Misboxed Ruger

[martyj]

Is there any collector value in a misboxed Ruger.
The box and all the paper work are marked 45 colt and are the same serial # as the revolver.
However the revolver is a 45 acp and the fired case is 45 acp but the envelope is marked 45 colt.
Thanks martyj

 

[Big Old Boy]

I don't know but I would not let it get away.

 

[22/45 Fan]

Was it a convertible originally with both 45 Colt and 45 ACP cylinders and the 45 Colt cylinder is missing?

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

"Was it a convertible originally with both 45 Colt and 45 ACP cylinders and the 45 Colt cylinder is missing?"

+1 ..... That was my first thought also.

 

[Terry T]

I believe the only .45 ACP (only) revolvers have been the Talo Birds Heads New Vaqueros offered over the last couple of years.
They were offered in both .45 LC OR .45 ACP but not as a convertible. Could have been rather easy to get a mis-print box label.
We'd like to see a photo of the box label and the gun.

I have a 'clean up' late production Old Army who's box is labeled "45 Colt"! :shock:

More interesting have been actual guns mis marked with a different model name stamped on the gun. I have 3 Speed Sixs mis marked as Police Service Sixs.
The point is that mis mark mistakes DO occur. :shock:

More to your point - a collector might give a bit of a premium for such a mis-print but not very much at this point.

Really would like to see some photos. :D
Terry T

 

[martyj]

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=464930324
Hope I dont regret this
makes me wonder if it left the factory listed as Colt or acp

 

[Terry T]

I think you did OK on this. You may have paid a $50 or so premium for a unique piece. Might take a while to 'recover' that premium should you need to sell. Limited group of folks (collectors) who would pay the premium but, all in all, I'd say you're OK on this.

Thanks for sharing! Very cool to we collectors. :D
Terry T

 

[Hondo44]

I suspect that rather than a Ruger labeling mistake, history shows us that Ruger used whatever labels were available to get the gun shipped out the door. This could be confirmed by calling Talo and asking how other boxes for this model are labeled. Or a polling thread about other box marking on this forum of other owners of this model.

 

[Terry T]

I would disagree with Hondo44 on this one.
The labels are computer generated with the bar code corresponding to the ser. no. and the ser. no.

I'm going to guess that someone just picked the wrong model on the drop down box on the computer screen and then entered the correct ser. no. of the actual gun. The combination of model error but correct ser. no. resulted in a label being printed with the mis-mash of data.
Just my $0.02 worth. (I made my living telling programmers how to program computers with legible and (somewhat) fool proof screens for data entry.) :shock:
Terry T

 

[Hondo44]

Terry,

I'll buy that! I'm a bit stuck in the old pre computer thinking.

 

[Terry T]

Hondo44,
I've been retired for 5 years - a lifetime in computer development so..... I'm also in danger of getting 'stuck in the old ways". :oops:

Just had too many cases where I was absolutely sure I had programmed for every possible mistake a data entry operator could make, only to be proven wrong (again and again!). :shock:
Sometimes it seemed like the lowest level employee was the most creative in finding ways to break my really cool system. :lol:
Terry T

 

[OldePhart]

Hondo44,
Sometimes it seemed like the lowest level employee was the most creative in finding ways to break my really cool system. :lol:
Terry T

Man...that's the plain truth for sure. I used to develop software for autonomous cruise missiles and we had to analyze everything that could possibly go wrong during a mission, define all the critical failure paths and the corrective action for each, yada, yada, yada. That's a piece of cake compared to the stuff I do now where a human interface is involved!

John

 

[martyj]

Well the pistol does have the 45acp cylinder in it.
The dealer ordered 3 45 colts and this is the only one he received that was incorrect.
I was wondering if it would do any good to see how it lettered or if it would even be worth the effort to call them?

 

[Terry T]

I'd say for the $10, a letter could prove interesting. Makes for a more complete package down the road when you might want to move it along to another collector.
Terry T

 

[NewportNewsMike]

.....program computers with .... fool proof screens

From my experience, any time you manage to do that, the world just comes up with a bigger fool!

 

[contender]

I have seen a few guns shipped with incorrect data printed on the label from Ruger. I handled a set of 3 John Wayne 32's a while back that one was incorrect. As Terry says, it happens occasionally. Keep it all together & get a letter.

 

[T.A. WORKMAN]

I can't remember the post,,,but I remember Chad posting that miss-marked labels seemed to be on the rise for a while there.

TT is spot on with the Letter,,,that is the bottom line on what the gun shipped as.
Terry

 

[steelshooterco]

MartyJ,

Did some digging on model number vs catalog, and think you have a goof up if the model number (not shown in the photo is as follows), so think TerryT hit the nail on the head.

Think these were 3-3/4" birds heads with black laminate grips, blued guns. The 45 Colt was a NVBH-453 and the number was 5153. The 45 ACP version of this, all things the same except caliber was a NVBH-453A, and the number 5154.

You may have to provide Ruger with photos of the gun and the label, as their records will show it being what the box says and that is what you will get a letter on.

Good luck with the letter!

 

[martyj]

http://s576.photobucket.com/user/ma...1_zps7unp84qx.jpg.html?state=replace&sp=false

This is the box label and the revolver is stamped 45 acp with a 45 acp cylinder.
Have to send a form in now for a letter verses just a phone call at least that is what they told me yesterday.

 

[contender]

 

[steelshooterco]

Marty J,

PM sent on a similar experience I had.

 

[dakota1911]

I am amazed a mismarked box adds any value to the gun.

 

[contender]

We crazy collectors enjoy finding mistakes in many forms! It may not matter to many of us, but some of us do pay that stuff a bit of attention!

 

[T.A. WORKMAN]

Here is an example of how Ruger handled a "miss Labeled" gun for a customer. Guy has it up for sale as a "Rare" collectible.

As a collector I would not place a premium on a miss labeled gun.

JM.02
Terry

Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan, .454 Casull!

No reserve, Grizzly repellant! Rare error gun


•In stock, brand new, ready to ship! This has got to be one of the rarest guns to leave the Ruger factory, here is why: We ordered an Alaskan Backpacker Gun chambered in .480Ruger, model 5302 ( 05302 ) and they sent us this gun. The label on the box shows “Model 05302 and “CALIBER: 480 RUGER”. But upon verification of the serial number, we realized that the box was miss-marked and that they had shipped us the 454 version of this beast.

The envelope that they put the spent casing in is marked with “480 Ruger”, but contains a spent .454 shell casing! We got in touch with Ruger and they apologized for the goof up, and sent us a letter containing the labels that should have been on the box. We didn’t apply them to the box, left them in the envelope as a “collectable mistake” that I can’t say I’ve ever seen happen before. I think if’s safe to say that this package is “1 of 1”. A great addition to your Ruger collection, or if you invest in Rare Colt guns like the Python and Anaconda, or other rare limited edition guns, then this unique specimen will fit right in. The extra “correct” labels are included as shown, proof from Ruger regarding the true identity of this revolver and add value if you decide to part with it down the road.



This model is highlighted by the following features:
•Item #: 5301 / 05301
•UPC_Code: 736676053018
•Description: RUGER S/RDHWK 454 DA REV 2.5SS
•Manufacturer: Ruger
•Model #: Super Redhawk Alaskan
•Type: Revolver
•Finish: Stainless Steel
•Stock: Black Hogue Monogrip
•Sights: Front: Ramp Rear: Adjustable
•Barrel Length: 2.5"
•Overall Length: 7.62"
•Weight: 44 oz
•Caliber: 454 Casull 45LC ( .45 Long Colt )
•Capacity: 6
•Action: Double Action
•Packaging: Plastic Case
•Features: Unfluted Cylinder

 

[martyj]

I got the letter from Ruger to day and it is for a 45 LC
Not sure if that mean anything or not or if they even check there records when they send the letters out.
I also have a letter for a 3 digit red eagle shipped in Oct of 1947.
Going off of those two letter I don't put a whole lot of faith in there ability to always get things right.

 

[edlmann]

More interesting have been actual guns mis marked with a different model name stamped on the gun. I have 3 Speed Sixs mis marked as Police Service Sixs.

Not a mismark, but the earliest Police Service Six revolvers were marked, "Security Six."

 

[chet15]

Martyj:
The factory says its a .45 Colt because the end label for the subject gun of this thread says ".45 Colt". So the person doing the entering in the ledgers before these things are shipped out isn't going to open those boxes to check to make sure somebody got the right gun in there.
I am sure if you asked the factory about it and told them about their error, they would probably want the gun back so they could re-ship with a correctly labeled box.
Been there, done that.
Chet15

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Just goes to show that when you're absolutely positive you have created the PERFECT, FOOLPROOF thing, a better fool comes along . . .

;)