Petition Ruger

[Fox Mike]

Some members of the Ruger Owners and Collectors Society proposed a petition to Ruger to give a bit more useful information on their "letters". I said I would pass the information along here and see what interest might be given. The link to the Original Post at the ROCS site is: https://www.rugersociety.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1386

 

[RSIno1]

Your only hope is to present it as a revenue stream for them. I read in the link that their lawyers shut down the idea of more details a couple years ago. Including copies of Colt and/or S&W letters and cost to their bean counters may sway them to develop a program. I only have pedestrian Rugers so their serial number list on the website is good enough for me.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Personally, I'd just like to be able to receive a letter like we used to receive in days past giving the ship date and "shipped configuration" (model number) and perhaps any readily-available info such as "with brass grip frame", although a proper model number indicates that in most cases. If we could count on these bits of information being accurate and the letters signed by a Ruger employee, I'd continue to go with a minimal fee, even if ten bucks isn't it.

I'd also like to see the availability of the detailed letter suggested on the ROCS site at whatever fee seems proper to those willing to pay for such. I'd not need such documentation, but I know many of us do and I'd like to see them have access to such.

So . . . I'd support a two-tier arrangement as described. I don't know if this would be workable or acceptable, but there are many of us out here who would like to see it be a possibility.

JMHO

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[contender]

I (along with others,) have discussed this with the folks at Ruger in the past. Their records,,, are in boxes,,, NOT in any real order, stacked in a few rooms, floor to ceiling. Getting details isn't easy,,, and it would cost them a lot of time to have a person search for a certain firearm in a mountain of boxes & papers. A $10 letter won't even begin to cover the costs.
It took John Dougan weeks of working to get some of the data he got when he was researching his book. He was NOT getting paid for it either.
While we live in a world where computers allow data almost instantly, we THINK we should be able to get all this. Well, the truth is,, before that data can be that easy to retrieve, it has to be entered into a database into a computer somewhere.
I agree it would be nice if we could get more info,,, but I also understand reality. Maybe someday, somebody who is computer savvy, AND who can get access to these records can & will build the database we desire.

 

[Big Old Boy]

I don't think RUGER would ever pay someone to do this.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

If no one tries, it won't happen.

If ROCS (or the RCA?) can't get Ruger's attention with a well-done appeal, I seriously doubt a favorable response.

The worst Ruger can do is say "NO".

 

[Fox Mike]

Just wondering if the good folks at Ruger would consider allowing a 'non-employee' to access the records and attempt to organize them and put them into a computer data base? I am good at organization of data and would 'donate' some time to the project if allowed. We can only ask. I personally do not know any of the higher-ups at Ruger but many here do. They could make a request. Just a thought.

 

[cas6969]

Doesn't seem like current Ruger cares too much about the past. Dropping the Sturm proved that.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Doesn't seem like current Ruger cares too much about the past. Dropping the Sturm proved that.

Ya got that right. Still haven't figured that out.

:roll:

 

[rugerguy]

alas, will NOT happen, those hopes and dreams left, when Steve V and Nancy Padua left, it was close,BUT.....NO ONE at Ruger with the work ethic and diligence that Marty Huber, or Roy Jinks gave to their 'makers' ( Colt and S&W).................and it would be easier today with computers/scanners, etc., and use "interns".................hey boys and girls it is NOT rocket science 8) :roll:

 

[Kevin]

I'd pay more for a well detailed letter. I don't have any nice collectibles but it would be interesting since guns don't talk.

Plus to say, it would definitely help with resale. You could probably get the price of the letter back if and when you go to sell a gun. Probably that is.

 

[T.A. WORKMAN]

As rugerguy alluded to,,,,,No Historian = No change in letters!

At least S&W & Colt can see the importance of a letter for a firearm's history as future provenance for its customers.
JMHO
Terry

 

[powder smoke]

I'd go with a different approach than a petition! A petition sends the wrong message.
Yes consumers can ask a business for information a petition to me seems like an independent
organization trying to strong arm their will on a private enterprise. Maybe a better approach
would be for the organization to offer assistance with getting records on a digital format
and go from there. Trying to force your will on them may just shut the whole thing down.
JMO. ps

 

[Ale-8(1)]

PS, that approach has been tried. See contender's post above.

 

[Enigma]

Perhaps the Ruger Owners and Collectors Society could volunteer to in effect become Ruger's historian - organize and digitize the existing records, compile future records, and issue historical letters. It couldn't hurt to ask.