House gun...

[Heliman]

For awhile now I have been looking for a reliable less expensive replacement for my nightstand/house gun. This is a single purpose firearm that would see some range time but not a carry piece. It would need to have a tactical rail for mounting a light/laser. Chambering would be in 9mm with a minimum 15 round magazine capacity. Price in the $300 range.

I had settled on offerings from Ruger, S&W, and Springfield to name a few. By circumstance I settled on a Springfield XD MOD 2 Tactical 9mm with a 5” barrel. The owner never fired it and was recently diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s disease and was selling off some of his guns. The price was at my $300 price point so I bought it. I had some experience with an XD9 which I bought back when they came out. It was reliable and accurate so it made me more confident to purchase this one.



Does anyone here have experience with this platform? I would appreciate any feedback.
Dave

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

Dave, I've got no experience with Springfield Armory when it comes to the XD's. A friend of mine had a couple of them he took to Front sight and loved them. One became his carry gun. He especially liked the part in the back (grip safety) that kept the gun from firing, if you didn't have it pushed in correctly. Personally, that's the part I don't care for, but to each his own. They were still very reliable guns. That's what counts. The company is a very stand up company.

 

[Mike J]

No experience with the Model 2. I bought a XD-40 back in 2007 & sold it back at the beginning of the year. There is a forum called XDTalk. If you don't get the feedback you are looking for here you could probably dig around over there & find out anything you want to know.

 

[Heliman]

No experience with the Model 2. I bought a XD-40 back in 2007 & sold it back at the beginning of the year. There is a forum called XDTalk. If you don't get the feedback you are looking for here you could probably dig around over there & find out anything you want to know.

Thanks! I went over there and folks seem to like it very much. Most of those folks are like us Ruger guys. They do have a brand prejudice, but that’s to be expected. I will get it to the range soon and see how she performs for me.....

Dave

 

[6GUNSONLY]

I had a first generation XD-9 several years ago and found it completely reliable and a good shooter. I wish I had not sold it. I much prefer the XD series to Glocks, just my personal taste. None of the Tupperware pistols are particularly handsome, but I find the XDs to have a more pleasing line than most of the sort, with the S&w close second.

 

[Rook]

My youngest son has carried a subcompact 9mm XD for several years now and he likes it a lot. It has been 100 percent reliable since it was taken out of the box new.

My bedside gun is a Winchester riot pump 12 ga. shotgun along with my S&W 340PD .357 Mag. snubby on my nightstand.

 

[Heliman]

Well, I finally got this “house gun” to the range. I was pleased with the function and accuracy. I shot a wide variety of ammo through it including 115, 124, and 147gr. I shot about 150 rounds with nary a hiccup. WAYNO was there to help also. I think it will serve it’s intended purpose perfectly!

Dave

 

[WAYNO]

I gots to say...I've never given these even a glance, ever. I figured one plastic pistol is as good as another.

I was exceedingly surprised and pleased with Dave's new gun today. First, I don't think I've ever handled any similar guns that fit me any better than this one, and it was surprisingly accurate.

My eyes have been opened. :shock:

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

Well, if you two like it, I may have to rethink my position on them. Course the deal Dave got was pretty special, so that would help. I may have to let you boys, try my cheap carry gun. :mrgreen:

 

[WAYNO]

Well, if you two like it, I may have to rethink my position on them. Course the deal Dave got was pretty special, so that would help. I may have to let you boys, try my cheap carry gun. :mrgreen:

Ya know...Since my Ruger 10mm blew up, I've been trying to find a suitable (to me) 10mm pistol to replace it. Since the XD series includes a couple 10mm's, they could be a viable option.:mrgreen:

 

[Poco Oso]

I bought my, soon-to-be ex wife, an XD Mod.2 sub compact for Christmas two years ago. I liked it so well, I bought one for myself. Nice little pistol. Accurate and reliable. I sure do miss it. :wink:

 

[Johnnu2]

Several years ago, I traded my Glock 36 for a Springfield Armory XDS in 45ACP.... They make it in 45 and 9mm..... It feels SO much better in my hand and is frightenly accurate. It's a keeper for me albeit, the new Sig 365 in 9mm is, again, an amazingly accurate gun.... Too many guns; too little time........
J

 

[Heliman]

Well, if you two like it, I may have to rethink my position on them. Course the deal Dave got was pretty special, so that would help. I may have to let you boys, try my cheap carry gun. :mrgreen:

Ya know...Since my Ruger 10mm blew up, I've been trying to find a suitable (to me) 10mm pistol to replace it. Since the XD series includes a couple 10mm's, they could be a viable option.:mrgreen:

I looked on the Springfield website and it looks like that 10mm might be pretty durable. They claimed to have fired 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammo through the XD(M) with no failures. Maintenance included one recoil spring change and lubrication. Heck, they didn’t even clean the darn thing! Might be worth looking at. I noticed the grip configuration is different than the MOD2.

 

[blume357]

My only suggestion is to take that light off of that pistol, just my personal opinion.

 

[Heliman]

My only suggestion is to take that light off of that pistol, just my personal opinion.

I am open to all suggestions. Why remove the light? I am interested in your opinion. :wink:

 

[GunnyGene]

My only suggestion is to take that light off of that pistol, just my personal opinion.

I would agree with that. Probably for the same reasons you do.

 

[Heliman]

My only suggestion is to take that light off of that pistol, just my personal opinion.

I would agree with that. Probably for the same reasons you do.

Hey, I want to know the reasons too!

 

[GunnyGene]

My only suggestion is to take that light off of that pistol, just my personal opinion.

I would agree with that. Probably for the same reasons you do.

Hey, I want to know the reasons too!

Ok. For starters, it would be something else you would have to think about in a situation that doesn't give you a lot of time to think. Lights can be useful IF you are trained on when NOT to light things up - like any reflective surfaces that would light you up. Depending on how your house is laid out there are alternatives to a gunlight, such as motion detecting lights that are aimed at likely avenues of approach to your position - there are readily available battery operated stick on lights that don't cost much. Even a tossed chemlight towards the bad guy is a better option imho; and unless you absolutely have to do any kind of room clearing, staying in a covered position and letting him come to you is a much better tactic - don't make it easy for the BG to target you - he's going to spray and pray and might get lucky. :shock:

 

[Heliman]

Well, I wouldn't use the gun light typically. I also will be using this firearm as equipped when boondock camping in the woods with the RV. The light would be handy for that situation with 4 legged critters foraging in camp. Trust me, I ain't looking for a fight and this pistol is for defense period. For me the light is not an issue. And, I really appreciate the input and welcome it!

Dave

 

[exavid]

When I read the title of this thread I was thinking 105 Howitzer but then I realized...

 

[toysoldier]

Gun---singular?

 

[Heliman]

Gun---singular?

There may......or may not be others......at various times. 8) Don't want to reveal anymore than that. :wink: This would be on my nightstand.

 

[WAYNO]

I looked on the Springfield website and it looks like that 10mm might be pretty durable. They claimed to have fired 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammo through the XD(M) with no failures. Maintenance included one recoil spring change and lubrication. Heck, they didn’t even clean the darn thing! Might be worth looking at. I noticed the grip configuration is different than the MOD2.

Ten thousand rounds of anything could be considered a successful torture test, but on the other hand, the Federal Hydra Shok load is just a .40 S&W load in a 10mm case. If they would have done the same test with the Federal Vital Shok load that blew up my Ruger, then that'd be a torture test. :shock:

And yes, the XDM 10mm has a different grip configuration than yours. I would have to physically try the fit before I would spring for one.

 

[Heliman]

I looked on the Springfield website and it looks like that 10mm might be pretty durable. They claimed to have fired 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammo through the XD(M) with no failures. Maintenance included one recoil spring change and lubrication. Heck, they didn’t even clean the darn thing! Might be worth looking at. I noticed the grip configuration is different than the MOD2.

Ten thousand rounds of anything could be considered a successful torture test, but on the other hand, the Federal Hydra Shok load is just a .40 S&W load in a 10mm case. If they would have done the same test with the Federal Vital Shok load that blew up my Ruger, then that'd be a torture test. :shock:

And yes, the XDM 10mm has a different grip configuration than yours. I would have to physically try the fit before I would spring for one.

Over at the “XDtalk” forum they talk about the factory recoil spring being 19lbs. With that spring the cases of heavy loads are ejected about 30 ft where the powder puff loads are about 20 feet. Many of the folks there talk about installing a Wolf 22# spring when shooting the hot stuff. With this spring the eject distance is less, but is still adequate to effectively handle lighter loads with no less reliability.

The one thing that stands out with this platform is that the functional reliability is remarkably consistent with very few if any failures.

With the exception of my Sig P220 10mm all other platforms I have tested have had many functional issues particularly with high power loads. After all if it doesn’t go bang every time it is worthless in my opinion

 

[blume357]

Okay, here is why I would never have light on a gun, handgun or rifle. One of the cardinal rules in safe gun handling is to only aim / point the weapon at something you plan to destroy. Say you hear a bump in the night and you grab this 'house' gun and start waling around in the dark with it and turn the light on so you can see... now you are using the gun as a flash light and pointing it all over the place. Keep in mind your heart is racing and you are not at your best.... you walk around the corner and suddenly someone jumps up in front of your light... heaven forbid you've broken another safe gun handling rule and have your finger on the trigger. I think you can see where I'm going with this.

Many years ago I had one of the weirdest things happen.... I had someone jump out at me like that and I saw an entirely different person that who it was.... it took about 3 seconds for them in my vision to actually 'morph' back into who they actually were.

Now, even though I don't like or think one should rely on electronics on a gun I do like lasers and red dots.

 

[Heliman]

"Now, even though I don't like or think one should rely on electronics on a gun I do like lasers and red dots"

Well, you don't point lasers at folks either....... I would NEVER point a gun at a person unless it were to avert a threat or defend myself. If needed, it can be enabled, but it is only on the pistol as a tool. Again, I appreciate the opinions, but am fully aware of my responsibilities. Many years of handling firearms and the responsiblilty that entails is paramount.

 

[exavid]

A red dot is good in that well made ones like the Burris Fastfire don't give themselves away. The target won't see the red dot. One disadvantage is that picking up the dot and getting it on the target quickly isn't as easy in the dark. With a laser you can keep your eyes focused on the target but of course it gives your location away. I had a S&W M&P .45 with glow in the dark dots on the sights. That was good in the dark. It was the kind of glow in the dark dots that don't need to be light soaked to work. But I preferred a smaller caliber in the house not to mention I didn't want to be penetrating outside walls either.

 

[blume357]

I have to say the gun I carry has a laser on it and after sighting it in I am more accurate with it than with the iron sights.... but I would never totally rely on the laser. The one pistol I currently have a red dot on I would not carry, it is only a competition type gun but with it you can still use the iron sights. This is a Sig P320 with the factory Romeo sights on it. Shot a perfect score on the test at Front Sight this past year, but a friend said I really cheated with this gun. What I learned is that to acquire a target fast with it I use the iron sights first and then fine tune with the red dot. I also have a laser on my Sig Mk-25 (one of those over marketed 'Navy Seal' guns) I have yet to sight it in... but this Sig hangs by my 'back' door.

 

[bogus bill]

I did 35 years as a armed guard. 32 of those was working graveyard. I never carried any type of night sight but can see the advantage of one so bought this s&w 66-3 with tritium night sight. They do lose their glow. I dont want extras hanging on my revolvers nor do I want to give my position away with a red light.

 

[exavid]

Very clean, pretty snubby.