P90 hollow pointless?

[Chickenwang]

Here's an issue I want to pick your brains on fellas.

http://www.arkansascarry.com/component/kunena/14-hand-gunners/15038-i-need-a-pair-of-pennies.html#15047

 

[tech4064]

I’ve never had the problem described in that post. My P90 has always put any bullet of comparable weight in virtually the same place, no matter if they were HP or FMJ. In fact, that has been the case with every gun I have owned

 

[P90]

My P90 shoots Hollow Points accurately and reliably. Wonder what kind of Hollow points he was shooting. If the Bullets weren't uniform in shape, I guess it could cause that problem.

 

[btrumanj]

Could possibly be the ammo he was using but I'm skeptical of his whole story.
Also FWIW, the P series pistols including the P 90 aren't that heavy, just a bit bulky. :)
BT

 

[P90]

I've carried my P90 over 5 years every day, and there's no way I would trade it for anything smaller. I can hit what I shoot at, and enjoy shooting it. I haven't found a small light pistol that I can do that with.

 

[Al James]

Could possibly be the ammo he was using but I'm skeptical of his whole story.
Also FWIW, the P series pistols including the P 90 aren't that heavy, just a bit bulky. :)
BT

I like the 8 shots at 7 yards and the deer didn't move part. Quite the adventure. Where are all of these deaf deer when I'm hunting through the dry fall leaves?

 

[Colonel Daddy]

Like you, Bro Baker, the story just doesn't sound quite right to me.
On the range, similar bullet weights print similarly on target from my KP90DC.
One thing I don't quite get about this persons story. Seems he has never before practiced with his carry ammo. After practice, I always like to shoot one mag full of my carry ammo, just to be sure.
Perhaps ones physical build has a lot to do with the percievd weight/bulk of a P90, but I've carried one for quite a while with no notice of weight or bulk.
However, here lately I've began to notice some slight pressure on my hip while sitting. A new holster will arrive soon and hopefully that will cure the little problem.

 

[khutch]

I like the 8 shots at 7 yards and the deer didn't move part.

Yep, it's been a long time since I was a boy and hunted but the deer in Wisconsin back then certainly would not give you 8 shots at them. I'd take the whole story with dump truck load of salt but the advice to practice some with you defense ammo is good no matter how improbable the story.

Ken

 

[Mike J]

I agree with ya'all this story sounds like BS. I don't own & have never shot a P90 but even I know that different bullet weights will have different POI. If you are using carry ammunition that is loaded much hotter than you practice ammo that will make a difference too. I don't believe this had anything to do with hollowpoints. It actually seems more like a software problem than a hardware one to me.

 

[Al James]

"I eased the pistol up and double tapped"

Now thats confidence! This story reminds me of John Kerry's election year hunting stories.

 

[Chickenwang]

However, here lately I've began to notice some slight pressure on my hip while sitting. A new holster will arrive soon and hopefully that will cure the little problem.

Colonel, them oatmeal cream pies are good for that. ...Sittin' 'round here blaming your holster for sweet little Debbie's... downside.

Thanks a bunch gang. I was suspect but I wasn't there.

 

[9isFine]

I declare shenanigans....

Double tap with a P-series?! Nine shots at a doe that doesnt run? Come on..
Most certainly shenanigans.

 

[Colonel Daddy]

Hey 'wang! Haven't had one of them Little Debbie Oatmeal Cream Pies in a long time. Gotta ride in to town tomorrow and just might pick up a box at the general store! :D

No hijack intended!

 

[Donaldjr1969]

The only ammo that has not fed 100% reliably were 180g LSWC cast loads with a sharp edged meplat. Even then, those bullets were a bit on the soft side. When using a LSWC with a radiused meplat, I still get 100% feeding. Any hollowpoint I feed my P90, all the way from the flying ashtrays of the Speers and Golden Sabers to the narrower ones such as Ranger T-series have been flawless.

As others say, sounds like Bravo Sierra to me...

Chickenwang, your avatar is making me hungry for wings!!! :P

 

[stoney7713]

I lean towards the story being stretched a bit, maybe he didn't fire 8 shots, and it may have been the ammo, or the operator. With any factor I will share my story.

Embarrassing story to me, but many years ago I went deer hunting with my Uncle for the first time, I carried a single shot 10ga, he carried the 12ga pump. I shot both of them before, target practicing, I had no problems handling either one.

As the story goes, he takes me to my tree, I clear the leaves and twigs away and stand next to it. He points out the trails and tells me to watch the hilltop, that's where they wil come from. He moves off through the woods and sets up. No more then 15 mins goes by and sure enough here comes the deer. I wait for them to move in closer, one breaks off from the group and comes to withen 10 yards of me.

Raised and ready, nose running from the cold, trying not to make a noise, shaking ,thinking, remembering, and contimplating my first kill, I finally take sight and fire.

Nothing, the deer didn't move, other then raising it's head, as quickly as I could I grabbed another slug and reloaded, the deer takes a few steps and again, aim, breathe, aim, fire.

The deer jumps and moves a few yards. I thought to myself, did I hit it? No, maybe not, again I decide to reload, by now I'm fumbling to get another shell out and into the gun, I drop it on the ground, all the time the deer just looking around, and starts walking back up the trail.

Finally reloaded, I wait for the deer to turn just a bit and sure enough I get another perfect chance, one final shot and....

The deer takes off after the third shot, I sit tight for a few and start looking for fur, blood, anything. My Uncle meets up with me and I tell him the story, of course he laughs, 3 shots with a single shot shotgun and all were a miss. He told me I proabably could of clubbed the thing to death eaiser.

What can I say, it was my first time, she gave me three perfect broadside shots, and I blew it.

Maybe the deer was deaf, obviously blind to the boy in the bright orange vest with a shotgun, reloading time after time.

But it will be a time I will never forget, my Uncle passed away last year and we had some great times shooting, hunting, fishing, and the all the stories, jokes, and laughs that go with them.