Modern Guns do not shoot cast bullets !

[JStacy]

That was the line I got from a gun store owner when I commented about my 3" LCRX 's accuracy or the lack thereof !! Interesting point of view !
I happen to think the guy is full of beans , but what do I know I've only been shooting revolvers for 53 years or so.
On inspection the gun did seem to have very shallow rifling but it still should shoot cast bullets. Remember 22LR's have very shallow rifling and they darn sure shoot lead bullets. When I talked to a Ruger CSR he recommended I only shoot jacketed bullets in the gun. Going plinking with 25-35 cents per round just for the bullets does not make much sense.

 

[rob-c]

Well my wife and I shoot 158 grain hardcast in our 38 lcr snub’s and they are plenty accurate. Have you tried different weight bullets and powder and or charge weights? Our’s did not shoot point of aim with 125’s but the 158’s have been superb.

 

[loaded round]

I've been shooting revolvers for as long as you have and if I may, suggest your try a very hard cast bullet like those sold by Oregon Trail. Excellent cast bullets and fairly reasonable buying bulk. They used to mail out free 5 pack samples upon request, but not sure if they still do so.

 

[Snake45]

He was probably thinking of the Glock warning about not shooting cast bullets in their weird polygon rifling.

 

[5of7]

Measure the throats in the cylinder.
Hopefully the throats will be .001 to .002 larger than the groove diameter of the barrel. If so, bullets sized to the cylinder throat diameter, or even .001 over that will likely shoot just fine. 8)

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

Measure the throats in the cylinder.
Hopefully the throats will be .001 to .002 larger than the groove diameter of the barrel. If so, bullets sized to the cylinder throat diameter, or even .001 over that will likely shoot just fine. 8)

^^^+1 ^^^

 

[contender]

Just because he can get an FFL,, open a store,, sell, & handle firearms does NOT make him an expert.
As noted,,, cast can & will work in most guns quite well.
PS; I own a couple of LCR's and I'd NOT hesitate to use cast in mine.

 

[Big Old Boy]

My LCR in 327 mostly shoot cast.

 

[clintsfolly]

Few year ago was at the range shooting my Python with cast swc,s the “expert” next to me got going about my choice of bullet. By his thinking All cast lead was just junk bullets and should be dumped in the trash! What was he shooting S&W 10 with full wadcutters! So much for some “experts”!

 

[planetcat]

He was probably thinking of the Glock warning about not shooting cast bullets in their weird polygon rifling.

I was thinking the same thing. I certainly wouldn't apply that concept to all modern handguns.

 

[wildcatter]

I never shoot anything but what I cast in my revolvers and pistols, and expect them to shoot better than anything I've seen with jackets,, meaning less presure faster with the same weight in cast, and accurate to a fault, not needing barrel cleaning! That goes from 454 casual to 22LR and most in between. My newest is a GP-100 with a 125 grain WFN running nearly 1600 fps,, I just tried one powder, one primer, and one bullet but for such short testing, I think it qualifies as worthy ammo with 6 out of 7 in one ragged hole? Maybe I just don't know how good jackets can shoot,,,, :?

 

[WMB30]

Somehow that "wierd polygon rifling" loves my cast.

Bill

 

[Luckyducker]

My Taurus M66 357mag will shoot 38Spec with 158 grain cast bullets more accurate than most good shooters can hold it, and much better than with jacketed bullets. I also have an old FEG pistol chambered in 9mmMak and it is crazy accurate with cast bullets but just shoots OK with jacketed.

 

[JStacy]

Well I've got too many accurate revolvers to list so I will just say now I have one "less" accurate revolver. I usually use wheel weights with a pound of linotype added to a 10# pot and they shoot great out of most of my guns from 357 snub to 14" 30/30 Contender . I also cast for everything I own and WC that is some seriously good groups from your 327. My 4.2" Sp 101 327 shoots great also with the RCBS 95 CSW and 2400.
I just thought you guys would get a kick out of "no modern guns shoot cast bullets" BTW my friend has a LCR 38 and his is accurate to 50 yards , shooting like cast bullet loads with no leading. Surprised to Ruger CSR did bot offer a return to check for the CRX 3" but what the heck it's gone as well as the SP101 9MM.
My 3" 357 SP101 shoot some pretty warm 158 CSW loads quite well so it will serve for social occasions and poisonous snake encounters.
Lucky I have a couple of Taurus Trackers and they shoot cast bullets quite well also.

 

[Tom W]

I've had ( and have) pistols and revolvers that never saw a factory or jacketed load, among them was a few Glocks, a Ruger .45 cal convertible, a SRH .480, a SRH .44 mag, 2 SBH, an Encore pistol in .454, well, just almost anything that I bought gets cast... Some people just read stuff and ASSUME that it's gospel.

 

[FergusonTO35]

All of my guns shoot cast better than jacketed, and that includes four Glocks and five Marlins with Micro Groove.

 

[bigbill]

I had a leading problem but I switched over to moly coated bullets and the leading went away. I did notice there’s no instructions about using moly coated bullets. I notice the bore is a grayish color. I just mop it, I don’t wash it. The moly is in the pores of the metal. The mop cleans the barrel. No solvent. I been using moly since the 70’s.

 

[Major T]

I don't have a LCR, but my two Ruger .44s, a 50th .44 Magnum Anniversary and a SS FT ..44 Special are both on a diet of hard cast 240 grain Keith Type bullets. They both like them just fine. My S&W snub noses get wadcutters for practice and they do not object.

Jack

 

[Jeepnik]

Sadly, many folks who work selling firearms are the worst source of correct information. I've personally overheard some complete cow manure cross their lips. I have not and will not shy away from correcting them.

I'm polite when I do, and I always ask to speak to their boss when I'm done. I make sure the boss knows that they need to educate their employees better. I have been ask, once, to leave a shop and never return. But I figure I've done more good with the one incident than they will ever inflict on me.

Oh, and Glocks shoot cast just fine. Either that or I'm living in an alternate universe.

 

[sixshot]

It's a rare gun that won't shoot cast great! That can be a revolver, a semi auto, etc. doesn't matter, if you do your part the gun will shoot cast bullets as good as jacketed in new guns or old guns.

Dick

 

[DeletedMember25091]

Hard Cast Bullets in Polygonal Barrels

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[Major T]

My 38/357 are all older S&W, but they all love 148 wadcutters. Both my 44s are Rugers and they are 12 and about 7 years old. Once upon a time I bought a box of 1000 hard Keith type 240 grain bullets. Both the Magnum and Special love them over moderate charges of Unique. Happy, happy.

Jack

 

[JD2]

My 3" LCRx shoots cast bullets just fine. Groups run just under 3 inches or so at 25 yards. It is hard to shoot that well and takes concentration as the trigger is about 5 pounds single action. My woods carry load is the Hornady 158 grains SWCHP loaded to about 900 fps. Both that load and hard cast 158 SWC bullets shoot well out of such a light gun. It has become my favorite gun to carry while wondering in the woods or hiking...

 

[old sparky]

I have no idea of how many pistols I have had. They all will shoot cast bullets well IF they are the correct diameter. I even have a open sight 38/55 rifle that will shoot Moa out to a hundred after a lot of playing with the diameter and lube. Another thing I have been taught is any cast bullet whether hard, soft or magic coated will lead the bore if they are to small. the hot gas gets by the base and liquefies the lead. Casting can be cheaper, and rewarding.

thanks, Sparky

 

[bigbill]

I started loading leadcast bullets from Carolina they were moly coated that cut down on the leading in the barrel.

 

[Tom W]

Well, I took my SRH to the SO range today with 310 gr Lee bullets and a healthy load of H110. We were on the rifle range shooting at metallic silhouettes @ 100 yards or more, and hitting them with regularity. Open sights. My Ruger #1B in 30-06 A.I. was also with me, and I was shooting it with 14 Gr. of Red Dot at the same targets with 170 gr RD gc bullets. If I would have believed the naysayers I might have stayed home, but the cast did just fine, as expected..

 

[wildcatter]

Here are my latest results pushing my own cast bullets harder than most would dare pushing jacketed bullets in a 327 Federal,, OH thats right, you can't find jacketed pistol bullets for any 32 this heave!

Yes another modern cartridge the 327 Federal, along side the old decrepit 357 mag. 170 grain cast HP as I cast it, in the 357, at a lowly 1455 fps,, and the 132grain as I cast penta HP in the 327 federal at a mild 1500+ fps, over 15 grains heavier than any jacketed bullet available for this caliber.

Then after tweaking the 327 load at 50 yards nearly clipping along at 1550 fps with accuracy rivaling some rifles, again with a bullet weight that is not even available commercially in a jacketed form.

I caution anyone that this is with a surplus bulk Magnum pistol powder that is not commercially available as a canister powder! It is an out of the box, 6" HB 327 GP-100. The Bisley is a custom sixgun and no way do I suggest these loads are safe in any other revolver!

 

[rkcohen]

"Modern Guns do not shoot cast bullets !"

...shh! that'll be your little secret...

 

[JStacy]

My new 6" 327 GP100 , wildcatter's fault, shot some light loads, heavy 32 mag but light 327 , and it grouped them quite nicely into 2" groups from two handed hold , open sights, at 25 yards. An old Skeeter Skelton load in 32 mag case.
The gun did not like the Federal eagle 100 SP load. 3-4" at 25 yards and man that is a hot load !!