I can't believe you need a license for snow shoveling.

[exavid]

I'm so grateful I don't live on the East Coast. While Oregon is slowly disappearing under a blue blanket we haven't gotten that bad yet. Why in our rural counties we've split ranks with New Jersey and now allow patrons to pump their own gas in their cars after hours. Imagine that!
But we haven't gotten to the point New Jersey has. Believe it or not we still allow kids to shovel sidewalks for a few bucks. AND THEY DON'T EVEN NEED A LICENSE OR PERMIT TO DO IT! Can you imagine that?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/21/in-advance-big-storm-new-jersey-lifts-licensing-laws-for-shoveling-snow.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fmost-popular+%28Internal+-+Most+Popular+Content%29

 

[Pat-inCO]

The bill removes only licensing requirements for snow shoveling services, and only applies to solicitations made within 24 hours before a predicted snow storm. Towns with laws prohibiting door-to-door solicitation will be able to enforce those laws in all other circumstances.

I think I see where they are coming from but do you . . . . . . . .
have to get a permit to fart?

 

[Bull Barrel]

You might need to have a cat-con installed.....

 

[SamV]

Well, actually the license is for soliciting to shovel snow. They don't want any teenagers or down on their luck people going door to door without that $450 permit. I am sure they had some good reasons for that rule that most everyone would roll their eyes over. Let me guess a few. Liability? What if the kid slipped on your steps and broke a bone? What if the homeless guy had a heart attack while shoveling? What if the kid scratches your car with the shovel? Or moron manages to do something really stupid with a snow blower. What about the effect on the poor licensed professional snow guys being undercut by uninsured, unlicensed amatuer ten year olds?
On a somewhat related note. My kids and I cut my next door neighbors grass and shoveled her sidewalks for years. She was elderly and it was our way of being a good neighbor. In the earlier years she insisted on paying. I said no but she insisted. So she paid about half of the time, many times she wasn't aware that it was done. How much did she give me or the kids. Usually $5 or $10. It was more work than my own house. I know I spent more on gas, oil line for the trimmer etc than the pay. The yard guys in the area would get $50 plus for that job. We continued it on through her declining health and death, visiting her daily in hospitals, nursing homes, and hospice for half a year.
During this period, a distant family member came in to review the situation. He asked details about the yard care and was astounded at my kids good works. He said that would pay the kids more. A couple of days later, he changed his mind as his attorney said no. The attorney advised him to only hire licensed insured and bonded professionals for everything, no matter how small. And he did hiring a lawn service. Fine with me. We were only doing it as good neighbors, you know, that sort of spiritual and corporal works of mercy stuff.After her passing, we did not feel obligated to continue anyway.
Back to the stupid law, don't you know we need protection and guidance for every possible thing? I recall one informal remark that President O, said years ago either shortly before or after election. When questioned on the role of government, he stated something to the effect, that there was probably no area of our life that government could not improve.

 

[ronto]

Brings back memories of the old days when I and my buddies were preteens and shoveled snow in the neighborhood for 50 cents an hour. :)

 

[Bull Barrel]

Funny...a license is required but is insurance?
If not, why the license?
The city wants their "tribute". They learned well from their m o b associates.

 

[sliclee]

Vote for KRISPY he has many new $$ laws
When dad said, "shovel the snow" the first time, I tried to make believe I was deaf. I then, got the foot shove, no sound.
Tried to move way, NOW! I looked at mom for help,she wAS LAUGHING at me. Im going to die out there,SO DIE,MOVE.
Outside I got involved in snowball fight and that cruel man came outside, I knew it when the kids stopped throwing snow
balls at me. His big foot again. There was no 911 then like my kids did to me ONCE.
Who else out there built a small fort for protection and storage of ammo,snowballs, lasted almost all winter.
I couldn't use his shovel, was too big ah ha he got a smaller one for me, wasn't he nice. Wonderful days.

 

[Zorba]

Only in America.

 

[RugerHound]

Aw hell... They're shutting down lemonade stands anymore. Then they wonder why young folks have no interest in being entrepreneurs. I am completely disgusted with America anymore.

 

[exavid]

I feel sorry for the kids today. I had a Kool Ade stand on summer, mowed lawns in summer for several years as a kid, delivered TV Guide and the Los Angeles Mirror on my bicycle for a couple years. Tried to sell that Clover brand salve for a month or so. Set bowling pins for a year until automated out of a job. Never did sell enough to get one of those great prizes they always showed in the back of comic books. Carried bags out to cars from the grocery store. Learned a lot from all these jobs, especially how many adults would try to stiff a kid.

 

[protoolman]

I remember selling Grit newspapers to travellers at our airport. They didn't even ask me to get a license to sell on airport property. And I could go into the screened area on the other side of the metal detector without being searched.

 

[Rancher Will]

Bull Barrel has it right. Such licenses are only for the revenue and political control desired by the government. They have no other reason for existing. In fact they are harmful.

 

[Kevin]

SamV has a few valid points. Overall I can see the law just out there trying to prevent door to door selling. Around here, sometimes, the door to door sales pitch is just a scam to see what is available to steal or where they can break in later. Yes, that happens in my neighborhood a lot. So yeah, if that law keeps that element away, good, and if it keeps vagrants from wanting to shovel snow away too, well good... But honestly, if you live in the neighborhood and need a neighborhood kid to shovel your drive, that will happen and you know it.

Much like SamV, my brother and I always shoveled the neighbors house across the street too. I don't think we ever got paid either. Funny, we didn't shovel our own drive though, just theirs.

 

[blackhawknj]

A few years ago the Wall Street Journal had a good story on a young woman (black)-a high school student. To finance her ambition to attend a good hairdressing/beauticians school she started a small trade, mostly visiting local shut-ins who couldn't get out, she was very careful only to offer treatments she had already studied and mastered. There was quacking by the local authorities that she didn't have the required licenses and as a teenager she was too young to apply for them, the WSJ pointed out that if we want to encourage our young people to get an education, learn trades and professions and the skills they require we shouldn't be putting obstacles in their path. IIRC they came up with some sort of "student's license".

 

[GP100]

and if it keeps vagrants from wanting to shovel snow away too, well good...

Amazing..

People need a permit to shovel snow. But they seem to not be required to reproduce.

 

[DeletedMember275]

and if it keeps vagrants from wanting to shovel snow away too, well good...

Amazing..

People need a permit to shovel snow. But they seem to not be required to reproduce.

Or vote.

 

[pete44ru]

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Young folks want a "no-fault" life...................


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