any ruger
Blackhawk
If all the manufactures are at top production and the stores are empty where is everything going?
Powder
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Powder. It's like the question: Where's all the ammo? The manufacturers say--We're running 24/7! I would then say: Did I stutter? Where-is-all-the-ammo?
I really do wonder what the distributors would say.
I really do wonder what the distributors would say.
57springer
Buckeye
Yeah , I am starting to get a little suspicious ....................
daveg.inkc
Hunter
Midwayusa has 9mm listed for sale. Still no powders.
"We have met the enemy, and they is us", Pogo. Fear, panic buying, hoarding of components is the major cause of the problem. Add the virus and everything slowed down including the powder/component manufacturers' supply of raw materials...
But look at any reloading forum and you will see dozens of posts about the shortage and all the conspiracy theories...
But look at any reloading forum and you will see dozens of posts about the shortage and all the conspiracy theories...
NikA
Hunter
People that are underemployed as a result of the pandemic and think they can make a buck.
Plenty of powder available on our local boards of you're willing to pay $30-80 per lb.
Plenty of powder available on our local boards of you're willing to pay $30-80 per lb.
NikA
Hunter
any ruger said:
OH, an unreasonable conspiracy as an answer? How original!
any ruger said:
Underemployed doesn't mean unemployed or broke. And the government keeps handing out money to folks that would rather not work due to the pandemic.
There is powder for sale on GunBroker. Going at crazy crazy prices.
jgt
Buckeye
Some call it hoarding, some call it panic buying, some call it law of supply and demand. It is people buying all they can when they see it for sale. Some of us have been stocking up, because we've been there, done that. Others got caught short.
I got caught short on .45 acp of all things, because I have been a 44 revolver guy all my life and was just learning the whole bottom feeder thing when this came about. I have manage to piece together a set of dies from three different manufacturers, but a person with less experience would probably not known what to do in that situation. I can do the same for bullet making if need be, so I am not in panic mode.
I got caught short on .45 acp of all things, because I have been a 44 revolver guy all my life and was just learning the whole bottom feeder thing when this came about. I have manage to piece together a set of dies from three different manufacturers, but a person with less experience would probably not known what to do in that situation. I can do the same for bullet making if need be, so I am not in panic mode.
I can't answer the question: where's all the ammo(powder/primers/bullets/whatever) but I have heard from a friend of Grouch Attack's whose Son works in a large ammo factory that even with some employees working as much as company policy will allow (I heard 60 hours per week)-- due to all the COVID restrictions, they simply can't even reach normal full time production. The number of workers is reduced, the backup from one production line to another is increased, cleanup between shift changes, no overlap of incoming/outgoing workers, all adds up to a significant reduction in total output. I'm not making excuses but just relating what seems to be logical reasons.
One guy I talked to last week commented that he and a couple of his friends had driven all day hitting every gun shop, farm store, Walmart, and any other store that might possibly have any sort of ammo. They bought any/all ammo that was available if it fit any gun they owned. Another guy had visited his Brother in Oklahoma stopping everywhere he might find ammo making a 6 hour trip take 2 days. Now, I don't have anything against shooting of any type BUT this sort of thing certainly makes it difficult for the local buyers.
There's ammo in the system. I got an email a few days ago that a case of .224 Valkyrie ammo I'd had on back order for a long time was now available. I also got a notice last night that another internet ammo seller had a supply of .224 Valkyrie ammo ready to ship. Both were Federal brand and what I received appeared to be new production not old stock back of the warehouse stuff. Another place has changed from simply OUT OF STOCK to NOTIFY WHEN AVAILABLE which would indicate that they have some expectation of delivery within reason.
One guy I talked to last week commented that he and a couple of his friends had driven all day hitting every gun shop, farm store, Walmart, and any other store that might possibly have any sort of ammo. They bought any/all ammo that was available if it fit any gun they owned. Another guy had visited his Brother in Oklahoma stopping everywhere he might find ammo making a 6 hour trip take 2 days. Now, I don't have anything against shooting of any type BUT this sort of thing certainly makes it difficult for the local buyers.
There's ammo in the system. I got an email a few days ago that a case of .224 Valkyrie ammo I'd had on back order for a long time was now available. I also got a notice last night that another internet ammo seller had a supply of .224 Valkyrie ammo ready to ship. Both were Federal brand and what I received appeared to be new production not old stock back of the warehouse stuff. Another place has changed from simply OUT OF STOCK to NOTIFY WHEN AVAILABLE which would indicate that they have some expectation of delivery within reason.
Mobuck said:
Call me a skeptic, but I’m guessing those guys bought nearly everything they ran into, whether it fit their guns, or not.
Members here have openly admitted to doing the same, planning to use unwanted items for “trade bait...”
Biggfoot44
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I've been finding more powder than anything else , often at close to normal prices . It's Primers that are unobtanium , except at redicous scalper prices . Not just sort of expensive , but insane , ie $30 per Hundred .
Uncle Howie said:
Yep . . . right back to the Pogo quote. I've seen it happen. :roll:
I suspect some distributors of doing a bit of scalping, hoarding, rationing, gambling with their inventory.
I know the net is fast, but have seen entire websites go to an Out of Stock status in the blink of an eye when something happens that could start panic.
Boss say's to sales; don't sell ammopowderprimerbullets today, we'll get double for it next month.
I know the net is fast, but have seen entire websites go to an Out of Stock status in the blink of an eye when something happens that could start panic.
Boss say's to sales; don't sell ammopowderprimerbullets today, we'll get double for it next month.
The Preacher
Blackhawk
Powder? Primers? Bullets? Ammo? Firearms? With the current administration in play many folk are thinking "Winter is coming".... And in my not so humble opinion it is. Thank you to those who put this administration into office!
The Preacher
The Preacher
Rick Courtright
Hawkeye
Ale-8(1) said:
Hi,
Walt Kelly was a wise man. I can't say for sure, but would suspect he might suggest we get out our calculators and see if they hold an answer.
For example: I saw a figure about total US small arms cartridge production recently, from about 2019. The number I saw was about 7 BILLION rounds per year. That seems like a bunch of ammo, doesn't it?
Well, maybe, or maybe not. At the same time I think it's fair to say we have (at least) 100 MILLION gun owners in this country. So let's divide that many owners into that many rounds to see what each of us might get. My calculator says each of us has 70 rounds earmarked for us, for an entire year. When's the last time most any of us bought just 70 rounds and told ourselves that was a year's supply? See where this is going?
Rick C
It may depend on who you know.
I’m aware of a little hole-in-the-wall shop out in the sticks run by two old fellows that is getting regular shipments of powder, brass, ammunition,...and primers. HOW they’re getting it I can’t answer. But they have a connection somewhere.
I’m aware of a little hole-in-the-wall shop out in the sticks run by two old fellows that is getting regular shipments of powder, brass, ammunition,...and primers. HOW they’re getting it I can’t answer. But they have a connection somewhere.
UmpquaCharlie
Buckeye
H 110 is going for an advertised 100. a pound on gunbroker. Not sure f there has been any buyers
