bumwipe about a singer many of us liked for her talent and the quality of her work regardless of the foibles in her personal life.

Looking back at Doc Holliday's posts, there are quite a few which point to the idea his life hasn't been a great success compared to many, and he somehow seems to think putting them down for making something of themselves makes him a better person. So I'll say this to your face, Doc: that seems to be the case in this thread, and no amount of your feeble backpedaling is going to change my mind. I think anyone who does that is wrong and brings nothing to the forum in so doing. You don't have to agree with a single word I say, and my feelings won't even come close to being hurt if you add my name to your "foe" list. Or you decide to go elsewhere to a venue where people can "handle the truth" as you suggest we can't here.

That being said, my vote is an "x" beside "bitter crank."

Rick C
 
Rick Courtright said:
Ale-8(1) said:
Or are you just a bitter crank?

Hi,

When I first posted the news of Ms. Franklin's passing, I considered putting in a note to the effect of "If you can't say something nice, say nothing" based on experience here that many people have their one preferred musical genre, and firmly believe every other one is pure cr(ud), and worse than that, everyone who performs those offending types of music is some kind of spawn of the devil.

But I thought, "No, I was taught not to speak ill of the dead who can't defend themselves" and I know others here were taught the same way. So giving ALL of our members the benefit of the doubt about having some manners, I left out such a disclaimer. That was my fault, and my mistake, for which I apologize. As I suspected would probably happen but wanted to hope wouldn't be the case, someone just had to be a bumwipe about a singer many of us liked for her talent and the quality of her work regardless of the foibles in her personal life.

Looking back at Doc Holliday's posts, there are quite a few which point to the idea his life hasn't been a great success compared to many, and he somehow seems to think putting them down for making something of themselves makes him a better person. So I'll say this to your face, Doc: that seems to be the case in this thread, and no amount of your feeble backpedaling is going to change my mind. I think anyone who does that is wrong and brings nothing to the forum in so doing. You don't have to agree with a single word I say, and my feelings won't even come close to being hurt if you add my name to your "foe" list. Or you decide to go elsewhere to a venue where people can "handle the truth" as you suggest we can't here.

That being said, my vote is an "x" beside "bitter crank."

Rick C

Blah blah blah...you don't know JS. Keep rambling, though.

Whaa, whaa, whaa....do you want your mommy now? Were you also raised to 'judge not, lest ye be judged', too, or did you forget that part? I simply posted the truth about the woman, so others can see the whole picture about her, and you lose your mind over it.

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