How long will my Security 380 last?

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A fellow on my church security team suggested to me that spending as much time as I am now as a new shooter, at the range will wear my gun out. So how many rounds typically can you run through a Security 380, provided I clean it regularly and don’t abuse it. Can I put 10,000 rounds through it before it becomes a paper weight?
 
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After 5-10,000 you should probably evaluate thoroughly. Replacement springs, extractors and firing pins are available.
All good comments, well not all but mostly. I’m coming on 2,000 rounds in the first two months and now that I’m not using RN, it shoots flawless. I’ll report in again at 5,000 and 10,000. I will replace certain parts down the triad a ways. Right now this gun is excellent for my purposes.
 
Well, I’m a reloader so that helps but even as a reloader, I’m going through a thousand rounds a month at a reloading cost of fifteen cents a round so that’s about $150 a month to try to become proficient enough to carry concealed all the time.
$150 per month for ammo and how many hours does it take to reload and shoot 1000 rds. I admire your dedication to proficiency but I hope you’re mixing up the training and not just popping paper at 21 ft. What are your expectations in proficiency?

The Kentucky CCW proficiency test consists of a written exam and a live-fire marksmanship test, both of which are part of an approved firearms safety course
. The marksmanship test requires at least 11 hits out of 20 shots on a silhouette target from 7 yards (21 feet) away, and the written portion is a 25-question multiple-choice test.
Respectfully
Mark
 
I got my CCW permit four years ago but living in a very small mountain town I didn’t carry, just kept a 38 snubby in my nightstand. Now I’m moving to the Denver area, one of the sanctuary cities riddled with armed gangs ( number one in the nation for armed car jackings ) so I’m going to carry, that’s my mission. I am currently able to put six shots in a five inch circle from seven yards in eight seconds from appendix IWB. I can put three shots from three yards in four seconds in that same five inch circle. I want to get both times down to six seconds and three seconds, respectively. I can put all shots in the A zone from ten, fifteen and twenty yards, provided I slow down. At that distance I’m only interested in accuracy. Seven yards and under, I need more speed with accuracy. That’s what I’m working on.
 
I can't add to what has been said for the durability of the gun, but i might suggest that you add to your practice, IDPA competition. I did that myself for cheap tactical training. Never had enough money in the same place & time to take Front Sight or Gun Sight training. I didn't go all out to win the matches, but to practice SD scenarios. I shot for accuracy, on multiple targets, so I had the slowest times. Speed started to get better, but I was was interested more realistic practice than punching holes in paper. And it was fun. Learned a lot from people who had different experiences. Former & active military & police.
Just my $.02 for WIW.
 
I can't add to what has been said for the durability of the gun, but i might suggest that you add to your practice, IDPA competition. I did that myself for cheap tactical training. Never had enough money in the same place & time to take Front Sight or Gun Sight training. I didn't go all out to win the matches, but to practice SD scenarios. I shot for accuracy, on multiple targets, so I had the slowest times. Speed started to get better, but I was was interested more realistic practice than punching holes in paper. And it was fun. Learned a lot from people who had different experiences. Former & active military & police.
Just my $.02 for WIW.
Python, I hope to do that as soon as I get the Front Range ( east side of the Rocky Mountains). Hoping that there is IDPA groups there with regular meet-ups, training and matches.
 
It’s not about how fast you can shoot, it’s about accuracy and tactics. Have you taken any classes? The right classes could save your life or keep you out of jail yourself.
Add to that just resizing, putting in a primer, adding powder, and a bullet isn’t all it takes. Having your brass grow on you, could cause a jamb.
There’s a lot more to church security than just shooting.
I don’t have a single doubt that gun can handle 5000 rounds, and wouldn’t be surprised at all, if it could handle 10,000 or more. By that time it’s not just about the gun, there’s the springs, magazines and various other parts.
Truth is that’s way more than 80% of guns will ever see.
Perfect practice gives perfect results. If you make the same mistake over and over you don’t improve. An experienced instructor can watch you and pick up things that will doing wrong. Skills that are taught today are different than what was taught 20 years ago. Thus the class and instruction.
 
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It’s not about how fast you can shoot, it’s about accuracy and tactics. Have you taken any classes? The right classes could save your life or keep you out of jail yourself.
Add to that just resizing, putting in a primer, adding powder, and a bullet isn’t all it takes. Having your brass grow on you, could cause a jamb.
There’s a lot more to church security than just shooting.
I don’t have a single doubt that gun can handle 5000 rounds, and wouldn’t be surprised at all, if it could handle 10,000 or more.
Truth is that’s way more than 80% of guns will ever see.
Perfect practice gives perfect results. If you make the same mistake over and over you don’t improve. An experienced instructor can watch you and pick up things that will doing wrong. Skills that are taught today are different than what was taught 20 years ago. Thus the class and instruction.
I live in a mountain town of 1200 people so no classes here, but I’m hoping someone on this forum will know about IDPA in the Denver area so they can advise me. As to current training, I train two days a week for two hours each time with an NRA certified instructor who spent 35 years in law enforcement. I spend four days practicing what he tells me to work on. He’s working me pretty hard and very thoroughly. I’m also doing on-line classes through CCW Safe, my CC insurer. I’m hoping to jump into some classes and IDPA when I get to the Denver area in two weeks.
Anybody on this forum know about IDPA in the Denver/Colorado Springs area?
 
I can't add to what has been said for the durability of the gun, but i might suggest that you add to your practice, IDPA competition. I did that myself for cheap tactical training. Never had enough money in the same place & time to take Front Sight or Gun Sight training. I didn't go all out to win the matches, but to practice SD scenarios. I shot for accuracy, on multiple targets, so I had the slowest times. Speed started to get better, but I was was interested more realistic practice than punching holes in paper. And it was fun. Learned a lot from people who had different experiences. Former & active military & police.
Just my $.02 for WIW.
This^^^^after a year of IDPA I was able to put both rounds on the turning target, in the box, at 7 1/2 yards, from the hip in .23 seconds with a stock Walther P99. But I did compete bullseye for years prior, so had one handed shooting pretty much down.

OP, I would suggest getting a little bit more serious on the choice of weapon. Get an RXM. But, you have to stay with a .380 for some reason, and you are going to shoot that many rounds, Get a Walther PP or PPK or PPK/S. Those guns will last for decades and thousands upon thousands of rounds. Even in .32, with today’s ammo, you can do good.

Bit a 9MM would be better, that’s why zi say RXN. Or Glock 19.
 
It’s not about how fast you can shoot, it’s about accuracy and tactics. Have you taken any classes? The right classes could save your life or keep you out of jail yourself.
Add to that just resizing, putting in a primer, adding powder, and a bullet isn’t all it takes. Having your brass grow on you, could cause a jamb.
There’s a lot more to church security than just shooting.
I don’t have a single doubt that gun can handle 5000 rounds, and wouldn’t be surprised at all, if it could handle 10,000 or more. By that time it’s not just about the gun, there’s the springs, magazines and various other parts.
Truth is that’s way more than 80% of guns will ever see.
Perfect practice gives perfect results. If you make the same mistake over and over you don’t improve. An experienced instructor can watch you and pick up things that will doing wrong. Skills that are taught today are different than what was taught 20 years ago. Thus the class and instruction.
Also, make sure the church is supplying your ammo. That’s the least they can do, especially if you aren’t;t being paid.
 
This^^^^after a year of IDPA I was able to put both rounds on the turning target, in the box, at 7 1/2 yards, from the hip in .23 seconds with a stock Walther P99. But I did compete bullseye for years prior, so had one handed shooting pretty much down.

OP, I would suggest getting a little bit more serious on the choice of weapon. Get an RXM. But, you have to stay with a .380 for some reason, and you are going to shoot that many rounds, Get a Walther PP or PPK or PPK/S. Those guns will last for decades and thousands upon thousands of rounds. Even in .32, with today’s ammo, you can do good.

Bit a 9MM would be better, that’s why zi say RXN. Or Glock 19.
I bought a Walther CCP M2 9mm recently and will begin to use it this week. It’s concealable, shoots really well, so we’ll see. Saw an Echelon 4.0 comp at the range the other day. That looks like an awesome pistol too.
 
For Church Duty I would definitely go with an Optic or a well tuned laser. Being able to see dot shoot dot is so much faster and more precise than lining up sights ever could be. Definitely practice every scenario but as I get older I need more "Aids" to keep up.
 
For Church Duty I would definitely go with an Optic or a well tuned laser. Being able to see dot shoot dot is so much faster and more precise than lining up sights ever could be. Definitely practice every scenario but as I get older I need more "Aids" to keep up.
Haven’t tried an optic yet but looking forward to that soon. I’m 76 so I can use all the aid I can find as well.
 
Haven’t tried an optic yet but looking forward to that soon. I’m 76 so I can use all the aid I can find as well.
Remember in almost any scenario you will be shooting over or between people you care about! I wouldn't carry anything I wouldn't "Take the Shot" over my Grandchild with. Practice "Hostage" drills with obstructed targets while moving to get any realistic measure of your abilities to do this. These are my 3 levels of carry. Pocket, IWB/Shoulder, OWB/Shoulder. I can maintain 2" at 25yds with 1 second or so splits and 300yd steel isn't a problem for the big one.
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Remember in almost any scenario you will be shooting over or between people you care about! I wouldn't carry anything I wouldn't "Take the Shot" over my Grandchild with. Practice "Hostage" drills with obstructed targets while moving to get any realistic measure of your abilities to do this. These are my 3 levels of carry. Pocket, IWB/Shoulder, OWB/Shoulder. I can maintain 2" at 25yds with 1 second or so splits and 300yd steel isn't a problem for the big one.View attachment 86584
Two inch circle at 25 yds in one second! Now that’s serious skill. I can’t imagine ever getting to that level. Not even sure I could see a two inch circle from 25 yds! Nevertheless, I know I can improve from where I’m at today, if I’m willing to put in the time at the range and dry firing at home.
 
#1 be willing to buy replacement parts. I do (PM) preventative maintenance on my handguns that are for SD. I would rather replace parts before they break or fail.
#2 buy a spare, test fire it to make sure it works 100% and then put it away.
I have a Glock 22, that's a full size .40 S&W. Used it for about 15 years, carried it fulltime. Rain, snow, sunshine and nighttime. I replaced the trigger group, recoil spring, firing pin, night sights. None broke but PM, there are 15,000 to maybe 20,000 rounds through that gun. (night sights: Tritium sights go to about half brightness at about 10 years). That's the most fired handgun I own. I have other SD handguns and treat those the same.
 
#1 be willing to buy replacement parts. I do (PM) preventative maintenance on my handguns that are for SD. I would rather replace parts before they break or fail.
#2 buy a spare, test fire it to make sure it works 100% and then put it away.
I have a Glock 22, that's a full size .40 S&W. Used it for about 15 years, carried it fulltime. Rain, snow, sunshine and nighttime. I replaced the trigger group, recoil spring, firing pin, night sights. None broke but PM, there are 15,000 to maybe 20,000 rounds through that gun. (night sights: Tritium sights go to about half brightness at about 10 years). That's the most fired handgun I own. I have other SD handguns and treat those the same.
Great advice and I’ll take it. I’ll get another back up 9mm shortly. Thank you!
 
Two inch circle at 25 yds in one second! Now that’s serious skill. I can’t imagine ever getting to that level. Not even sure I could see a two inch circle from 25 yds! Nevertheless, I know I can improve from where I’m at today, if I’m willing to put in the time at the range and dry firing at home.
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The top group was 5rnds under 2 seconds. Bottom group was 5rnds under 6 seconds at 25yds. Being able to see dot shoot dot makes it so much easier!!!
 
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