Me and revolvers......

[Mus408]

For some reason when I shoot my single action revolvers of various brands, my shots hit right of my aim point...far right! Now I shoot left handed...however when I shoot my semi-auto pistols,I tend to be right on center. Could it be the way I grip the plow handle type grips of these Western style revolvers?
My 3.5 inch barreled revolver is the worst case.
Think I will get one of those laser bore sight tools and slip it in the barrel just to see if my aim point is really where the gun is pointing.
Tired of having to aim off target to the left,from a distance, to get the bullet where I want it!

 

[contender]

Dollars to donuts,,, it's your gripping!

 

[rugerguy]

I agree, and the placement of the trigger finger, long, short, push ,pull, we can usually 'read" a target of other shooters simply by hole location, go back and check their grip, and trigger finger......same holds true for stubby fingers, fat fingers and LONG fingers, must concentrate on just where you place the tip ( pad).....watch when shooting single or double action........................
then there is anticipation, and/ or heeling of some guns, again, pushing, pulling and flinching.........

 

[Mus408]

Must be something in my grip that doesn't happen with the more squared off type semi-auto grips...like my 1911 or Glock.
It's funny though..my buddy couldn't hit anything with his Glock,so he traded it on a nice .357 revolver with about a 6 inch barrel and can hit what he wants. I could pick up his Glock and hit anything.
I'll keep at it until I get it sorted out! But I think the bore laser tool would be a great place to start.

 

[Mus408]

Now one revolver that I don't have this problem with is my wife's .357 LCR. Again the grip on this one is much different than the Western style six shooters.

 

[rob-c]

that's funny I am opposite of you, dead on with my Blackhawk and right of center with my lcr. I know why, I have very large hands and I steer the gun right just off center when I rapid fire rounds. if I shoot one round and concentrate on my trigger pull the lcr is dead center. I love both guns and it sure is fun clicking of quick strings with that little lcr.

 

[cadillo]

Your grip and trigger finger placement are the issues. When shooting double action revolvers or semi autos, I pull the trigger using the area of the first joint of my index finger. Shooting any revolver in single action mode, I pull the trigger with just the tip of my index finger. This may cause some to gasp in disapproval, but it is what works for me. See what works for someone you know to be a good shooter, and use their method as a starting point, but you will have to experiment to see what works best for YOU.

 

[PriseDeFer]

Any difference in your hold on these two irons viewed from above? Azimuthwise? The hoglegs could be torquing right when fired if not dead straight back to the wrist.

 

[Jim Puke]

This is a right-hander's wheel...so reverse it for yourself.

Your grip and TRIGGER finger are causing your problems.

 

[Joe S.]

I had an SP that was actually clocked just a little, making the gun shoot left.

I had two instructors fire the gun with same results. My LCR is a tad bit too i believe altho not bad. Have someone else shoot the gun and make sure before you try to retrain yourself to shoot a gun that isnt shooting straight.

 

[Mus408]

Many thanks for all the info...especially the shooter's wheel! I will try some things next time I get out.
I should have tried shooting with my right hand to see if it would hit left.
Could very well be the torqueing issue also!

 

[schloss]

I had a lot of problems when I switched from my GP over to single actions. I shot great with my 51 Navy, but not so good with the Blackhawk. I think I was hitting left and low. I put up with it for a long time, and tried to correct things, but had little success with it.

But not too long ago, I ran across a pair of the wood grips for the Blackhawk, and tried them out. They looked better, and wouldn't you know it, my poi problem was solved as well.

 

[Kevin]

Is it with all calibers? As in is there a difference between .22 or .357? I'm left handed. You know in October I went to the East coast Ruger Meet. Tyrone (Contender) spent perhaps 10 minutes with me and improved my shooting instantly. It's not just the grip but also your stance. I'm far from a good shot but those 10 minutes were worth the trip from Dallas.

One tip he impressed upon me is the fingers, my index fingers and thumbs should be pointing downrange.

 

[Mus408]

Is it with all calibers? As in is there a difference between .22 or .357? I'm left handed. You know in October I went to the East coast Ruger Meet. Tyrone (Contender) spent perhaps 10 minutes with me and improved my shooting instantly. It's not just the grip but also your stance. I'm far from a good shot but those 10 minutes were worth the trip from Dallas.

One tip he impressed upon me is the fingers, my index fingers and thumbs should be pointing downrange.

Well I have the problem with my .45-70 BFR too. I WILL get this issue figured out!
Thing is I shoot my 1911 and Glock just fine!

 

[Mus408]

I hit my swinging targets with my 1911 with ease! I will get the SA shooting thing figured out!
http://youtu.be/eESB5KADZ7s

http://youtu.be/q88fbx2szyM?list=UUhieJXyTMwZd7H0NRtYoo2w

 

[GMan351]

Sounds to me like you may be pushing a little with your trigger finger. With the SA grip more rounded than rectangle auto loaders, you can do it easily. Try using different parts of your trigger finger when you shoot. Experiment a few times each way.

Also, are you using one or two hands with the SA? One or two hands with the auto loaders? Try shooting from the bench to get trigger pull practiced, then go unsupported.

Just some ideas.

 

[Rainy Day Shooter]

Focus on the fundamentals, and don't slap the trigger or anticipate the recoil.

 

[5of7]

For some reason when I shoot my single action revolvers of various brands, my shots hit right of my aim point...far right! Now I shoot left handed...however when I shoot my semi-auto pistols,I tend to be right on center. Could it be the way I grip the plow handle type grips of these Western style revolvers?
My 3.5 inch barreled revolver is the worst case.
Think I will get one of those laser bore sight tools and slip it in the barrel just to see if my aim point is really where the gun is pointing.
Tired of having to aim off target to the left,from a distance, to get the bullet where I want it!

If a left hand shooter is printing groups to the right, he needs to lay the thumb along the right side of the frame and apply a little pressure as the trigger is pulled....and don't forget the follow through. 8)

 

[wideglide]

You may want to try a Hogue rubber grip for the revolver. They are only $20.00 and will give you a new dynamic. I put one on my Blackhawk and noticed more control and consistancy. I have similar ones on my Sig P226 and since adding them see much less difference betweeen the guns. Perhaps it's the finger grooves, I don't know. The hogues are not as pretty as the wood grips but the function is better.

 

[frankenfab]

This is a right-hander's wheel...so reverse it for yourself.

Your grip and TRIGGER finger are causing your problems.

I like this one, too!

 

[Bob Wright]

The only trouble with those shooter's wheels is the fact that there is the assumption that the shooter is doing something wrong. It never takes into consideration that the gun's sights are off. And they frequently are.

Bob Wright

 

[Mus408]

What's the best way to check the front sight blade? This is a Uberti/Colt six shooter with fixed sights.
I guess I could set it up in my mill and indicate off of the barrel/bore centerline.
To square up the frame I could remove the cylinder and try to setup off of the bottom of the top strap?
Need to see if the front sight is in line with the rear sight groove.

 

[SargeMO]

The only trouble with those shooter's wheels is the fact that there is the assumption that the shooter is doing something wrong. It never takes into consideration that the gun's sights are off. And they frequently are.

Bob Wright

Bingo. I've lost track of the fixed sight Rugers I've had to regulate over the years.

Another favorite bit of 'expert advice' is to post a ‘Shooter Error Correction Chart’. These are useful in diagnosing problems with one-hand, precision shooting at 25 and 50 yards; but in my experience they are irrelevant for two-hand shooting at any distance. And of course, we don’t have a clue if the subject pistol is zeroed- or the errant shooter is using a proper sight picture, grip or trigger technique.

But nobody wants to hear that. Today, shooters want a graph, chart or webpage to solve all their marksmanship deficiencies in 5 seconds or less. So in keeping with the times, I offer the following:

 

[GMan351]

The best way to check the sight (and easiest) is to let other people shoot it. If everyone shoots in the same area, with different ammo selections, then start looking at sight verification/adjustment. A person should shoot it a LOT before making adjustments, unless they are very proficient with SA revolvers.