Gas stoves are dnagerous!

[Bob Wright]

So was reported as a news item tonight, using gas stoves to cook with releases deadly gasses into your house. These are nitrous oxide and carbon monoxide. Unless the range is vented, the combination is deadly. Or so it was reported.

I have been around gas kitchen ranges since childhood, still cook on one, with no ill effects. But "they" are recommending electric ranges to replace your gas range.

Back when we had "Hurricane Elvis" in 1993, we were without electric power for over a month. By having a gas kitchen stove, we were able to cook meals and make coffee. And stayed warm when power is out during the winter because of gas furnaces.

My mother lived to be 102 years old. No telling how old she'd be if she had had an electric range!

Bob Wright

 

[Mike J]

They are waging war on all fossil fuels, wanting us to depend on electric for everything. Where I live now we are total electric. When we moved out here gas wasn't available unless you wanted to get a propane tank. I am sure their motives are purely altruistic. There are advantages to having gas heat.

When I saw your thread title it made me think of a family story about one of my uncles passing gas while standing in front of an old gas heater trying to warm himself

 

[caryc]

So was reported as a news item tonight, using gas stoves to cook with releases deadly gasses into your house. These are nitrous oxide and carbon monoxide. Unless the range is vented, the combination is deadly. Or so it was reported.

I have been around gas kitchen ranges since childhood, still cook on one, with no ill effects. But "they" are recommending electric ranges to replace your gas range.

Back when we had "Hurricane Elvis" in 1993, we were without electric power for over a month. By having a gas kitchen stove, we were able to cook meals and make coffee. And stayed warm when power is out during the winter because of gas furnaces.

My mother lived to be 102 years old. No telling how old she'd be if she had had an electric range!

Bob Wright

That's great expect for people who have a pilot less electric ignition on your gas stove and are too stupid to realize that you can light it with a match. Believe it or not, I knew someone that dumb.

 

[Fox Mike]

My mom and dad built their house in early 1943. It had a gas (bottled) stove. My nephew and his family now own the house. Still has a gas (bottled) stove. No one has ever had a problem, then or now.

 

[blackhawknj]

Yes, improper ventilation, having the house sealed too tightly....
My mother told me she and my grandmother moved into the house I first remember in 1940. Had a nice electric stove, my grandmother insisted on getting a gas stove. Then the War came....my mother said there were lot of power outages-and this was in Westchester County, New York, not exactly the Wild Frontier or Ultimate Thule. But they always had the stove. When Sandy hit in 2012 my apartment complex-in Mercer County, NJ-was without power for 5 days, a friend who lived in Point Pleasant, NJ on the shore-9 days.

 

[Chief 101]

Mike J has it figured properly...

 

[kramden]

News is on 24/7. They fill alot of that time with CRAP!

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Gas ranges and other gas appliances require the operators to have a little bit of common sense. The biggest problem with gas ranges is when customers use the oven for heat. Don't do that, use the top burners and leave a window cracked open. A gas range can be a life saver. As far as electronic ignition goes the top burners can still be lit with a match. Don't put your CO detector in the kitchen as it might go off from range fumes.

 

[Johnnu2]

I'm going out to convert to electric right after the holidays.... I want my golden years to be bright.

J.

 

[ronto]

I grew up n a house with oil heat, gas stove and water heater. Without fossil fuels I would have starved and frozen to death not to mention stinking like hell by not taking a shower during the Winter.

 

[blammer]

Figures. Wife just had our old electric countertop and separate oven replaced with gas (Nice appliance for $17,000 ... remade kitchen was non-negotiable part of the deal).

But I am now happy that I have an alternate heat source that doesn't depend on electricity. Though I will have to save enough flashlight use to read the manual to be sure to light it and not the whole house (no, I'm not dumb enough to try to read by a lit match).

I'm not worried about the fumes: I've lived with breathing in herd-loads of cow farts in this part of the country for decades.

 

[blackhawknj]

You feel chilly, put on a sweater, long johns, wool pants, just like our ancestors did 100-200 years ago. The stove for heat? That's what the tea kettle is for. I am a tea drinker, boil my water for 1-2 minutes, that will stick with you.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

They are waging war on all fossil fuels, wanting us to depend on electric for everything. Where I live now we are total electric. When we moved out here gas wasn't available unless you wanted to get a propane tank. I am sure their motives are purely altruistic. There are advantages to having gas heat.

I almost forgot to rebut what you posted. It is not true that 'THEY' are trying to reduce gas appliances. In fact gas appliances are encouraged by many groups to diversify energy consumption. If you do not have nat. gas lines in your area it probably the gas company that did not want to run them there. If you can not have a propane tank it is probably the homeowners assoc that prohibits them. Please don't makeup conspiracy theories and post them on the internet.

 

[blammer]

CA is restricting natural gas use. Not a total ban yet, but mandating solar be built into businesses and residents to be built electric-ready. If anyone new building uses natural gas building must have equivalent energy savings to offset the co2.

== https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/new-california-rules-move-state-away-natural-gas-new-buildings-2021-08-11/

Going to be interesting to see how their already-taxed electric grid holds up under the increased electric use. Also interesting to see how fast they can ramp up green energy to offset present natural gas use.

 

[RoninPA]

Not a thing wrong with gas appliances, the new ones have all kinds of safety features and they tell you exactly how to operate them so that they are not a danger to you and your family. Typically, nowadays, when something bad happens, it is usually the fault of the operator, trying to make something do what it was not designed to do.

"Please don't makeup conspiracy theories and post them on the internet."

I don't think anyone here is try to make up any conspirtacy theories, they reported what was being reported by the main stream media. I have seen these types of "news reports" also and they are not infomercials, they are on the nightly news. And who is behind what is being broadcast by the "news" media that most people watch every morning and evening??? Think about the timing of these "reports" they have been coming out very recently, the same as "reports" about how all electric cars are the next great coming and they have no carbon foot print (bullpoop, how do they mine the ore and build the batteries and what happens when the batteries die?).

Didn't want to go to politics but that is what it is nowadays, "news reports" pushing what the puppet masters want to use to brainwash the people.

 

[rugerguy]

Sorry Jimbo but "THEY" Have been at it in many ,many places for all too long....... :roll:


Merry Chrismas, and keep your gas lamp on for Santa 8)

 

[Mike J]

They are waging war on all fossil fuels, wanting us to depend on electric for everything. Where I live now we are total electric. When we moved out here gas wasn't available unless you wanted to get a propane tank. I am sure their motives are purely altruistic. There are advantages to having gas heat.

I almost forgot to rebut what you posted. It is not true that 'THEY' are trying to reduce gas appliances. In fact gas appliances are encouraged by many groups to diversify energy consumption. If you do not have nat. gas lines in your area it probably the gas company that did not want to run them there. If you can not have a propane tank it is probably the homeowners assoc that prohibits them. Please don't makeup conspiracy theories and post them on the internet.

Jimbo, I do not care to get too political here but They are in fact waging war on fossil fuels. Limiting drilling to the point of harming our economy. Pushing electric car & "renewable" energy technology. Every kind of energy technology anyone uses has its price & there isn't a free ride although some people want everyone to believe there is. You can deny whatever you like but if you don't see that it is because you choose not to.

 

[blume357]

I checked our gas cook stove a few years back and got a very minor reading of CO off of the stove top burners... less than 5 parts per million... did get a some what higher reading off of the oven... Most modern gas appliances, even furnaces put off very little Carbon Monoxide if they are running correctly... the actual out put when you burn either natural gas or propane is Heat (of course, which is the energy from the atoms being released) carbon dioxide and water... the physics is easy... you mix the gas (hydrogen & carbon) with oxygen and that is the same thing that comes off of it in a different form. The problem is when a gas burning device does not burn the gas completely ... such as with decorative vented gas logs or a ventless appliance that is operating improperly or does not have enough combustion air.

 

[Acorn]

A question for those in the know. If using a gas oven releases carbon monoxide, why aren’t people gassed by the thousands while cooking Thanksgiving turkeys in the oven for hours? Not trying to argue but I’ve always wondered.

 

[blume357]

It's usually not enough to even effect you... but of course it will depend on the air transfer of the home... how often the air is replaced. One of the issues that is not addressed in new housing is how often the air is replaced.... "Making a home air tight is just plain stupid." I've been exposed to what is considered a deadly amount of carbon monoxide more than once.... it will fog you and make you a bit dizzy.... long term exposure of a dangerous amount will make you think you have the flue and so you just go back to bed.... and die. Everyone that has a home using fossil fuel or even wood should have carbon monoxide detectors in the home.

I think I'll check our gas stove today.... we will be using both ovens later on....(I bought my wife a gas stove with two ovens this past year so she could do some real cooking.) In the words of Kinky Freeman, "Get your buns in the kitchen and the biscuits in the oven!"

Merry Christmas!

 

[Jimbo357mag]

A question for those in the know. If using a gas oven releases carbon monoxide, why aren’t people gassed by the thousands while cooking Thanksgiving turkeys in the oven for hours? Not trying to argue but I’ve always wondered.

Normal gas oven use will not release enough CO to be dangerous as tested in the lab but like I said if you open the oven door and run the oven burner for many hours for heat there is a chance you could get a CO build up in the house. Manufacturers have added a feature on most ranges where the oven can not be run continuously for hours but when I was a serviceman there was a code that could be applied to ranges of Jewish families that would allow them to keep the oven on more for hours, as was their tradition.

 

[Selena]

A question for those in the know. If using a gas oven releases carbon monoxide, why aren’t people gassed by the thousands while cooking Thanksgiving turkeys in the oven for hours? Not trying to argue but I’ve always wondered.

That only stat I could find on fatalities from gas stoves was from 2016 and the number was a chilling 549. Alcohol related deaths were 36 thousand as a comparison. Get a CO detector and change the batteries twice a year plus a quality fire extinguisher and you are pretty well covered provided you have an IQ higher than a democrat.

 

[Acorn]

My uncle stoped at my grandparents one day. They were both pretty straight laced. Not stern but not a lot of laughs. The day he stopped in they were acting weird. Laughing acting odd. He called other family members. Upon checking, the brick chimney had collapsed on the inside backing CO into the house.

 

[blume357]

I used to deal with blocked chimneys hooked to gas or oil furnaces a lot.... the good news is I have not seen an oil furnace in years and just about all the gas furnaces in homes around here are the new super high efficiency ones that vent out the side of the house through standard pvc pipe. Folks are also converting to the instant on hot water units... which I kind of question.... those puppies use about 200,000 btus when they are running. I may put one in one day but I think I will keep my standard gas hot water unit too and tie them in together. I need to go get my CO meter and be ready to check the kitchen this afternoon.

 

[P89DC]

NYC just passed a ban on new gas hookups starting in a few years. That includes furnaces. Not a conspiracy unless you recognize Global war....errrr.....Climate Change as one.

 

[Selena]

NYC just passed a ban on new gas hookups starting in a few years. That includes furnaces. Not a conspiracy unless you recognize Global war....errrr.....Climate Change as one.

So, when NYC finally saves it's citizens from that horrible natural gas what will happen when the lights go out in the middle of winter? I remember how warehouse & meat distributors were ready to sue Con Ed in 2006 (or maybe 2007) for the power going out in one of the boroughs just for a week. I can just imagine the reaction to a couple weeks in a cold January when electric is the only source of heat.

 

[Chief 101]

How easy will it be to take NYC to its knees when the only source of power is electric...especially dirty power like windmill or or solar when that's all they have

 

[AzGeno]

We love gas. Period! Wouldn’t heat or cook with anything else. Instant on gas tankless water heater is great too.
Cheap (was) and clean, but doesn’t fit the ‘agenda’.

 

[trebor44]

Someone "discovered" a topic for their "pay day". Wood, coal, kerosene, electric, alcohol, propane, butane, oil and yes gasoline all require a bit of 'sense' when using. Electric generation does have limitations and many costs (upfront and hidden) that many who push for it just don't acknowledge, know about or understand. Basis concept is 'energy output requires energy input' and there will always be a byproduct!

 

[blume357]

yep, electricity is only clean at the end user.... to get it cost both us and the environment the same one way or another. what every home needs is a fusion reactor....