Saw over the News on TV that Portland has had 147 shooting death's this year, Course the news on TV is most likely a big fat LIE. Times in the USA is very stressful but if people have to kill one another why don't they go after the one's that is causing the stress, not one another?
MURDER'S IN Oregon
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https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/81203
Looks like 273 shootings thru March.
Looks like 273 shootings thru March.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
Compare that to Chicago YTD (935 shootings, 180 died)
Oregon population (2019) 4.2 million. Chicago population (2019) 2.7 million.
That places Chicago population at 62% of the state of Oregon.
You do the math.
Oregon population (2019) 4.2 million. Chicago population (2019) 2.7 million.
That places Chicago population at 62% of the state of Oregon.
You do the math.
contender
Ruger Guru
Irregardless of the numbers,, one thing is blatantly obvious. There is a move to defund or disband all LEO by a faction of people. Late last night I had a program on TV discussing this very subject.
They used Minneapolis, LA, New York & a few other large cities where LEO budgets were severely cut. And NOW,,, violet crime AND shootings have jumped dramatically.
Throw in the fact that these very same LEO departments are losing officers due to retirement, or whatever, and are NOT up to the numbers needed to enforce the laws or investigate crime, and one commentator said; "people are committing crime because they know nobody is going to stop them."
One group of people have filed a lawsuit against a PD to INCREASE the force. They say that the PD has violated the charter or whatever by not having the numbers of LEO as mandated. The head of that lawsuit is a black gentleman.
Simple points being; Stop law enforcement & punishment, and then crime will increase.
Locally, Asheville NC cut the City PD budget & "re-directed funds" to support "community projects to enhance the good will" etc. Add in that they have lost about 25%-30% of their officers in less than a year, and the violent crime has increased.
We had 3 shootings in Asheville, on a single day, just a few days ago. Of which, 2 people were killed. A 4th shooting the next day. None related, but all "shootings & violent crime."
They want to blame the GUNS,, not the criminals or their actions due to the lack of LEO enforcement.
And the LEO's on the street,, they are in a very bad position. If they do ANYTHING that even remotely appears to be "wrong" in the eyes of the public, they get accused, attacked, arrested, charged with crimes, etc. No wonder many are leaving Law Enforcement.
They used Minneapolis, LA, New York & a few other large cities where LEO budgets were severely cut. And NOW,,, violet crime AND shootings have jumped dramatically.
Throw in the fact that these very same LEO departments are losing officers due to retirement, or whatever, and are NOT up to the numbers needed to enforce the laws or investigate crime, and one commentator said; "people are committing crime because they know nobody is going to stop them."
One group of people have filed a lawsuit against a PD to INCREASE the force. They say that the PD has violated the charter or whatever by not having the numbers of LEO as mandated. The head of that lawsuit is a black gentleman.
Simple points being; Stop law enforcement & punishment, and then crime will increase.
Locally, Asheville NC cut the City PD budget & "re-directed funds" to support "community projects to enhance the good will" etc. Add in that they have lost about 25%-30% of their officers in less than a year, and the violent crime has increased.
We had 3 shootings in Asheville, on a single day, just a few days ago. Of which, 2 people were killed. A 4th shooting the next day. None related, but all "shootings & violent crime."
They want to blame the GUNS,, not the criminals or their actions due to the lack of LEO enforcement.
And the LEO's on the street,, they are in a very bad position. If they do ANYTHING that even remotely appears to be "wrong" in the eyes of the public, they get accused, attacked, arrested, charged with crimes, etc. No wonder many are leaving Law Enforcement.
Colonialgirl
Hawkeye
It appears that we are experiencing a PANDEMIC of stupidity and ignorance in this country whhich is resulting in higher crime rates in many cities and states. I would suggest a possible cure but it would get this posting deleted I think>
It seems that one of the sequelae that comes with Covid infection is Brain fog and stupidity. The gene therapy they call a vaccine will not cure it! Probably make it worse?
gramps
gramps
I'm hoping the opposite... but evolution is a strange thing that does not happen over night... and I actually have a whole different theory on that than both sides of the fence. (imagine that!)
I was in Portland 3 years ago and all I can say is look up the cities gun laws.... hard to figure out how all these shootings and killings can be happening. I had a pistol with me but could not carry it.. in fact when I locked it in the safe in my hotel room it had to be unloaded..... that was the only legal way I could have that gun while in Portland.
I was in Portland 3 years ago and all I can say is look up the cities gun laws.... hard to figure out how all these shootings and killings can be happening. I had a pistol with me but could not carry it.. in fact when I locked it in the safe in my hotel room it had to be unloaded..... that was the only legal way I could have that gun while in Portland.
Then compare that to Baltimore City, with a population of 593,490 and 95 murders as of 24 April. That is about 1 in every 6000 people are murdered there. https://chamspage.blogspot.com/Pat-inCO said:
I don't have the number of shootings.
Paul B
Hunter
chuck said:
Because the politicians responsible are too well protected. :roll:
Paul B.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
OK, HOW does that relate to the numbers in other cities/situations?Fox Mike said:
NYC TV news is fun to watch... (from afar)
It almost seems that on mondays, wednesdays and fridays the folks are wearing their 'defund the police' T-shirts; and on the other days they switch T-shirts 'STOP GUN VIOLENCE', and scream: "who is gonna do their jobs and stop this violence".
Go figure.....
It almost seems that on mondays, wednesdays and fridays the folks are wearing their 'defund the police' T-shirts; and on the other days they switch T-shirts 'STOP GUN VIOLENCE', and scream: "who is gonna do their jobs and stop this violence".
Go figure.....
Do a little math and you might see.Pat-inCO said:
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