If this doesn't break your heart........

[Bob Wright]

Local news reported that at a nearby community, on high school graduation night, two young girls, ages sixteen and seventeen, were found dead on the school campus, and a third in critical condition. All apparently from drug overdose.

SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD!

Bob Wright

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

Unfortunately leftists are too busy dealing with white supremacists to care. Not sure whose side they are on. Prayers for the family.

 

[Yoter]

Fentanyl?

 

[Snake45]

There's probably a few stories like this everywhere every month now. It's mostly kept low-key because it doesn't "fit the narrative." "Gun violence" fits the narrative, so it gets all the attention. Drugs are now killing four or five times as many Americans as guns do, but pointing that out would upset the "wrong" people.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

It's terrible what is going on with drugs in this country.
What really sucks is that we have an administration that does not care one bit.
They are just as big of scum bags as the ones that bring it over and sell it to our kids.

 

[hittman]

HALF that age be no surprise these days ……

 

[Watertender]

Sadly there is a lot of this going on. I know a lot of people who have lost family members to drug overdoses. In the vast majority of cases it's fentanyl added to the drug to increase the potency. How many of these people are brought back time and time again with Narcan just to do it again.... It's an epidemic and no end in sight

 

[contender]

It does break your heart.

Locally, in po-dunk very rural Polk County,, we've seen overdoses in their high school. A young lady who works at a local cafe tells us about that stuff. NOBODY says anything in the news.
In my day,,, smoking dope was the biggest thing that got kids in trouble. But nobody was doing stuff so dangerous as the current crap they use.

 

[Wyandot Jim]

In my teen years dope was a finish you put on fabric airplanes.
Our big event was drinking a beer when the parents were not around if we could find someone 18 YO to buy a whole 6 pack of 3.2 beer



Just the facts.

 

[rwp315]

Unfortunately leftists are too busy dealing with white supremacists to care. Not sure whose side they are on. Prayers for the family.

Because it doesn’t create more votes! They care about themselves. After living in Iran 77-79 and my taking me to a lot of third world countries I always said it won’t be long and the behavior will make it here.

Why obey traffic laws and such, they don’t anywhere else!

 

[black1970]

This was in Fayette County, TN. Just outside of Summerville about 40 miles East of Memphis. Cocaine laced with fentanyl. Don’t they teach these kids in school what will happen if you do drugs? BTY one was in foster care with the father several hours away. This fits perfect with the Socialist Communist narrative. Take control of the youth and the country is ours. Drugs are BAD.

 

[john guedry]

What more can be said. Drugs are the worst thing to hit our country EVER. And none of the "powers that be" give a damn 'cause it doesn't "fit the narrative".

 

[turd]

Is there any subject that doesn't bring the political? This thread was about the misery of losing some young folks at the beginning of their "adult" lives. I don't believe for a moment that anyone doesn't care. That is . Tell us what YOU would do about the drug problem that hasn't been tried or is now being done.

 

[JiminMaine]

There's probably a few stories like this everywhere every month now. It's mostly kept low-key because it doesn't "fit the narrative." "Gun violence" fits the narrative, so it gets all the attention. Drugs are now killing four or five times as many Americans as guns do, but pointing that out would upset the "wrong" people.

Last year in Maine there were 178 firearms deaths, 29 homicides. There were 716 drug overdose deaths. Just about every gun death is covered by the news media. You very seldom hear about individual drug overdoses, just the annual totals.

 

[Watertender]

Is there any subject that doesn't bring the political? This thread was about the misery of losing some young folks at the beginning of the "itadult" lives. I don't believe for a moment that anyone doesn't care. That is . Tell us what YOU would do about the drug problem that hasn't been tried or is now being done.

It gets political because of the money trail. Someone is making money from it and there is lip service from both major parties but not much else. No matter how much you tell people not to mess with drugs some are going try them. Perhaps this was the first and last time these kids tried it but we will probably never know.

I have had to deal with both drug rehabs and drug addicts in my life. The rehabs were as a result of the jobs I have had and the addicts were family and former friends.

The manipulative nature of an addict is amazing. They always try to justify their actions and blame you for the problem. My mother and brother are and were addicts. My mother doctor shopped and paid cash at different pharmacies for pain medication, barbiturates and amphetamines. She and my brother would both take this rainbow cocktail of pills and my brother also was using pot and street drugs. My mother would buy clean urine for my brother to use for drug tests. They were both thieves who would literally steal Christ off the Cross and come back for the nails. They forged paperwork in my name and criminally impersonated me. They got credit in my name and even cosigned a loan with me as guarantor which of course they didn't pay. I had my brother arrested and sent to jail for these things but I couldn't prove my mother's involvement. However she was proven criminally in other cases.

The rehabs that I have dealt with are a result of working for a hospital that had both inpatient and outpatient facilities. I was propositioned many times for money by the outpatients and with sexual suggestions by the inpatients if I would bring them drugs. Once I even saw a drug delivery by drone to the inpatient rehab which was on the 4th floor of the building. The drone hovered by a window and a hand came out to take something from it.

Drugs are an epidemic and I hate to say it but the only truly cured addict is one that has OD'd and has a toe tag.

 

[Watertender]

Last year in Maine there were 178 firearms deaths, 29 homicides. There were 716 drug overdose deaths. Just about every gun death is covered by the news media. You very seldom hear about individual drug overdoses, just the annual totals.

Jim I have a feeling that this is true in many places. Drugs are a losing choice that many make. I feel bad for the legitimate guy who can't get prescription pain medication because of the people abusing it. Some get trapped in the cycle of abuse because they overuse what is prescribed. It's true that many doctors over prescribed opioids and created a problem but there are many people who use pain medication to be able to function in life. I have prescribed pain medication due to the type of work I do that has taken a physical toll on my body and also for stage 4 cancer. I use it only as needed and always have enough to get to the end of the prescription. Some days I have to use a little more but many days I can get away with just one pill in the late morning. If I was taken off of them I would have to change my lifestyle to the point where I couldn't do the job I have and would virtually become a couch potato. But my doctors know that would kill me so I take what is prescribed and keep on living my life to the fullest.

 

[Dave P.]

I'm too lazy to Google it but after seeing the graph posted above I wonder what a graph for alcohol related deaths
would look like. It's sad that people make stupid choices that kill them, human weakness has been around forever.
People drink, smoke , and eat themselves to death every day.

 

[DGW1949]

The "War on drugs" is a just a bad joke, and always has been. There's simply too much money in drugs for it to ever be anything else. Remember "The Contra affair"?....Republicans and Democrats (together) orchestrating the biggest cocaine smuggling operation known up to that point, that's what that was....As I recall, it involved the Clintons, plus members of the Bush Clan, plus The Republican Poster-boy "Saint Ronnie" himself....plus elements of the CIA and US Army, one of which we actualy made into a folk hero, and several of which went on to be President themselves. Not to mention all the tons of heroin smuggled into the U.S. on Military aircraft during the Viet Nam years....God Bless America, is this a great country or what. I mean really, does anyone here actually expect our government to do anything about drugs other than possibly eradicate some of it's own competition?....or maybe legalize some of it to increase the tax base?...Oh and BTW, no disrespect to the dead, but them two kids that Bob was talking about would have been allowed to vote in another year or so.....
Just sayin'.

DGW

 

[Snake45]

My daughter's high school best friend ODed a few years ago, long before the fentanyl epidemic. The supreme irony here is that her (single) Dad was a professional drug/rehab counselor, and very well respected by everyone who ever met him. He was "the perfect Dad."

 

[Watertender]

My daughter's high school best friend ODed a few years ago, long before the fentanyl epidemic. The supreme irony here is that her (single) Dad was a professional drug/rehab counselor, and very well respected by everyone who ever met him. He was "the perfect Dad."

Snake45 I am sorry to hear that. It happens in the best of families. A couple of people that I work with have lost kids to drugs. Another's 24 year old daughter lost 3 friends in 2 weeks due to overdoses. Last month a police officer that I know had to be given Narcan because he handled a bag with fentanyl powder on it. After he touched the bag he started to have problems so he dosed himself with the Narcan and called in an emergency on his radio. Hopefully he has no permanent side effects from his exposure...

 

[87flht]

Fentanyl , if they catch anybody smuggling it or distributing it in any way instant death penalty . Just my opinion

 

[87flht]

I'm too lazy to Google it but after seeing the graph posted above I wonder what a graph for alcohol related deaths
would look like. It's sad that people make stupid choices that kill them, human weakness has been around forever.
People drink, smoke , and eat themselves to death every day.

I have just recently connected with some school age friends and was shocked at the number of dead or severe liver problems blamed on excess alcohol

 

[Mike J]

I have known way too many people that drank, drugged or drank & drugged themselves to death. It is tragic but once they are gone there is nothing I can do to help them. I do try to talk to the living to try to encourage them to avoid such things.

Not too long ago my nephew by marriage told me that he thought smoking marijuana wasn't any worse than drinking. I told him that it probably isn't but the problem is marijuana isn't regulated. You do not know what you are getting. For all you know you might get the high you are looking for & be fine. You might die from whatever it is cut with.

 

[Watertender]

Fentanyl , if they catch anybody smuggling it or distributing it in any way instant death penalty . Just my opinion

Give them a dose of the same stuff that they are selling... Instant rehabilitation and no chance of a repeat offense

.

 

[contender]

"Give them a dose of the same stuff that they are selling... Instant rehabilitation and no chance of a repeat offense"

I like that idea.

It is truly sad that young lives are lost.

But,, in most cases,, (exceptions being like the description of how a LEO got exposed,) the USER has/had a choice.
You choose to drink, smoke, do drugs etc.
If bad stuff happens,, it was your choice and you made the wrong choice.

Drinking & smoking may not be as quick, or even as bad as many of the drugs out there now, but they can still really affect your body. I recently lost a friend and part of his health decline was due to his drinking & smoking stuff. He was 59.
His choices,, and now,, he's gone.

The worst part about the current fentanyl or opioid crap is the public enablers. Example; Asheville NC. They have a "needle exchange program," but recently they revealed they only get about 10%-15% of the needles BACK for the numbers they GIVE out to the drug abusers. And they want to build more free housing, more money for narcan, more programs to "help" the offenders, etc. Instead of going after the suppliers, the dealers, and such, they have a "feel good" approach instead of actually trying to fix the problems.

I know many people here may have lost someone they love,, or know of someone who's an abuser. It's heartbreaking,, but it's also reality. Just look at Watertender's example. I told my boys long ago; If you get involved in drugs or such, DO NOT EXPECT SYMPATHY FROM ME. It's YOUR choice. You are being taught better. It would hurt to lose one of my boys, but I'd not bail them out, or do anything that would allow them to continue on a bad path, even if it meant letting them die.
Harsh?
Maybe. But they were taught; It's a choice,,, you made the choice, you live or die with the consequences.

 

[6GUNSONLY]

I've worked in the substance abuse, treatment, and rehab field for most of the past 20 years. There have always been overdoses and it's an inherent risk with using certain drugs. But this fentanyl epidemic is a whole new deal. Not defending drug use in any form, but many of the people who are ODing on fentanyl were not intentionally buying/using fentanyl. The drug suppliers (a rung or two up the ladder from the street level dealers) have pill presses with which they can mimic any Rx drug, oxycodone, Xanax, you name it - including the shape, color, and typical markings on the pills - but what the buyer is getting is fentanyl of varying and unknown strength. Even if the user IS intentionally seeking fentanyl, they never know what strength they are getting. These two factors account for the huge upsurge in OD deaths. Of course, if you don't seek out and use illicit/illegal drugs, you don't have a problem.

 

[turd]

What a business model, kill your clients............

 

[Watertender]

I've worked in the substance abuse, treatment, and rehab field for most of the past 20 years. There have always been overdoses and it's an inherent risk with using certain drugs. But this fentanyl epidemic is a whole new deal. Not defending drug use in any form, but many of the people who are ODing on fentanyl were not intentionally buying/using fentanyl. The drug suppliers (a rung or two up the ladder from the street level dealers) have pill presses with which they can mimic any Rx drug, oxycodone, Xanax, you name it - including the shape, color, and typical markings on the pills - but what the buyer is getting is fentanyl of varying and unknown strength. Even if the user IS intentionally seeking fentanyl, they never know what strength they are getting. These two factors account for the huge upsurge in OD deaths. Of course, if you don't seek out and use illicit/illegal drugs, you don't have a problem.

I know there are counterfeit pills that are on the street. As far as fentanyl goes I don't think anyone is intentionally buying it but it is used by unscrupulous dealers to cut what they are selling and to add an extra zing to it. After dealing with the drug problems in my own family I have no sympathy for addicts. They choose to use the stuff and spin the roulette wheel so to speak. My wife's niece died of an overdose and her family enabled her the entire way just as my mother and brother were codependent. The true bottom line is that if you don't play with the stuff it won't kill you. Chasing the dragon is a dangerous game with no positive outcome

 

[Sam Summey]

It's terrible what is going on with drugs in this country.
What really sucks is that we have an administration that does not care one bit.
They are just as big of scum bags as the ones that bring it over and sell it to our kids.

I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that the current POTUS and family were involved in the importation and distribution of illegal drugs in the US.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that the current POTUS and family were involved in the importation and distribution of illegal drugs in the US.

They are involved.
They are letting drugs come in by the ton , and do nothing to stop it.