Have you ever wondered why..

[Fox Mike]

Was watching a western on the tube and there were a gazillion guys riding in a group shooting at one other guy riding ahead. Now I was wondering why..the guys in the front of the large group never got shot in the back by the guys riding in the back? Why do they never seem to be able to hit that ONE target they are chasing. They are sending tons of lead his way. Shoot, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Have ya ever wondered why...how come you never see them miss the guy and hit the horse, it is a much larger target than a man. Watched a group of travelers 'circle the wagons' and shoot at the hundreds of Indians riding in a circle around them. These are amateurs with guns spraying lead wherever. No horses die but the Indians are picked off with precision, by said amateurs. Have ya ever wondered why...they throw away the revolver when they suddenly find it is empty rather than reload it?

 

[loaded round]

It's just the movies my friend.

 

[golferboy426]

cabin fever Foxmike??

 

[graygun]

It's just the movies my friend.

Yes,and they are made by folks who are in the fantasy-selling business. These makers are overwhelmingly liberal but with proper advisors can sometimes produce a realistic production. The older flicks are ridiculous;how many cops have nailed a perp at 100 yards with a quick shot from a snub-nosed 38?

 

[GunnyGene]

Because that's what makes money - usually. And entertainment, whether it's old time vaudeville or state of the art CGI 3d movies, is all about the money.

 

[stevemb]

The horses have a better union than the actors.

 

[blume357]

Same thing with that empty canteen in the desert..... you finally drink it dry and so what do you do?.... throw it away..... and continue stumbling on.... So, what happens 5 miles along and you come across some water?

 

[Selena]

You are talking about TV and movies for crying out loud. I'm surprised the truth in advertising regs don't require a label saying "any resemblance to the real world is accidental and coincidental."

Let's visit Hulu TV section for moment...

First you have a talking horse that generally shows more intelligence than it's owner.
Then there is the one where the guy supposedly has a ranch but has more than enough time and money to go flying all over the place in a two engine aircraft.
And how can I forget the "rancher" with three sons, one boyish, one big, plump and simple and the third movie star handsome. The bald, fat simple guy usually gets the girl.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

It is because movie people just aren't very good shots.

 

[Fox Mike]

cabin fever Foxmike??

Yep! The wife is away for a week and the weather, coupled with my COPD, won't let me get out, and the cat doesn't want to play. Gotta do something so I figured I'd start a discussion here on the Forum. Always some interesting answers to any and all questions placed here. :) :) I didn't even ask why on Rawhide the only cowboy that had a 'stampede string' on his hat was Rowdy Yates. Guess the rest of the riders didn't care if they lost their hat. :roll:

 

[FastEd]

Gene Autry was a good shot with a pistol.
Once I saw him ride up on the edge of a cliff and shoot a cowboy's hat off his head. Must have been a quarter of a mile away...
He was, also, good at shooting a guy's pistol out of his hand without hurting him...

 

[Selena]

Ever notice how in the towns in the Westerns there are all those horses standing around but never even so much as a wet spot in the dust much less any manure?
Or how these are supposed to be range cattle yet people can walk right up to them without reaction?
How very few cowboys with tied down holsters seem to need to use a hammer loop?
How in certain westerns all the tribes from Apache to Sioux seemed to use Cherokee language to greet people?

I'd start on "Paint your Wagon" but it's almost dinnertime.

 

[mohavesam]

I'm still searching for one of those old movie guns that has zero recoil, so I can fire it up close to my face, and never needs a reload.
Of course, Arnold's 7.62 GE Minigun - you know, the one he humps around for days in the jungle, the one that goes 85 pounds without ammo or handles/mounts - never has any muzzle climb - that one, ranks right up there with the best gunplay in old westerns.

Then again I saw Wile E. Coyote step off of a falling boulder just as it impacted the ground, and he wasn't even hurt. Right there on TeeVee.

 

[Number9]

When you're 6 years old.. most things are real! :mrgreen:

 

[stevemb]

Wish I was still 6-10yrs old. Growing up sucks.

 

[Fox Mike]

I'd start on "Paint your Wagon" but it's almost dinnertime.

The very thought of Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood singing is enough to turn me off to that one. Both of them have done some 'bang up' movies but the 'singing' should be left to some others. :shock:

 

[6gun]

How about early black & white Gunsmoke shows when it comes on and shows Matt Dillon drawing his gun and firing, ever notice his holster is not tied down and the leather lace is just hanging down is leg? :lol: but still he out draws the un-shown outlaw with his big 7 1/2 colt sliding out of the holster with no problem, you also hear the outlaw fire first guess he must have missed :lol:

I noticed in later seasons they must have finally noticed and tied the holster down. :lol:

 

[6gun]

I'd start on "Paint your Wagon" but it's almost dinnertime.

The very thought of Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood singing is enough to turn me off to that one. Both of them have done some 'bang up' movies but the 'singing' should be left to some others. :shock:

Be nice now that's one of my all time favorite movies and the only musical I could ever stand to watch, the rough singing voices are just fine that's part of what makes the movie great, they are playing the part of rough and tumble minors not country music singing stars their not suppose the sound good.

 

[toysoldier]

I'd start on "Paint your Wagon" but it's almost dinnertime.

Don't you start dissin' one of my favorite movies! Clint Eastwood, singing 7 or 8 songs. Lee Marvin, driving a wagonload of French whores across the prairie. A Mormon auctioning off his second wife, who ends up with two husbands. Best western musical ever!

 

[Fox Mike]

How about early black & white Gunsmoke shows when it comes on and shows Matt Dillon drawing his gun and firing, ever notice his holster is not tied down and the leather lace is just hanging down is leg? :lol: but still he out draws the un-shown outlaw with his big 7 1/2 colt sliding out of the holster with no problem, you also hear the outlaw fire first guess he must have missed :lol:

I noticed in later seasons they must have finally noticed and tied the holster down. :lol:

Did you also notice that in the early shows Matt had a pistol with wooden grips but later they were stag?

 

[Geezerglide]

The original Superman, George Reeve on TV. Bullets bounce off Superman's chest but when the bad guy throws the gun at him....he ducks :?

 

[6gun]

How about early black & white Gunsmoke shows when it comes on and shows Matt Dillon drawing his gun and firing, ever notice his holster is not tied down and the leather lace is just hanging down is leg? :lol: but still he out draws the un-shown outlaw with his big 7 1/2 colt sliding out of the holster with no problem, you also hear the outlaw fire first guess he must have missed :lol:

I noticed in later seasons they must have finally noticed and tied the holster down. :lol:

Did you also notice that in the early shows Matt had a pistol with wooden grips but later they were stag?

Yup he must of upgraded is grips like many others of us do.

 

[6gun]

Funny one I saw recently was on High Chaparral, Buck shoots a Apache that attacks them out on the trail and finds the Apache had a brand new Winchester Transition rifle Buck then claims it's the first rifle like this he has ever seen when back at the ranch they had a whole rack of them in the ranch house they use to fight off Apaches attacking the ranch on every other episode . :lol:

 

[RugerHound]

cabin fever Foxmike??

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[contender]

That's why we call it; "Hollyweird!" Weird stuff happens all the time that in real life would never happen.

 

[singact6]

Thanks Fox Mike. Well said. I thought it was only me. Sad truth is we've become a nation who believes heroes come only from Hollywood and not from the battlefields where Americans have fought and died or even from real life everyday people who have done the impossible because it was necessary. That said, I love action movies (thank you Hollywood for the likes of "American Sniper," "Lonesome Dove," "Hombre" and too many more to name) and yea, I love shooting my NV Bisley 357 and Henry Big Boy more than any gun that's saved my butt. So, let me leave you with another one: Why in the devil would anyone with a holstered Colt, square up against Lucas McCain, who had already put a round in the chamber and leveled the barrel at the guy's belly?

 

[Rancher Will]

It's just the movies. But I enjoy them too. I often think that I was born 50 years too late since the movie cowboys spend most of their time in the saloon while I spend most of my time now working.

Every so often, my wife and I notice the cowboys, who are riding a saddle without even saddle bags , make camp and magically have a large coffee pot, tin cups for everyone, coffee and food, even a skillet, or pot. MY wife laughs and asks me why I take a packhorse when I am out for two or three days. She even accuses me of being a weakling since I take my bed roll along and food along in the Panniers since at night in the mountains we expect frost even in summer. The cowboys in the movies just lay on a saddle blanket on the ground to sleep and never seem to freeze their **s.

 

[Xsales]

Guys, Guys, Guys, you all have now made me see the disappointment & disillusionment of the movies

I thought they were real and ALL of you ruined it for me - SHAME ON EVERYONE OF YOU

P.S. Barnaby Jones was the worst ever:
Buddy Epson aka Barnaby at 80 years old & can not run could drop 7-8 gang members with AK47s from 300-400 yards with his tiny 38 special

Men would drop at his sight and give up w/o resisting with the flash of the 38
Excuse me while I go spit up................. :)

 

[Pal Val]

My grandfather was a cattle rancher. He used to say that the only movie cowboy who knew how to ride a horse was Tom Mix. Al the others looked like they were on a saddle for the first time in those movies. Not far from the truth, I think.

 

[eveled]

I get a chuckle when they are holding somebody at gun point, having a stand off. After five minutes of talking, one of them will chamber a round. Sometimes it is a pump shotgun, lever rifle, or semiauto handgun. It never changes, they use the cycling of the action to punctuate the dialogue, as if saying "Now I really mean it, I have a bullet in my gun now".

Or when they are getting ready to go out on a mission and they chamber a round, nobody ever tops off the magazine.

I think it is safe to say, tv and movies may not be the best place to learn about guns.

My wife is an e-ray tech, it is almost painful to watch with her. Every time they show an exray or other medical image, there is something wrong. upside down, wrong body part, too young too old, etc. They literally never ever get it right.

One thing in a crime drama that shows an exray, once a season, but on a show based in a hospital you would think they would have technical advisors.

She gets thinks it is funny because I pick up on other mistakes, like when a glass on the table goes from full to empty and back to full all in one scene, or if a necklace disappears then reappears. Ed