Gas prices...

Gas.... I dunno. Diesel.... $3.89. Sure wish it would drop like gas.
 
Out here on the left Coast, $2.81 per gallon.

Now people think they've got extra money and are gonna charge their cards up for Christmas presents. Hope they're planning that gas prices could go back up. :?

WAYNO.
 
Saw $2.71 in Camp Verde, Arizona today. Down 8 cents from yesterday. I like the trend.
 
Coop said:
I remember filling up my 1965 VW Karmin Ghia sports car in 1965 with gasoline costing 25 cents a gallon.

I didn't start driving until 1970.... but I remember filling up my Dad's '68 Impala at 10 cents a gallon during one of the many gas price wars that always seemed to be going on in Tulsa.
 
I filled up a Karman Ghia a few times. Then a bug, several.....then a Jetta...and today a diesel Golf. Diesel 3.35 in Dallas....Give or take....
 
Hi,

Filled up this evening for $2.899. Lowest price I've seen in the last week was $2.579. All prices in CA. Diesel's running about 85 cents a gallon over 87 octane gasoline at the stations I pay attention to.

Rick C
 
Filled up yesterday in Wasilla, Alaska and 87 octane gas was $3.459/gallon. I think we are getting 'screwed'. I'm glad to be retired and not commuting the 50 miles to Anchorage each day.
 
akbluz said:
Filled up yesterday in Wasilla, Alaska and 87 octane gas was $3.459/gallon. I think we are getting 'screwed'. I'm glad to be retired and not commuting the 50 miles to Anchorage each day.

Yep, Sounds to me like you are. AK has the lowest fuel tax of $.08 in the country. TX is $.20 and ranks 38th in the US. Alaska has the oil and the refineries close to you so shipping isn't the problem. VERY interesting.
Our gas is around $2.30/40. Still getting screwed on diesel at $3.30/40 same as everybody else :evil:
 
Ruger Packer said:
Coop said:
I remember filling up my 1965 VW Karmin Ghia sports car in 1965 with gasoline costing 25 cents a gallon.

I didn't start driving until 1970.... but I remember filling up my Dad's '68 Impala at 10 cents a gallon during one of the many gas price wars that always seemed to be going on in Tulsa.

I once bought Ethyl in Oklahoma City for 12 cents a gallon during a price war in 1960. That was Phillips 66 Ethyl** too. Wonder what happened to those "price wars" you sure never see them anymore !!

** Did I forget to mention that was FULL SERVICE station??
 
"Re: Gas prices..."

Prices here are down about five cents....meaning that it's dropped from the usual .25 a gallon to about .20 a gallon (in honest money).

Source: http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html

Oh...and BTW, silver has been on sale lately too.

DGW
 
Colonialgirl said:
Ruger Packer said:
Coop said:
I remember filling up my 1965 VW Karmin Ghia sports car in 1965 with gasoline costing 25 cents a gallon.

I didn't start driving until 1970.... but I remember filling up my Dad's '68 Impala at 10 cents a gallon during one of the many gas price wars that always seemed to be going on in Tulsa.

I once bought Ethyl in Oklahoma City for 12 cents a gallon during a price war in 1960. That was Phillips 66 Ethyl** too. Wonder what happened to those "price wars" you sure never see them anymore !!

** Did I forget to mention that was FULL SERVICE station??

Pam, That is basically what is going on in OKC right now. A gas war, but not on the scale that we remember from 4 decades ago. Most places in Okla right now, unleaded is in the neighborhood of $2.25-$2.35 gallon.
 
How in the world did we ever have $.20-30 a gal in the 50-60s
Now the taxes are OK 18.4 and diesel 24.4 TX 38.4 diesel 44.4.
Does anybody know why diesel is higher? SEEMS it should be lower to help the commercial vehicles that bring US all of our products.
 
Wyandot Jim said:
How in the world did we ever have $.20-30 a gal in the 50-60s
Now the taxes are OK 18.4 and diesel 24.4 TX 38.4 diesel 44.4.
Does anybody know why diesel is higher? SEEMS it should be lower to help the commercial vehicles that bring US all of our products.

In the 1970's Crude oil was around $8.00 a barrel and gasoline taxes were lower too.
 
Wyandot Jim said:
Does anybody know why diesel is higher? SEEMS it should be lower to help the commercial vehicles that bring US all of our products.

Diesel is higher because of all the demands on the fuel from environmentalists. Then of course you have the Boutique recipes that many states demand as well. The other thing is that this time of year diesel competes with heating oil at the refinery.

Don't worry, as soon as our oil industry shuts down the Arabs will raise the price again.
 
Cooperhawk said:
Wyandot Jim said:
Does anybody know why diesel is higher? SEEMS it should be lower to help the commercial vehicles that bring US all of our products.

Diesel is higher because of all the demands on the fuel from environmentalists. Then of course you have the Boutique recipes that many states demand as well. The other thing is that this time of year diesel competes with heating oil at the refinery.

Don't worry, as soon as our oil industry shuts down the Arabs will raise the price again.

I was referring to the Taxes on the diesel which are higher.
Diesel dose not compete with heating oil. In a distillation process there is X amount of diesel, jet, gasoline and X amount of H O in a barrel of oil. A refinery with a Cat Cracker any type of product and quantity can be made from a barrel of oil. Low Sulfur Diesel has a lot less additives in it than Gas. None at one time. The USLD diesel was only suppose to cost .$05-25 more per Gal. to make :( So when high sulfur diesel was 10-25 cents a gallon less than gas it should now be the same price. :wink:

As far as the oil industry shutting down. Most all of the Major projects that are now operating were sanctioned when oil was $35-40 or less.
Remember in the mid 80s oil went to $10.00 a BBL. The country and oil companies survived. Yea it was hard for us working in the Oil Industry.

BP installed four deep water platforms in 2005 that were sanctioned at $35 a barrel. They are now producing 500,000-600,000 BOD. which is about what the North Slope produces The platforms are now probably paid for.
For example Chevron just started producing from a 8 BILLION dollar 100,000 BOD deep water platform that will take them 61/2 years to pay for rather than 5 at $100 BBL.. So in the remaining 23+- years the profit will be quite a bit more. :wink: From what I understand lowered oil prices will not really hurt the BIG oil companies if they quite over spending.

"The transition to ULSD is not without substantial costs. The US Government has estimated that pump prices for diesel fuel will increase between $.05 and $.25 per gallon as a result of the transition. And, according to the American Petroleum Institute, the domestic refining industry has invested over $8 Billion to comply with the new regulations."
GUESS we were lied to again :twisted: :twisted:
 
Wyandot Jim said:
How in the world did we ever have $.20-30 a gal in the 50-60s ?....
............

Just to answer that part of your question....we still had real money back then.
Fact is, if ya have an old Quarter to sell, what it fetches will still buy ya a gallon of gas, and on some days, you'll even get some change back.
http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1932-1964-Silver-Washington-Quarter-Value.html

What I'm saying is that a gallon of gas is still a gallon of gas, a piece of silver is still a piece of silver, and the only thing that has changed down at the gas station is that nowdays you're having to trade scraps of paper instead of real money.
In other words, Gas is still the same "$.20-$.30 a gal" that it's been for 50 years....it's just that we've been robbed of our real money. And ditto on the grocery situation, and/or about anything else you can name.

It amazes me that We the People aint fighting-mad over this stuff.

DGW
 
Wyandot Jim said:
Diesel dose not compete with heating oil. In a distillation process there is X amount of diesel, jet, gasoline and X amount of H O in a barrel of oil. A refinery with a Cat Cracker any type of product and quantity can be made from a barrel of oil. Low Sulfur Diesel has a lot less additives in it than Gas. None at one time. The USLD diesel was only suppose to cost .$05-25 more per Gal. to make :( So when high sulfur diesel was 10-25 cents a gallon less than gas it should now be the same price. :wink:

Could be Jim, however every time we ask the question why is diesel so high around here, they claim it's due to the switch over to heating fuel production every fall. :roll:
 
Could be Jim, however every time we ask the question why is diesel so high around here, they claim it's due to the switch over to heating fuel production every fall. :roll:

I also guess that is possible way up North. I'm curious does the price of diesel come down in the spring? Or does the spread between Gas and diesel stay the same as in winter?
Seems when it comes to fuel we continue to be lied to. Like what happened to the $5.00 gal gas this year, China is using a lot of oil so the price is going up, not enough refineries and all that crap. :( :(

A typical crude oil fractionation tower. As you can see the diesel and the Fuel Oil come off at different trays and temperatures.
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