new gp. what bullets?

rickdavis81

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The wife got me a new 4.2" GP100 stainless for Christmas. I'm trying to decide what to shoot out of it. I'd prefer my practice rounds to have same poi, or as close as possible, as defensive rounds so I'm just planning on 357's out of it. I was thinking some Missouri bullet cast hytek coated 158's or 180's. What's everyones preference?
Also anyone have holster preference? I prefer leather pancake holsters. Probably won't be carrying it concealed just around the farm.
 
I haven't tried 180 grain in my 357 but I definitely like 158 better than 125. Also I haven't tried Missouri Bullets but have heard good things about them. I've been ordering bullet lately from SNS Casting. They have the poly coated bullets and their prices are pretty reasonable.

I have also heard in various places it is important to practice with the same ammo as used for defensive ammo. At least a box or two, to get a feel for it.
 
It sounds like you reload. .38/.357 magnum sights are regulated for the 158 gr bullet. I use 158 gr LSWC over 13.5 grs 2400 as an all around plinker/self defense round on the farm. Simply Rugged has a good leather Sourdough holster. Simply Rugged.com.
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Yes I do reload. I'll look into the simply rugged's. I tried to order a Don Hume 721ot today but they're out of stock.
 
Most self-defense ammo use jacketed bullets. Any 158gr jacketed bullets should work good for practice. I use a lot of XTP's in 357 mag guns both rifle and revolvers.
 
On the farm, self defense is usually from a critter. Coyotes, feral dogs, feral pigs, and even large livestock. I have a goat, that weighs almost as much as me with a 3 foot spread of horns. He challenges me periodically. My Bulldog .44 spcl loaded with LSWC's is comforting, when he gets ornery.
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The best way to get both your SD ammo & practice ammo to shoot to the same POI is to try a sampling of different bullets. You can look at your chosen ammo for SD & use the weight of that bullet & it's design as a starting point. If you have a crono, then you can try & duplicate the velocity to where you get close on your first try. Missouri Bullets has a good reputation, so buy from them with confidence.
Holsters,,, such a wide & varied selection. You need to figure out how you prefer to carry & then decide what material you prefer & go from there. Holsters are a very personal item & need to be decided upon by the wearer.
 
I prefer leather pancake holsters. I already have a don hume 721 ot for my edc glock 19, was kinda disappointed they were out of stock. I'm kinda leaning towards trying some 158gr bullets. Maybe some swc from mb for target ammo.
 
Personally, I would think a 158 gr. PCed LSWC driven to .357 Magnum speeds would be a perfect S.D. load. Even if slower, say at .38 Special +P speeds, I would not feel "under gunned", and basically, that's what I do; use a 160 gr. Lachmiller design cast LSWC over a medium to low magnum load of Unique, Universal or one of my other favorite powders for all around shooting (S.D. "plinking, hunting, etc.).
 
Loads:

4gr reddot under a 150gr wadcutter 850fps
12gr 2400 under a NOE 358429 weighs 177gr 1050fps

Firearm:

4" Stainless GP100

These are very close at 25-30 yds but as the distance grows so does the different poi, the heavier,faster going higher & the lighter,slower lower as it runs out of gas.

Now why, at the muzzle there`s only 200fps difference & the boolits are basically the same shape, the heavier giving more recoil ,but spending less time in the muzzle as it`s rising from recoil, the liter boolit with less recoil, but spends more time in the barrel as it`s rising from recoil. this explains the short distance .

On longer distance (75 yds) the shape comes into play as well as weight , the wadcutter being flat & liter will be shed of it`s kenetic energy from drag faster than the heavier semiwadcutter, plus the recoil thing is magnified at longer yardage.

short answer , you`ll get close , but different loads /boolits will never group the same at 2 distances.

I hunt with my 6" GP & I use the 2400 load by putting the front site level with the rear ,then placing the front site at the bottom of the chest cavity & let recoil & that tuff semiwadcutter do the rest.

When I use the 4"GP I use the same technique but I limit my shots to 50 yds or so, but the 4" is mainly used for back up or if a deer is walkin up on the rite side of me (I just cannot shoot a long gun from the left shoulder) the distance is cut because the boolits hit higher from the 4" than the 6"

I hope this gives some insight to what you wanna do & a chronograph will help more than I can tell ya.

Stay Safe !!

GP
 
I use 158gr Keith style SWC for practice, 158gr XTP for business. Load both to 1250fps with AA #9 in 4" GP100,

not enough leading to worry about, usually put through a cylinder of jacketed for every 3-4 cylinders of lead.
 
Don't rule out 140 grain bullets. The XTP in 140 grain is one of the most accurate bullets I've fired from my 6" GP. I've benched it with a scope and 50 yard groups are under an inch.

If going cast, ~158 is never a bad choice. My GP shoots my hand-cast 160 grain plain-base RNFP bullets nearly as good as the XTPs.
 

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