I had a Missfire

[Chief_10Beers]

With one of my 357 Reloads. Primer fully struck. I pulled the Bullet and I had Powder. The CCI ( Lot # H13R ) Primer Failed to Ignite. This is one out of 2000 Cartridges I shot, All CCI, all the same Lot number.

I hand Prime all my Brass and I did atempt to Refire the Cartridge, no Joy........................

 

[mr surveyor]

I had one myself with CCi promer a couple of weeks ago..... took five strikes before it lit. I prefer win primers, but sometimes you gotta use what's available

 

[DGW1949]

I quit using CCI pistol primers back in the late 70's due to simular problems.
And beware of hangfires. They can be a "bit" more dangerous than fail to fires.

DGW

 

[Rclark]

I had my first one with CCI a couple of months ago. It was with a large primer (don't remember which caliber). Had to pull the bullet. Only one I've experienced over the years, except for 'light' hit problems of course (not the primer's problem). BTW, all I use is CCI, except when I can't get CCI, I'll use Federal or Winchester.

 

[volshooter]

When this happens to me I chuck the round. After the normal shooting session I give the dud a second chance. So far...... every round fired the second time. I have not had any primer issues in the last few years. I use mostly Winchester primers but have moved to Wolf primers. They are $10 less on the 1000. No problems so far using Wolf in the 9mm, .380, .38/.357 and .45LC.

 

[bigheaddaddy]

Had my very first FTF today, also with CCI Large Pistol primers. The 41 mag round was loaded with 8.5 grains of Unique and a Berry plated flat nose bullet.

No problem with the strike, but the round simply didn't fire. Tried it again later at the end of the session but it still wouldn't fire. Fired a total of 70 rounds today and this was the only problem.

I've loaded and fired over 3000 rounds in the past couple years, all with CCI primers, and this is my first problem.

It seems wierd when you pull the trigger on a reliable revolver and nothing happens.

 

[WESHOOT2]

Easy to blame the primer; harder to blame poor ammo construction, ay?

I have used uncountable CCI primers without incident. Other brands, too.....

 

[bigheaddaddy]

Not saying it couldn't be reloader error, and if it was, I'd like to know what I did wrong so I don't repeat the mistake.

The primer appeared to be seated at the proper depth, the indention in the primer after the strike looked normal, and the revolver has fired many rounds with no problems. I fired 25 more rounds (all I had with me) after the misfire alternating between single and double action and had no more problems.

I try to keep good reloading records, but it never occurred to me to record the lot numbers of each component, but I will begin doing so with my next reloading campaign.

 

[Dale53]

I got a new set Dillon dies, some time ago. I discovered (right away, thank goodness) that the decapping pin was "holding on" to the decapped primer and I was resetting it. The thing that tipped me off was the "feel" wasn't normal. I was loading on a 550B and the primer decapped, stuck on the decapping pin, then the NEW primer pushed the old primer back into the shell.

Once I identified the problem, I called Dillon. The tech suggested I remove the decapping stem and, very carefully, just break the corner of the decapping pin point on my belt sander. You sure don't want to make a point on it, just slightly round off the corners of the point.

The tech was spot on. NO more problems with several thousand loaded without incident.

I mention this as just a remote possibility. The tech was familiar with the problem so others have run into this.

FWIW
Dale53

 

[Ale-8(1)]

I have had so few "failure to bang" episodes I cannot even recall how many . . . must be less than a half-dozen or so over the last forty years.

I just assume that nothing is ever PERFECT and move along. The failure percentage is so tiny it's not worth considering.

Of course, I never use reloads for "serious" application, either.

And that said, I have recently had a few failures with S&B 9mm in my Hi-Power, and have heard from others that this is not necessarily uncommon. So I just don't use S&B in the HP . . . works fine in the Glock. The HP handles everything else just fine.

JMHO

 

[Rclark]

Of course, I never use reloads for "serious" application, either.

I'd trust my reloads over any factory ammo. Period. Each one is individually loaded and personally checked.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

And you can carefully do everything absolutely right and still have a primer failure.

So we need further statistics to see if reloads are more "reliable" than factory stuff over the long haul.

My recent experience with S&B only proves that some guns don't like some ammo . . . or vice-versa.

JMHO

 

[Rclark]

And you can carefully do everything absolutely right and still have a primer failure.

Absolutely . No argument there. Same with factory though as they use the same primers we do..... It is just each one of mine (and I am sure yours) that is reloaded is inspected during each stage of creating a round. Each one is crafted to shoot well in mine/your particular revolver/auto. Just seems logical (to me) that a hand loaded round 'should' be more reliable/possibly more accurate than a mass produced factory round.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Possibly. But the point in question here is the reliability of primers, and they are something over which we have no control . . . except installing them without contaminating or damaging the ignition compound.

Granted that my reloads are much more reliable in my Hi-Power than the particular bunch of S&B ammo I have. I actually see that as more of a gun-related issue than an ammo-related issue, but it's worth considering.

No question that it's possible to "home brew" loads that equal or surpass "factory" ammo performance in specific guns. That's one of the benefits of "rolling your own". In my case, it's the economy of the thing, enhanced by the fact that I bought a BUNCH of components quite a while ago before the pricees went up.

Unfortunately, I'll be needing to re-stock primers, and I'm curious about further discussion of their relative reliability. FWIW, I use CCI's, purchased quite a while ago.

 

[Rclark]

I'm curious about further discussion of their relative reliability

I haven't seen any 'test' data on the subject. Always have seen just "Well, I have had good luck with primer X".... or some such.... As for me, I've only seen one actual failure in my lifetime so far.... no biggie....

 

[EDK]

I had misfires with one of the BISLEY VAQUEROS yesterday. The second hit fired off on all of them. Primer seating looked OK...DILLON 550B. I run a brush through the chambers after every range session, but hadn't use a patch and solvent in a long time; so I tried that and got a lot of gunk out of the chambers. 100% ignition this evening. (It's in the mid 90s and I shoot either first thing in the morning or just before sunset. Sweat in your eyes don't help much!)

Sometimes you overlook the obvious. How many times have you heard that 90% of firearms malfunctions can be fixed by a thorough cleaning and lubrication.

 

[#1rugerman]

If you still have the case & primmer put to case in a vise or use a pair of vice grip pliers take it outside or in a safe place and heat the primmer with a propane torch, this will tell you if you have a good primmer pellet then you have to figure out if the anvil in the primmer is there or not. Or just forget about it and get on with your life.