Identify Pistol cartridge

[blume357]

So, Yesterday I find myself watching this dark crime drama with Brad Pitt called "Killing Them Softly" which as far as I can tell had no redeeming value other than to learn how to cuss more.... it is based on a book by George V. Higgins whom a number of you guys liked. Anywho, Pitt plays a mafia hit man hired to dispose of some guys and in his first hit for them he has a driver pull up beside his intended and shoots the guy numerous times in the head... it is actually a pretty impressive scene what the slow motion close ups of the semi-auto pistol cycling and ejecting and the rounds going through the victims driver's side window and taking him out.. my questions is what caliber pistol is this... I think it must be one of those Russian ones.... but I'm not up on them... here is picture of the spent necked down casings...



heck, if anybody is interested here is a link to the complete scene in high def on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy2JQ0HqCuk

 

[Dan in MI]

Is that one of the rounds for a Broomhandle Mauser?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.63%C3%9725mm_Mauser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.65%C3%9721mm_Parabellum

 

[blume357]

Was not a mauser he was shooting but some type of double/single action semi-auto....
I at first thought it might be a 30 caliber Luger round... but the cartridges look too long....

 

[Busterswoodshop]

I can't read the head stamp and am not sure how big it is , but it kind of looks like a 22 Hornet.
It could just be a movie prop.

 

[kmoore]

I am only making guesses. First is maybe a .357 sig? but neck looks to long. But, still could be if they were blanks they would have longer necks. Any idea or good photo of the gun that might help. Again being a movie the gun and cartridges may not be a real combo. I will say I like the directors who do close ups on flying brass, slides working etc with sound of the brass hitting and bouncing off the floor, add a little smoke around the gun and make the scene loud. Close ups of bullet impacts actually denting metal not blowing back out from a set charge on the surface. Now that's a gun fight.

 

[kmoore]

A hornet round is a good guess, I cannot tell if it is rimmed or not. I thought not.

 

[JFB]

I would guess a blank cartridge like this
https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-blank-prvi-partizan-1000-rounds

around 1:13 I "think" I see the crimped expelled case and a crimped round chambering

 

[Jeepnik]

Remember, these are blanks. Blanks tend to have longer necks and are crimped, look at the case mouth and you'll see the crimping. So it could be a .357 sig.

 

[blume357]

I think y'all are right about the ejected rounds being blanks... now that I've watched it again and again I think you can see the crimps on the end of the rounds as the fly by....
and so I'm going with 357 Sig and the slow motion shots are actually showing blanks being fired.

 

[daveg.inkc]

I think y'all are right about the ejected rounds being blanks... now that I've watched it again and again I think you can see the crimps on the end of the rounds as the fly by....
and so I'm going with 357 Sig and the slow motion shots are actually showing blanks being fired.

If Hollywood and Libs used live ammo,, they would thin the idiots out! “ Meet my little friend!” Is that what Scarface says?

 

[gunman42782]

The following weapons were used in the film Killing Them Softly:
Contents [hide]
1 Handguns
1.1 Glock 19
1.2 Charter Arms Bulldog
1.3 Smith & Wesson Model 66
1.4 Browning Hi-Power
1.5 Smith & Wesson Model 36
2 Shotguns
2.1 Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" (Surefire weaponlight)
2.2 Short barreled Side by Side (Sawed Off)
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Killing_Them_Softly

 

[Colonialgirl]

Based on that scene; Remind me to never bother to see that movie.

 

[blume357]

The language in the movie was way too over the top and most of the scenes were not to my liking... the only semi interesting part was the correlation they were trying to make between the countries economic crisis at the time and the same situation with organized crime.... it was funny at the end when Brad Pitt is meeting with the mob's councilor for the last time in a bar and Obama is making a campaign speech on the TV and Pitt tells the mob guy what Obama is going to say next.

I'm thinking from the above list of guns it was the Browning Highpower.

 

[kmoore]

With the added information, I choose to change my guess and say likely, to also certain those would be 9mm blanks. If they came out of any of the guns listed.

 

[blume357]

Which of course means it is a mistake in the movie... why they could not film the Browning High-Power firing real cartridges is a mystery to me....

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Probably filmed the closeup gun firing sequences in a very controlled setting to get the lighting and camera angles they wanted and really didn't need to have to worry about real bullets flying around. Likely fired and filmed a hundred rounds to get the few cuts they finally used. Good effects production, I'd say.

The movie doesn't appear to be of any particular interest to me, but I really like to see them do detailed, realistic gun work like this. Some details are a little off, but only us gunnies will note these.

JMHO

 

[tinman]

9mm blank from a Hi Power

 

[WAYNO]

Same process that makes these shotshells could be the same process that makes blanks that will easily chamber in the appropriate firearm.