LC9s even better now

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My LC9s has been my EDC for several years. Occasionally, when I felt more comfortable having greater capacity I would carry my Glock 26 despite it being a bit thick for pocket holster carry. I recently was able to buy the extended magazine for the LC9s, giving my a 9+1 capacity, and acetually making this little gun easier to hold firmly with the longer magazine. I'm not sure that the Glock will ever be coming out of the safe again. I still dislike the hassle of dissasembling the LC9s for cleaining (getting the recoil spring properly seated is a real pain) but the slim size and reliability of this pistol makes it a keeper for me.
 
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More than once I've noted a comment about not being a fan of striker fired guns, but maybe someone can clarify why that might be. Regardless of the mechanism that actually strikes the primer, for me the only real factor is the reliability of the firearm. If the gun fires every time I pull the trigger, and never otherwise, what more is desired? With a live round seated in the chamber, I have never had a striker fired gun fail to fire when the trigger was pulled so I am puzzled as to why some folks avoid striker fired guns.
 
I believe most people who prefer hammer fired guns do so because of the trigger. A light crisp trigger with a short reset can improve accuracy and follow up shot speed. The trigger feel of most of what are generally considered good striker fired guns are mushy without a clean break. I don't have experience with Caniks, but I've heard their striker fired guns have excellent triggers for being striker fired.

The other advantage is if a hammer fired gun is da/sa you can carry it hammer down with a round in the chamber. The da trigger pull is so heavy it nearly eliminates the chance of an accidental discharge, yet the follow up shots are single action making the trigger pull lighter and the follow up shots more accurate.

I have a Sig P365, which is generally considered to be a good striker fired gun with a better trigger than the striker fired industry standard glock (I don't personally know as I'm not a glock fan boy and have never shot one). I can tell you that my $450 Rock Island 1911 has a far superior trigger and I can put tighter groups together with it. The 1911 has a short and very light take up with probably a 4 lb very clean break. The P365 has a mushy take up with almost no break. It's almost like you just pull till it goes off. The 1911 is so much more predictable and easy to hold still while the trigger breaks.

I have watched more than one YouTuber make 50 yard shots with a P365. They can be accurate and it is totally possible to train through the deficiencies in a striker fired trigger. Another caveat is if you are choosing a da/sa hammer fired gun for carry you should train shooting the first shot da as it is not easy to remain accurate going from an 8lb to 4lb pull (a typical difference in da/sa pull weights) from one shot to the next. It's important to consider that your first shot is definitely the most important and may be your only chance to defend yourself. Having a less accurate heavy pull on the first shot might not be the best idea without a lot of training.

As an example of how important trigger pull is for accuracy: my tightest group last outing (all five in a three inch circle at 15 yards) was with my Dad's charter arms snub nose 38 pulling the hammer back for a single action trigger (probably not realistic in a defensive situation). That gun has the lightest trigger I've ever felt. I accidentally fired a shot before I was ready just resting my finger on the trigger (I was just about to start shooting so the gun was pointed down range). It probably has a 1.5 lb single action trigger and it is like an accuracy cheat code.
 
The Sig P365 is just about all that is left on my gun bucket list.... but then if you look at my post you will discover how much of a Sig fan I am..... even though I profess to not like striker fired guns I have to confess I own three Glocks but only because I have two rifles (actually one is considered legally a pistol) that take Glock magazines.... the real confession is that the last two times I went to Front Sight out in Nevada I took my Sig P320 compact (striker fired) and both times on the qualification shooting shot a perfect score...the last time with no time penalties.... Also, I have a FHN 9mm pistol (made here in S.C.) bought by accident from a fellow member that I can actually shoot even better... but it has one of those little flippy levers on the side that has to be flipped down and show the red dot to be able to pull the trigger. I guess when I put down striker fired it is just for me not what I prefer to carry. I'm an old DA/SA guy who likes a metal gun. I'm also somewhat of a debutant in that the gun has to look good by my taste.

Oh and JonsP944: I've had the same problem with my S&W model 19 shooting it single action... sometimes it would go off before I was ready, the interesting thing is I always thought shooting single action has to be more accurate than double action... it's how I was taught to shoot a double action revolver..... last year I took a couple of my DA/SA pistols to the range to prove this.... I discovered that I was just as accurate shooting only double action as with only single action.... it was just one test and one day but surprised me.
Now I was only shooting Sig P265's and these have a smooth some what light double action pull and a crisp break as well as being a full size heavy pistol which means a lot less recoil than on these new iddybiddy plastic guns that are all the rage these days.
 
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I've had 3 or 4 through the years. The LC9's are not particularly accurate. But they will eat any ammo and go bang every time. Would still have one if my boy hadn't wanted to get rid of his Kimber Micro 9.
 
The Sig P365 is just about all that is left on my gun bucket list.... but then if you look at my post you will discover how much of a Sig fan I am..... even though I profess to not like striker fired guns I have to confess I own three Glocks but only because I have two rifles (actually one is considered legally a pistol) that take Glock magazines.... the real confession is that the last two times I went to Front Sight out in Nevada I took my Sig P320 compact (striker fired) and both times on the qualification shooting shot a perfect score...the last time with no time penalties....



My P944 has a decent double action trigger, but it doesn't have a clean break. I bet that would make a huge difference. With a predictable break and training I could see being accurate with double action. I have read good things about hammer fired sigs. The P229 is on my bucket list.
 
The last gun on my list was a Sig P226 Legion in SAO... for some convoluted reason a guy on another forum was selling a Sig P250 in .380 caliber for a good price and I bought it from him.... while leaving my FFL after doing the transfer I of course walked by the used pistol displayed..... I won't cuss here.. but I did under my breath while looking in that case... I'd still like to know the history of the one sitting there I came back and paid cash for the next day... it was less than a year old... way less than 100 rounds through it.
 
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I had the EC9s (same gun with fixed sights), it was my edc for 3 years. It was very reliable, never gave me an issue. January of last year it developed a problem, all of a sudden the slide would start locking back mid magazine. Ruger sent me a new slide lock and I replaced it, no change. Sent it in and it got better but still did it, sent it in again. While I was waiting for it to come back I learned it's a somewhat common issue.

I'm not bashing the platform, there are a lot of guys that have had the LC/EC9s for years with no issues and countless rounds. Sometimes the slide lock spring will get weak over time, its not a normal occurance but it's happened a few times. I'm guessing a bad spring might slip through here and there. Mine only had about 1200 rounds through it before it developed. In it's place a I got a Glock 43x. Just something to keep an eye on is all.
 
I also EC an EC9s and was experiencing rust on the slide. Pocket carry in an Uncle Mikes pocket holster. I applied 2 coats of Birchwood Casey Barricade and haven't had a problem since.
I was going to have the slide hard chromed.
 
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