Jury duty

[xTopGun]

Understood that it's frustrating. Been there done that. But at least he went.
The attitude of " I just won't go if I get called" is a different thing.

a) good for him, he did his "civic" duty serving today's society

b) I'd go "if" I didn't already know in advance that there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell of serving

c) we all have choices in life to make

d) "prove" I was served

e) 40 years ago different attitude, today though I've paid my dues and performed more than my share of civic duty... now I'm enjoying my later years without that BS

 

[Skeet 028]

I got to serve on a murder trial jury. Couldn't believe they chose me. It lasted a couple weeks. Death Penalty cases. The guy and his friends threatened the judge and jury. When we got done...I told the Clerk of the Court (was a school mate/friend) to take me off the list and don't call me again. It was a nasty case. And I disliked reporters. He got life without parole

 

[peachhead]

a) good for him, he did his "civic" duty serving today's society

b) I'd go "if" I didn't already know in advance that there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell of serving

c) we all have choices in life to make

d) "prove" I was served

e) 40 years ago different attitude, today though I've paid my dues and performed more than my share of civic duty... now I'm enjoying my later years without that BS

Makes no difference how long you have done it or what has transpired over the years.
Law says you go. You don't get to pick what's good for you and what's not.
That's part of the overall issue we have.in this country, everybody just does what they want, and they pass that on to their kids, and they pass it on.
I may not like it either. I don't get paid to go on Jury duty. But if I get called I go because it's the right thing to do.

 

[redhawker]

Around these parts, you get $10 to $11 a day for jury service. Why the two rates? Heck if I know, but that's what I just read. Anyway, my point on that is, in the courtroom, you've got at least, the judge, the prosecutor, the defense lawyer, the clerk, the court reporter, and the bailiff (Deputy). So, that's at least 6 people in the courtroom making from about $220,000 to $73,000 a year base pay, likely more, plus benefits. And they want to pay jurors $10 a DAY, not an hour, a DAY. If you worked an 8-hour day, that would be $1.25 and hour, or just as a comparison, $2,600 a year, with no benefits. Every time I've been called for Jury Duty, we've been given some high-and-mighty speech about how important jurors are to the system, yet they're paying you the equivalent of $1.25 an hour while everyone else in the courtroom (except the defendant, of course) is making from $105.77 to $35.10 an hour, plus benefits. If jurors are so important to the system, how about paying them $20 an hour or so? I'll bet if they did, they wouldn't have any problem getting people to serve on juries. BTW - for you old farts like me, we have a built-in get out of jury service excuse. "Your honor, I have Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH) (AKA - Enlarged Prostate), and I need to get up suddenly, at random times, and quickly head into the restroom. I can't sit through hours of testimony."

 

[XP100]

Got a notice to show up to court for Jury duty. I had a gun shop and knew most of the county sheriff's. When called on I knew the arresting officer and told thee person questioning my I didn't think he would have arrested the perp if he was not guilty. I was dismissed and never got another notice. I am now in Florida over 70 and am exempt from serving. PS, I got a check for 40.00 for spending over 1/2 a day in the courtroom before I was called on.

 

[375hh1973]

Wife got summons 2 weeks ago.

Sat there most of the day, finally got called. Got asked some questions, when she stated her highest level of education is a masters degree in biology, the defense atty said nope.

I was summoned once, was 19 and deployed in the Persian Gulf. Dad opened it up, wrote "NAVY-DEPLOYED" on it and sent it back.

I have moved and re-registered to vote several times, have never been summoned since. And I'm good with that.

 

[xTopGun]

Makes no difference how long you have done it or what has transpired over the years.
Law says you go. You don't get to pick what's good for you and what's not.
That's part of the overall issue we have.in this country, everybody just does what they want, and they pass that on to their kids, and they pass it on.
I may not like it either. I don't get paid to go on Jury duty. But if I get called I go because it's the right thing to do.

 

[LDB]

a) good for him, he did his "civic" duty serving today's society

b) I'd go "if" I didn't already know in advance that there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell of serving

c) we all have choices in life to make

d) "prove" I was served

e) 40 years ago different attitude, today though I've paid my dues and performed more than my share of civic duty... now I'm enjoying my later years without that BS

"Prove" you weren't. And you don't know anything in advance, unless it's that you know some day eventually you will die. That's all any of us know in advance. $100-$1000 fine. That's what it costs here to not go.

 

[Titus]

This is going to vary so much state by state that I really have to question whether the question is worth asking. You get a summons to give you notice. Would you prefer to be called the night before? Cases settle; trials get continued (put over to a later date). That’s why you get to call in (or whatever system your locality uses) and find out if you really need to show up. Juror # is totally random in my state (see first sentence). I’m a lawyer. I’ve never been selected and never expect to be, but I’ll always show up and be ready to do my civic duty.

 

[oldmarine69]

Off subject, but could someone tell me how to start a new post/discussion please? Thanks in advance!!

 

[MaxMan]

Mom and dad never made it through the questioning. USN Ret. and Wife of USN Ret.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Off subject, but could someone tell me how to start a new post/discussion please? Thanks in advance!!

Go to the forum you want to start it in and type in the thread title and then post your content.

 

[Richbaker]

Jury Nullification.
Learn it practice it...
Judges hate it.
https://fija.org/library-and-resour...ification-faq/what-is-jury-nullification.html

 

[Sturgis270]

75 years old and was called for jury duty once. Federal Courthouse in Milwaukee. Jury was filled by people called in front of me. The upside was a chance to see this old Courthouse. Beautiful building.

 

[oldmarine69]

Go to the forum you want to start it in and type in the thread title and then post your content.

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Great. Thank you!

 

[xTopGun]

"Prove" you weren't. And you don't know anything in advance, unless it's that you know some day eventually you will die. That's all any of us know in advance. $100-$1000 fine. That's what it costs here to not go.

Uhmm, if memory serves me correctly, in the US the onus is on the court to prove someone was "legally" served, not the accused to prove their innocence..... duhhh

 

[WendyZXZ]

I have never had jury duty. My husband has been on three. One was for a parental rights revocation hearing for a couple in Huntsville for making, selling and using meth. Revoked. He was on a grand jury and the following year he was called. During the selection for the third call he spoke up that the case sounded like one where the grand jury indicted the accused it was so he was excused that time.

 

[tunnug]

I'm hoping for jury duty in retirement. I actually enjoyed court. I enjoyed providing a well built solid case for the Prosecution and was more than happy to testify....in most places that is. Blue controlled places was miserable. You knew going in with the best built case that most likely it was all for nothing. Leftist Judges would make you feel like you were the one on trial.

I officially retire next FRI 29MAY26. Still have some pending cases. If called I will be more than happy to attend. Hey, it means I can get consultant's pay, mileage/rental, nice hotel and nice meal.

Congratulations, mine is the 31st, my job has kept me from attending anything over one day, I usually get dismissed by not getting picked, would have liked to be in the last one I was called for, son murdering his mother for money, unfortunately it was going to last at least 3 weeks so couldn't do it.

 

[Jim Walsh]

I was summoned a few times but only had to appear once. I was selected for a murder trial. After a couple days the defendant took a plea offer and we were sent home. A few months later I got another one in the mail, my wife called her friend who was a clerk in the court. She removed me from the jury pool and I’ve never been sent a summons again. That was about 40 years ago.

 

[eveled]

Google says I can wear overalls to church, but says I cannot wear overalls to court!

 

[Jim Walsh]

Google says I can wear overalls to church, but says I cannot wear overalls to court!

You certainly can, you may just not like the admonishments the Judge has at their discretion to encourage you dress appropriately. Ten bucks a day for jury duty will look like a bargain when you are forced to pay the clerk fifty bucks for exhibiting your independent side.

 

[eveled]

I would never disrespect the court.

Just seeing the oddness of them saying to wear what you would wear to church.

Sounds like I’d be penalized more for wearing overalls than the people who throw the summons away.

 

[LDB]

Uhmm, if memory serves me correctly, in the US the onus is on the court to prove someone was "legally" served, not the accused to prove their innocence..... duhhh

Yeah, well, pissed me off with that attitude. Still does. Hence the appropriate reply whether the official one or not.

 

[LDB]

Congratulations, mine is the 31st, my job has kept me from attending anything over one day, I usually get dismissed by not getting picked, would have liked to be in the last one I was called for, son murdering his mother for money, unfortunately it was going to last at least 3 weeks so couldn't do it.

Here one can get out of one time with certain schedule conflicts but other than maybe a few specific things at some point one has to be available regardless of how long trial may last. The pool I was in was for a case that would have gone 4 to possibly 6 days total they estimated.

 

[blume357]

I know a guy who I would meet once a year at a convention and he was one of these folks on the fringe who did not think the U.S.A. government was relevant or such and did not have a valid drivers license or state I.D. They finally took him to court for not keeping his dog on a leash will walking him (he didn't think this law was legal either) ... He then explained to the judge all this and that the judge really did not have the authority to do anything about him not having a state I.D. After 30 days sitting in a jail cell he decided to get a state I.D. and that possibly the judge did have some 'authority'.

 

[Watertender]

^^^^ Sovereign citizens is a whole other topic. I have a friend whose son is one of them... Defininate disconnect with those people

 

[xTopGun]

^^^^ Sovereign citizens is a whole other topic. I have a friend whose son is one of them... Defininate disconnect with those people

is this one of the terms that Sovereign citizens use on officers to confuse them . . .

 

[Terry Morgan]

I've lived here in Illinois for 30 years and have been called for jury duty only once. That one time I was picked for the jury and in fact was the Foreman. The whole trial only took two days, of a "sovereign citizen" claiming that he did not need to have license plates on his cars, that he understood what the law said, but that he wanted us to practice "jury nullification" and to acquit him of the charges. We found him guilty, and the judge apologized to the jury for the time spent on this.

As to the "dress as you would for church" I find that an unacceptable choice of words by the local government. It makes the assumption that everyone goes to church, which is an ignorant assumption. Personally I would have ignored that instruction and worn whatever I otherwise would have worn that day, possibly shorts and flip flops.

Do 'sovereign citizens' really believe that nonsense?

 

[Watertender]

is this one of the terms that Sovereign citizens use on officers to confuse them . . .

No... That's a throbbing ankle and lack of sleep. Thanks for pointing out my error in spelling.

 

[Watertender]

Do 'sovereign citizens' really believe that nonsense?

Yes vito they do. My friend's son lives in a camper and he painted the door purple so anyone who comes in is trespassing. He claims he doesn't drive, he travels so he can't be questioned about it.