New sub. for ivory

[Ugly Hombre]

http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/productCategory.php?Resin-Ivory-trade-SAA-Revolver-Grip-Panels-118

Over on another gun board they are talking about this new ivory like material for grips.

Thought I would post it here for the interested.

Looks pretty good to me- would like to see some finished S/A revolver grips made up with it.

 

[Scout943]

Want to see some grips made of it .

 

[Paul B]

Doesn't look too bad but I think I'd be more inclined to buy if they gave it a more yellowish stained antique ivory look. Look at the color on John Wayne's sixgun sometime. Something close to that just might sell a little better.
I have an old Ivory cane handle that belonged to my Great Grandfather and it's not a pure white. Neither are the forearm tip and grip cap on my custom Oberndorf Mauser from the 1930's. That's the color I'd like to see. Any thoughts?
Paul B.

 

[caryc]

I just ordered a set of the +S panels.

 

[caryc]

Doesn't look too bad but I think I'd be more inclined to buy if they gave it a more yellowish stained antique ivory look. Look at the color on John Wayne's sixgun sometime. Something close to that just might sell a little better.
I have an old Ivory cane handle that belonged to my Great Grandfather and it's not a pure white. Neither are the forearm tip and grip cap on my custom Oberndorf Mauser from the 1930's. That's the color I'd like to see. Any thoughts?
Paul B.

You may like the color of John Wayne's grips but they weren't ivory. They were Catalin or maybe it's Catalyn.

 

[Jeepnik]

Take a look at the color of this knife handle. It isn't ivory. Instead it is a micarta. I would love to have a set of grips made from this material. But, sadly, the knife maker used all he had before he passed.

I've looked on line and haven't found a micarta that has the same mellow tones.

 

[Odie808]

That looks like Old Westinghouse micarta.

 

[Ugly Hombre]

Don't know much about it- not sure if it will yellow with age or not.

Not sure if you can carve it- but it can be scrimmed.

Looks pretty good at first glance though.

 

[GP100]

Anybody notice where they cannot ship to?

From their website: We cannot ship to the United States of NY, NJ, HI and CA.

 

[Kevin]

I think they say cannot ship Fossil Mammoth Ivory to those states, there shouldn't be a problem shipping the imitation ivory anywhere.

I saved the link, I'd like to see how they look on some grips first as well. But it does sound good at least.

 

[contender]

Cary,, I'd be real interested in your opinion,,, as I'm sure many others will as well.

 

[CraigC]

Looks real promising.

On color, it would be nice if they had different shades of aging, like TruIvory did. Although I mainly have a thing for fresh new "white" ivory. Some just has more color in it.

 

[caryc]

Cary,, I'd be real interested in your opinion,,, as I'm sure many others will as well.

I just got an email from them. They said they will be closed until Sept. 8 so they can't ship until then. Not a very good start with these people. Especially since I paid for Priority shipping.

 

[pete44ru]

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FWIW:

I spoke with a fellow on another forum, who says he's been doing business with them for years, and that the owner has always delivered exactly what's offered.

Per the seller:

This material works just like real ivory with conventional tools and takes a high polish by buffing with white jewelers rouge on cloth or felt wheels.
One needs only sand with 400 grit wet/dry paper and then take it to a buffing wheel.
This material is also the best imitation ivory we have scrimshawed.
There is no squishiness when scrimshawing and there is no bleeding of the ink into unwanted areas as seen on other imitation ivories.
It works like ivory, polishes like ivory and scrims like ivory!



Here's a pic of the "S" grade on revolvers:

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[caryc]

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FWIW:

I spoke with a fellow on another forum, who says he's been doing business with them for years, and that the owner has always delivered exactly what's offered.

Per the seller:

This material works just like real ivory with conventional tools and takes a high polish by buffing with white jewelers rouge on cloth or felt wheels.
One needs only sand with 400 grit wet/dry paper and then take it to a buffing wheel.
This material is also the best imitation ivory we have scrimshawed.
There is no squishiness when scrimshawing and there is no bleeding of the ink into unwanted areas as seen on other imitation ivories.
It works like ivory, polishes like ivory and scrims like ivory!



Here's a pic of the "S" grade on revolvers:

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The only problem that I have with them is that they should have stated on their website when I ordered that there would be that delay.

 

[Ugly Hombre]

They should at least refund you the shipping costs- imo

 

[GP100]

I think they say cannot ship Fossil Mammoth Ivory to those states, there shouldn't be a problem shipping the imitation ivory anywhere.

I saved the link, I'd like to see how they look on some grips first as well. But it does sound good at least.

I agree there shouldn't be an issue.. But if it's not real, then why is it that they can't ship to those states? What is it about those states that they don't like this stuff? It's not real for crying out loud.. So why does NY, HI, and CA have an issue with it?

I just don't get it.. Can someone please explain this to me? It's fake Ivory.. So, I honestly don't get it.. :?

 

[caryc]

I think they say cannot ship Fossil Mammoth Ivory to those states, there shouldn't be a problem shipping the imitation ivory anywhere.

I saved the link, I'd like to see how they look on some grips first as well. But it does sound good at least.

I agree there shouldn't be an issue.. But if it's not real, then why is it that they can't ship to those states? What is it about those states that they don't like this stuff? It's not real for crying out loud.. So why does NY, HI, and CA have an issue with it?

I just don't get it.. Can someone please explain this to me? It's fake Ivory.. So, I honestly don't get it.. :?

Go back to their site and look again, this is what it says.

"Fossil Mammoth Ivory can sell and ship anywhere on the planet except to the US states of NY, NJ, HI and CA."

Get it now?

 

[Poco Oso]

Don't know much about it- not sure if it will yellow with age or not.

Not sure if you can carve it- but it can be scrimmed.

Looks pretty good at first glance though.

"Young man afraid of his horses" did a build thread, in the rugersmithing forum, where he aged a pair of imitation ivory gtips with coffee. They turned out very good. That would likely work on this stuff too. If they continued to age themselves, you could end up with a real interesting color.

ETA:
The pictures on the above mentioned thread no longer appear. That's a shame. It was an exceptional build.

 

[caryc]

Don't know much about it- not sure if it will yellow with age or not.

Not sure if you can carve it- but it can be scrimmed.

Looks pretty good at first glance though.

"Young man afraid of his horses" did a build thread, in the rugersmithing forum, where he aged a pair of imitation ivory gtips with coffee. They turned out very good. That would likely work on this stuff too. If they continued to age themselves, you could end up with a real interesting color.

ETA:
The pictures on the above mentioned thread no longer appear. That's a shame. It was an exceptional build.

I think that the only way you could color (not age) a pair of simulated ivory grips would be to sand the surface and leave it that way. That would give the coffee something to soak into. The trouble is that it's only on the surface. If you then tried to polish the grips, the color would com off. It's the same if you scrimschaw a pair of simulated ivory grips, the ink will stay in the scratches but will wipe right off the smooth polished surface.

That's exactly what happened when I did this experimental faux Navajo horse hair pair of grips.

 

[caryc]

I received the gun grip blank set. Photos below. It's more of a yellow color than white. I tried to use the macro setting on my camera to show the grain in the stuff but, the macro setting has a hard time trying to focus on anything that light in color.

I've never seen a real pair of ivory grips close up so I really can't compare the two. As best as I could get in the photos, the new stuff does have a vertical grain pattern in it. And the photo of the bottom shows a pattern like ivory as well. It's really more pronounced than the pics are able to show. The color in the pics shows the true color of the blanks. If I hold a blank up to the pic they are a good match.

I did a quick polish on one face and both ends and it polishes nicely. It's also heavy stuff. Wish I could show better pics. I really don't know when I'll get around to making a set of grips from it. It will be when winter finally gets here and the days start getting cool.

 

[Kevin]

We can't wait to see them Cary. And if you are thinking of selling the set you eventually make, I don't have any shame in being the first to ask.

 

[caryc]

We can't wait to see them Cary. And if you are thinking of selling the set you eventually make, I don't have any shame in being the first to ask.

Here's a little better pic of the end grain in the stuff. I was able to get the macro lens to focus on the dime so the grain came out a little better.

 

[dougader]

That end grain looks pretty cool. Can't wait to see how the grips turn out.