Made in china

[Kevin]

I know, this has always been my gripe. Stuff made in China. I bought a pair of cowboy boots for my Christmas press last Christmas. So in January my wife told me I need some of those Ceder shoe inserts, so the boots don't lose their shape in the closet. Yes I do wear them...

Anyhow, I bought a set of ceder shoe inserts. Amazon $20. Made in China. Yesterday at the thrift store, they had a bucket of new ceder shoe inserts made in the USA. (Rochester Shoe Tree Company in Ashland NH) They are new, and I bought 4 sets. (Wife has more shoe than i have guns...but that is another story)

I'm sorry, but I gotta say, the set made in China is far better quality. They look better, move better and are just overall better quality all over.

I really hate to say this too. I guess i need to write the American company and tell them to get on the ball.

 

[Kevin]

Maybe, on the Chinese models the wood is smoother and without defects, the metal springs compress much easier....

I just really don't like the fact that China is the only friend to the North Koreans and they subsidize the North Korean economy...thus, in the long run my dollars go to help North Korea.

But yes, I do know it comes down to dollars and sense. If a company can do it cheaper in China, why try to manufacture something here at home?

 

[GunnyGene]

Prior to the communist takeover of China, the Chinese made some really fine stuff. As an example, these Temple doors, which were made in China about 200 years ago. They also excelled at crockery, clothing (silk), weapons, furniture of all kinds, tools, and many other products. The generally poor quality of Chinese goods since the 1930's is directly attributable to the communists.

 

[radshop]

I lived in China for a while in the 90s, and I can assure you that the ratio of good to bad people there is about the same as here. Just buying American doesn't mean your money is going to a better person.

 

[blume357]

I've suspected for years that there are high quality products made in China, their joke on us is that most of the stuff they make to be sent to us capitalist is junk.

 

[DeletedMember275]

Chinese manufacturers build the desired quality into the product. If the customer (as opposed to the consumer) wants cheap junk, that's what they get. I've heard this from several sources, and am inclined to believe it.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

The high-end Chinese knock-offs are pretty amazing and the stuff at Harbor Freight is also amazing. The Chinese seem to be best at making cheaper copies of quality goods, of course they know what their market is. When is a cheaper quality car from China do to hit America? Perhaps there is a reason for all the regulations.

 

[steelshooterco]

Global companies located in the US send over thier designs to China and Mexico, provide equipment or advise what to use, provide designs and work on quality control plans to insure goods going into the shipping containers are of acceptable quality for the target market.

As money moves off shore, government (thiers) backed companies purchase US companies and pump money in. Those companies then produce knock off goods that can not be imported into the US due to trade restrictions. They can do this as they are US based companies. They then dump goods at below cost into the target US industry to put US competitors out of business.

Once those US (real companies go out of business), the backed US companies are then free to increase prices back to what have been the true market price before they enter.

The cost is now a barrier to entry for new US companies, and then they target their next US industry.

The cows were let out of the barn several decades ago, and now they are starting to exterminate what is left.

Two good sources to read:

Sun Tzu "The Art of War", "The art of war is of vital importance to the State"

How Apple operates in China, and what prices and tarifs are applied to goods sold into China outside of the enterprise zone

 

[Colonialgirl]

Never forget the JUNK that use to be marked "Made In Japan" or the really SNEAKY one marked made in "USA"

Surprise Surprise, USA was a CITY in Japan.

Usa is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. The city was founded on April 1, 1967. On March 31, 2005, the towns of Ajimu and Innai were merged into Usa. Wikipedia

 

[SR1911SHOOTER]

Never forget the JUNK that use to be marked "Made In Japan" or the really SNEAKY one marked made in "USA"

Surprise Surprise, USA was a CITY in Japan.

Usa is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. The city was founded on April 1, 1967. On March 31, 2005, the towns of Ajimu and Innai were merged into Usa. Wikipedia

Colonial Girl,
Been to Japan several times, and never knew that. Has anybody thought about the
Norinco pistols from China? I have never heard anybody complain who bought one on Gun broker,
or Bud's Gun Shop. To me they shoot just like a Yugo Tokarev.
You rock Colonial Girl.
Blackie

 

[blackhawknj]

They probably sell the higher quality items in their domestic market. The PRC doesn't have the consumer protection regulations we have-and their treatment of white collar criminals is a lot rougher.

 

[Thumbcocker]

I too have heard that Chinese industry is fully capable of making quality products and will make whatever to the specs the customer wants. If you want junk they will make junk at a cheap price.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Never forget the JUNK that use to be marked "Made In Japan" or the really SNEAKY one marked made in "USA"

Surprise Surprise, USA was a CITY in Japan.

Usa is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. The city was founded on April 1, 1967. On March 31, 2005, the towns of Ajimu and Innai were merged into Usa. Wikipedia

Hi,

Hmmm... looks like one "infallible" source of the truth is contradicted by another one: http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp

Not that I'm a big believer in either of these as reputable sources, but it's fun to watch 'em butt heads! I heard that "Made in Usa" story in grade school, probably as early as 1960, if not before. "Cheap Japanese Junk" was a single polysyllabic word in my neighborhood at the time. So with that in mind, I think this time I'll grab my popcorn and head over to watch the festivities from the Snopes side of the table this time.

Rick C

 

[Colonialgirl]

Never forget the JUNK that use to be marked "Made In Japan" or the really SNEAKY one marked made in "USA"

Surprise Surprise, USA was a CITY in Japan.

Usa is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. The city was founded on April 1, 1967. On March 31, 2005, the towns of Ajimu and Innai were merged into Usa. Wikipedia

Hi,

Hmmm... looks like one "infallible" source of the truth is contradicted by another one: http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp

Not that I'm a big believer in either of these as reputable sources, but it's fun to watch 'em butt heads! I heard that "Made in Usa" story in grade school, probably as early as 1960, if not before. "Cheap Japanese Junk" was a single polysyllabic word in my neighborhood at the time. So with that in mind, I think this time I'll grab my popcorn and head over to watch the festivities from the Snopes side of the table this time.

Rick C

Snopes spewing the usual load of bovine fecal matter from a stand point of total liberal idiocy.

My quote is from a wikipedia site you can find on line. I'll believe them a long time before snopes.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Snopes spewing the usual load of bovine fecal matter from a stand point of total liberal idiocy.

My quote is from a wikipedia site you can find on line. I'll believe them a long time before snopes.

Hi,

Yup, it's on the Internet so it must be true...

More popcorn, please!

Rick C

 

[Colonialgirl]

Snopes spewing the usual load of bovine fecal matter from a stand point of total liberal idiocy.

My quote is from a wikipedia site you can find on line. I'll believe them a long time before snopes.

Hi,

Yup, it's on the Internet so it must be true...

More popcorn, please!

Rick C

Here's ANOTHER dose for you:


Usa
City in Japan
Usa is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. The city was founded on April 1, 1967. On March 31, 2005, the towns of Ajimu and Innai were merged into Usa. Wikipedia
Local time: Monday 3:04 PM
Population: 55,534 (Mar 1, 2017)
Weather: 73°F (23°C), Wind NW at 11 mph (18 km/h), 74% Humidity
Prefecture: Ōita Prefecture
Phone number: 0978-32-1111
Plan a trip
Usa travel guide
3-star hotel averaging $55
20 h 40 min flight, from $2,437

 

[NikA]

Further down on the Wikipedia page:

There have been false claims that products made in this town and exported to the US in the 1960s carried the label "MADE IN USA", for it to appear as if the product was made in the United States.

It's fun to ignore information that contradicts our knowledge or outlook, isn't it? Pretty ironic that the Wiki page cites the Snopes article anyway. I believe it's been termed "citogenesis": https://xkcd.com/978/

 

[ronto]

I prefer to buy products made in the USA. However, what bothers me about that is that some products are made by union shops and unions support the Democrat Party which is in direct opposition to my individual liberty. I know it's not the fault of the workers on the line because in most cases they are forced to join a union but it still bugs me about buying USA made products.

 

[GunnyGene]

Actually, for most products this discussion of Made in USA, vs made somewhere else, is kinda pointless. Very often, the bits and pieces of something labeled USA come from many other countries and are merely assembled in the US. Cars, household appliances, and Boeing airplanes are prime examples of this. To carry the USA label, I believe that only 51 percent of whatever it is has to be US made parts, unless I'm very mistaken.

 

[GP100]

Actually, for most products this discussion of Made in USA, vs made somewhere else, is kinda pointless. Very often, the bits and pieces of something labeled USA come from many other countries and are merely assembled in the US. Cars, household appliances, and Boeing airplanes are prime examples of this. To carry the USA label, I believe that only 51 percent of whatever it is has to be US made parts, unless I'm very mistaken.

Actually, the way I understand it. The parts can come from anywhere in the world. So long as it is assembled here, it can be labeled "Made In The USA." Which of course is very misleading..

 

[Kevin]

I see all sorts of labels, even "handmade in China" and often times now, they list the city in China, like that makes a difference.

I haven't heard the city in Japan called USA, not really sure if I believe it. If something is made out of cheap plastic and the font is horrible and says "Made in USA" I would question it. I suppose what I'm saying is, I haven't come across any products made there.

 

[ilikerams]

If you look at satellite maps you can find it (Usa, Japan), and if you look around a little you can find Usa, Russia too. We're everywhere.

 

[toysoldier]

Except for a 5' wrecking bar, I haven't purchased any Chinese-made tools. I do have a Norinco-made SKS that shoots well (after Accra-Glas and a trigger job). I also purchased a Norinco copy of the Browning .22 autoloader, and it's just fine at 1/3 the Browning price. Chinese quality will be what the importer demands.

 

[mistermills357]

I'm sorry, but I gotta say, the set made in China is far better quality. They look better, move better and are just overall better quality all over.

I really hate to say this too. I guess i need to write the American company and tell them to get on the ball.

Have you tried Oxydol lately? It is watery crap, and I remember when it was very good detergent. It just went to crap. So much for American Made Quality.