HELP picking a GPS hand held unit

4kdave

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My problem is I don't know much about GPS units except how they work from the satellites. What I am wanting is a hand held unit with Topo maps so when I go out on my ATV here in CO I won't get lost. I don't know if units come with maps or you have to buy them and can one unit do what I want and also give highway directions.

Any advice would be appreciated
Dave
 
The NPS in Alaska gave a seminar on GPS and their use. They recommend Garmin. The ones with the topo's will work for roads also, though not as efficiently as the one for the car. Good luck.
gramps
 
Dave - not sure if this helps - I'm betting there are a bunch of great dedicated products out there - but I used an application called Navionics. I installed it on my smart phone. That and Google Maps - I had to work hard at getting lost.

I used Navionics for ice fishing - it included topo maps (lake bottoms) and I could also mark and return to locations. I also used it out in the woods.

Something to remember about any of this stuff: it's only as good as your signal! I'd always keep a compass and a paper map handy regardless!

Hope this helps - and stay safe!!
 
Thanks guys, I was looking at Garmin...still living in the "Dark Ages" as I don't have a cel phone. Hard of hearing (use hearing aids) and they never worked for me even with Bluetooth.
 
Definitely Garmin. I have two GPSmap 60csx's. Of course they are no longer made, but the 62 series would be the closest equivalent. I would go with the 62s(pre-loaded base map) or 62st(pre-loaded topo map). Rugged, good battery life, and reasonably intuitive to operate(but I still keep the manual close to hand).

My two cents worth.

twerpy.
 
Hi,

Just personal opinion, Dave, but I think a lot depends on how well you can navigate "on your own" as with map and compass, and your budget.

The better you are with map and compass, the simpler the unit CAN be, since it's only "real" job is to tell you "You are here" like the maps in the malls and such. I emphasize "can" because a lot of folks can, but prefer not to have to switch back and forth. That's up to the user!

And, budget will determine some of what will interest you.

Since I'm reasonably able with map and compass, and extremely frugal when it comes to purchasing stuff that needs batteries to breathe, my "hiking" GPS is one of the most basic Garmin eTrex models, the little yellow one that's been around for years, and is still not far off the $100 mark. It tells me where I am, can hold waypoints (or more simply known, "coordinates"), and do some basic plotting if I tell it what I want it to do. It has no maps, and has no facility to install them. With software available both from Garmin and third party sources, I can upload or download data from it, which is helpful when transferring waypoints to my auto GPS, also a Garmin.

That same "family" of eTrex units has some which do have maps, both road and topo. As gramps noted, they're not as good as your auto unit for traveling down the road, but will get you over the hills and thru the woods just fine. A lot of them offer a pretty fair selection of maps. Prices will approach $200 or better for that series depending on the bells and whistles count.

From there, the Garmin GPS 60 unit mentioned has been one of the top ones out there since its inception. It's popular among geocachers, which I suppose is a way of saying it will do just about anything you want it to do. It's been replaced, first by the 62, and now the 64 series, and I dunno what the new ones have the original didn't except maybe a bigger and better color screen option, and perhaps greater storage? Some units will accept SD or MicroSD cards for additional storage, and I'd find that to be a selling point. You're now skirting around $300-$350 or better, depending on the vendor.

Garmin also has an "Oregon" series. They seem to be at the high end of the pricing schedule, but I'm not sure exactly what they offer that can't be had for less.

Be sure to check prices all over because they can vary tremendously for the very same unit! A lot of info can be had here: http://www.thegpsstore.com and there are others if you do a search for "gps store." Items that would be on my own personal "compare" list would start with screen info: black &white vs color, and size. B&W is fine for numbers only, but any mapping will probably be easier to use in color, and the larger the screen, the easier it should be to see. Then there's memory: is it built in or removable, or both, and what kind is it if removable? SD cards and Micro SD cards are most common. Both work fine but you may have a preference (I like SDs simply cuz I've got a raft of 'em and hardly any Micros!)

Look at battery life and type of battery. Bigger screens, color, and lots of map work eat batteries faster than their smaller, simpler counterparts. And some units have built in rechargeable batteries, others use removable AAs or AAAs. All you've gotta have happen once is to be out in the woods and have your proprietary rechargeable go dead to understand why I like AAs! And then there are maps: who has what you want, and at what price? Garmin is sometimes particularly painful in this department: they've usually got whatever you might want, but you may have to trade 'em your first born for some of them. Yet at other times you'll find maps nearly for free! There's no rhyme nor reason there.

And while Garmin has pretty much got the market locked up right now, they're not perfect, and my experience with their customer service says they've still got things to learn in that department. Or, as a buddy who's dealt with them far more than I, puts it, "They're a German company, meaning they've never, ever produced a product with problems (even if the Chinese built it!) So if you have trouble, it's always 'operator error.'" They do have decent online updating services, though.

Only other brand I've ever tried, and that for just one trip, was Magellan. It did its job, but I guess it's a PC vs Mac kinda thing: once you learn one company's ways, the next one seems odd?

Good luck!

Rick C
 
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Rick

Thanks so much for spending the time to lay everything out for me.
All you folks are the BEST and it never ceases to amaze me how helpful our Forum members are.
I think I have a much better grasp of things and who knows, maybe Santa will bring me a new GPS for Christmas, and then I won't have to decide.
Happy Holidays to all !!
Dave
 
Hi,

Dave, I hope I didn't bore you to tears! I did forget one personal observation, on battery life. I dunno how the companies test it, but I've found in real life, if I leave the unit constantly "on" it can cut my battery life as far down as half what the advertising says. If I use it for a while, then shut it off until I need to take another reading, battery life usually approaches the advertised figure. So I always carry rechargeable AAs if I'll be using the unit a lot. Some say the lithiums are well worth the added cost for battery life but we must remember my basic frugality there! ;)

If your ATV already has a "power port"--or doesn't, but you can wire one in--most of Garmin's line can be run off of a 12v port or cigarette lighter with an adaptor. If you get a unit with the factory rechargeable battery, that adaptor is also a charger. If you get one with replaceable batteries, it won't charge--it just bypasses battery power.

Rick C
 
Rick hit the nail on the head with any serious navigation. I learned this is a number of boating classes: One should never rely solely on electronics.

If you are going out on a four wheeler where getting lost could lead to serious conditions first I would suggest you consider the emergency kit you take with you... after that too maps, compass and of course binoculars .... then the gps unit.

I've always liked Garmin.... if you are on a four wheeler I would suggest something slightly larger than a hand held.... I like the small boat chart plotters but I suspect with Garmin you can find something for a bike or 4 wheeler that has a better size screen and already comes with the maps you need.... should have a mounting system you can put on the 4 wheeler.
 
The Garmin 64 series devices are what you should be looking at. While they are the top of the line units, there are some serious technical benefits to these units. The most important is the external antenna. Most of the other Garmin units (eTrex, and Oregon series) use an internal "patch" antenna. While this works fine under most conditions, if you get under any type of tree canopy you will quickly find that they can often not hold a GPS lock. My last eTrex unit was notorious for loosing lock until the later fall when the majority of the trees lost their leaves. It never did very well in a pine forest however. The 6x series units are known for being able to get a GPS lock when other units can't. The fact that Geocachers use them tells you that they are very accurate.

The Oregon series are nice units, however for hunting and ATV use, I really don't like the touch screen. It is not nearly precise enough and when the weather gets cold the touch screen is much less precise, enough so to be frustrating. Add to the fact that you will need to remove your gloves to have a prayer of actually using the unit. I prefer the physical buttons of the 6X series.

Lastly, you should be using your map and compass as your primary navigation aids, with the GPS thrown in for verification, NOT the other way around. I have been in the deep woods when my GPS quit working (not dead batteries, but dead unit altogether). Had I not been constantly referring to my map and compass I would have been seriously lost and would have spent the night in the woods.
 
Thanks again Guys. The above comments are just what I wanted, now if Santa is reading this post, I am all set...have maps & compass.
 
I have a garmin oregon 550t I bought in 2011 for elk hunting in the wilderness. It has done very well for a hand held unit that runs on 2 AA batteries. The oregons have been updated since my 2011 model but I think the core unit serves the same purpose. The built in TOPO maps on the 550t are okay, adding more may work for particular purposes. Yes they make bigger fancier models...that I very much doubt ever spend any time in the elk wilderness.
 

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