Gas stoves are dnagerous!

[6GUNSONLY]

We won't have anything other than a gas range. When we had our new house built last year (manufactured home) we got gas furnace, water heater, and range. Wife wanted a gas oven as well but they couldn't get a double oven that was gas, so she had to compromise on that and get a double electric oven.

 

[blume357]

I bought my wife a Kitchen Aid gas stove with double oven earlier this year took 5 months to get it. Of course the problem with these new gas stoves is that not only the oven won't work if the power is out but also the top burners won't either.... I need to pull the stove and figure out a way to temporarily wire a inverter in if and when needed.... I can't convince her to get a natural gas generator for home backup. Last quote for that was 8 grand.

 

[Jeepnik]

Pretty much any gas appliance can kill you. Even one's you would think about have been used to commit murder. Had a kid start his families mobile home on fire by loosening the gas line to the water heater. Blew out the pilot and left later the gas reached the pilot on the stove. Almost got away with it. But when the investigators confronted him about the new marks on the gas line (brass is easy to scratch) he caved and admitted it.

Turned out the parents wouldn't let him take the car out that evening.

 

[blume357]

Propane is a lot more dangerous than natural gas.... has a lot more potential energy per volume and the real problem is propane is heavier than air. Natural gas is lighter and a leak will go up and often just leak out of a place... propane is heavier than air and will puddle and fill up an area often up until it reaches a point of ignition.

As I think I've mentioned .. neither propane or natural gas is toxic and neither actually has any oder.... the smell is added and the only way to die from exposure to either is if enough oxygen is displaced to asphyxiate you. Side sort of gun note.. I bought an air soft pistol last year and the propellant used in the cartridges is propane... the interesting thing is this propane does not have the odorous chemical added...mercaptine.... and so when you fire off one of the plastic balls there is no smell.

 

[blackhawknj]

Any appliance or tool, especially a powered one, can be dangerous if you do not take the time and effort to understand it, learn how to use it properly. I use a foot switch when I use a drill, an electric saw, etc. I was/am an Eagle Scout, the Safety Merit Badge was one of the required ones, recall learning about carbon monoxide, overloading electrical circuits, etc. Recall learning that when you had a live Christmas tree you had to fill the stand with water regularly. There was a small fire in our apartment complex some years ago, one of those "always on" TVs, they seem to be off the market now.
I remember the Great Northeastern Blackout of 1965-we were just south of it-there was a bad blackout in NYC in the Summer of 1977, when Sandy hit here in October 2012 my town was without power for 5 days, a friend living on the Jersey Shore-9 days. My apartment has an eclectic stove....FAH!!! Get everything on one giant interconnected grid, then something goes wrong, lightning strike, downed wires, overage or defective equipment, human error, poor training and supervision of employees..

 

[blume357]

One fo the things it is hard for us to wrap our head around is that a combustible material's ignition point will lower as it is constantly heated up over time. And by time this might be years or even decades.... I've been to houses where I find questionable wood too close or even exposed inside a chimney and one of the funny answers is we only use the fireplace or wood stove when the power goes out.... well most folks might use a fireplace for a few hours on a cool night a couple times a week (not enough for the heat to transfer to the wood) when the power goes out you might use the fireplace for several days constantly.... masonry has no reflective 'R' value... but has a 'K' value depending on how thick and much of it there is... which means it can absorb a certain amount of heat and dissipate it... but there is a point when it can no longer absorb any more heat and then the energy/heat is transferred directly through it. Same temperature on both sides....

 

[blackhawknj]

Yes, our ancestors understood, we learned in Boy Scouts, as they have learned the hard way in California in other states, dry wood burns better. Once boiled water reheats more quickly.

 

[Acorn]

Propane is a lot more dangerous than natural gas.... has a lot more potential energy per volume and the real problem is propane is heavier than air. Natural gas is lighter and a leak will go up and often just leak out of a place... propane is heavier than air and will puddle and fill up an area often up until it reaches a point of ignition.

As I think I've mentioned .. neither propane or natural gas is toxic and neither actually has any oder.... the smell is added and the only way to die from exposure to either is if enough oxygen is displaced to asphyxiate you. Side sort of gun note.. I bought an air soft pistol last year and the propellant used in the cartridges is propane... the interesting thing is this propane does not have the odorous chemical added...mercaptine.... and so when you fire off one of the plastic balls there is no smell.

My mom found this out. Years ago they were camping in a little pop up. Mom made supper and then cleaned the stove. Apparently she bump the valve enough to cause a small leak. Later that evening she went to light the stove to make coffee and BOOM! Blew the doors off the cabinets and gave her burns to her legs.

 

[kodiakken]

I'm like the rest of you folks gas all the way range, dryer, furnace and bar b que. I have also been with out power and sparked up the stove and life was good. We don't get hurricanes but we get winter blizzards and anything below zero with no heat is not fun. -30 or colder is brutal.
The people that don't want gas should just quietly go and shut off their gas and see how they make out.