I feel the same way. They are very nice looking. Clean lines and it flows with the longer cylinder. I like the two toned version.
Can anyone explain to me, in a self defense situation, what will a 410 shotgun shell do that a 45 Colt 255 grain won't do. Now in the case of poisonous snakes, one must be within 10 feet for a load of birdshot to be effective in my testing experience.
Absolutely nothing.
Having owned a T/C pistol with a 10" 45/410 barrel, I can attest to the dramatic affect that rifling has on shot. Basically a donut shaped pattern of about 2' diameter @ 10' distance, without a single hole within 6" of the target area.
To make these revolvers somewhat viable they have to detune the lands so that there isn't as much effect on the wad and load from the 410 shotshell. In turn that may result in insufficient spin on a 45 Caliber bullet to stabilize and combine that with a 1" leap to the lands and it is what it is.....pure marketing genius
what he said! My normal woods carry is one of my Rugers in .45 Colt, with alternating hog killer and snake shot rounds. During “snake season” (before the first freeze) at my MILs place in GA the next round up is CCI snake shot. Otherwise it’s .45 Colt with 255 grain hard cast good for hogs, coyotes, gators, etc. I’ve only had to shoot three snakes over the last ~20 years: two big Eastern Diamondbacks and a cottonmouth. The CCI loads are “okay” but the second round finished the job in each case. I’ve been wanting to buy some of the new Doubletap rounds and try them out.
Can’t speak to the governor but both the judge and public defender shoot .45 colt as well as any other gun I’ve shot them in.
A long-time buddy of mine (since high school) that now lives over on the Space Coast recently bought a nice tract of land in central/east Texas. He and his Texas born wife will be moving out there once their house is finished. He sent me a picture the other morning of the new stainless Governor he calls his Texas snake gun. I had to explain why these guns don’t do either shot or bullets very well. Once I explained why he finally understood.
The reaffirm my beliefs, I went to the range yesterday and shot the Vaquero 5 1/2" in 45 Colt 255 gr LSWC 7.5 gr of Western True Blue. The gun & Load shot to point of aim @15 yards. A comfortable, accurate 850 fps load. Now I am torn between taking the Vaquero or the Kimber Ultra Compact in 45 ACP to New Mexico as a personal sidearm in November for an elk hunt.Absolutely nothing.
Having owned a T/C pistol with a 10" 45/410 barrel, I can attest to the dramatic affect that rifling has on shot. Basically a donut shaped pattern of about 2' diameter @ 10' distance, without a single hole within 6" of the target area.
To make these revolvers somewhat viable they have to detune the lands so that there isn't as much effect on the wad and load from the 410 shotshell. In turn that may result in insufficient spin on a 45 Caliber bullet to stabilize and combine that with a 1" leap to the lands and it is what it is.....pure marketing genius
One of the funniest/scariest scenes I ever saw hapened in Calif. I was stationed as the Guard Chief on a Naval Weapons Station in Orange County. We had three pistol ranges on station and let the local PD's use them. The 1stSgt. and I pulled up to the range and we saw 3-4 officers shooting their Beretta 92's into the ground almost at their feet. They were shooting at a snake and emptied all their pistols. They only hit it about 3 or 4 times and it was still alive. The 1stSgt. finished with a head shot from his M1911A1. Those cops were hopping and dancing around trying to kell the big bad snake, it is a wonder they did not hit themselves.
You HAVE to take the Vaquero!! I bought my first big bore single action (a 7-1/2” Super Blackhawk Bisley in .44 Magnum) when I found out I was going to Fort Carson CO after my third tour in Korea, with the intent to carry it as backup when bow hunting out in the mountains.
