Freedom Arms style recessed chambers for custom Bisley?

[Matabele]

Hi all,

Im thinking about having a custom 5 shot 475 Bisley made up for me. Im starting to think about options and was wondering about the recessed chamber mouths, like you see on Freedom Arms guns.

Can anyone tell me what the advantages and disadvantages are of this? Is it a good idea?

Thanks!

 

[flatgate]

All of Ruger's centerfires, except the .30 Carbine and .357 mag., used "counterbored" chambers up until the change over to the "New Model" design cylinders in '73/'74......

I'm pretty certain that the custom gun builders offer that design as an option.

flatgate

 

[M'BOGO]

The only criticism I've ever heard against having the rims recessed, is one more place for dirt to hide.

 

[Skook1]

One "advantage" of the recessed rim design is it allows the cylinder to fully fill the cylinder frame and provide support to the loading gate (which is not supported when firing single loaded rounds.)
Russ

 

[Sugar River]

One "advantage" of the recessed rim design is it allows the cylinder to fully fill the cylinder frame and provide support to the loading gate (which is not supported when firing single loaded rounds.)
Russ

It's not so much an advantage as a requirement. Without counter bored chambers, firing a 475 with one or more empty chambers will cause the gate to jump forward and tie up the gun.

I doubt any of the big name smiths will build a 475 without a CB'd cylinder.

Pete

 

[Matabele]

Thanks for the replies guys, some good info. The recoil affect on the loading gate makes sense...although Sugar I have pictures of a Linebaugh 500 and a Harton 480 that dont have counterbored cylinders. Maybe its a recoil impulse thing on certain calibres only, such as 475???

 

[CraigC]

Don't know if it's a requirement per se but most of them will recess the chambers on the big bores to support the loading gate. Personally, I don't care for the feature. It's a place for crud to hide and you can't glance at the sixgun to see if it's loaded.

 

[Sugar River]

While it has been a few years, I'm reasonably sure that Hamilton said he wouldn't build a 480 on up without counter bored cylinder.

Pete

 

[2 dogs]

Its not a requirement. However, supporting the loading gate by fully loading all the cylinders is or the gate might pop forward and tie up the gun.

 

[s4s4u]

Load the gun up fully each time and you don't have to worry abourt the loading gate. I also like the ability to check the gun's condition at a glance. I do think it looks nice from the outside, but not sure about the practicality.

 

[Axehandle]

Lots of preference involved here.. While I've got them both ways I prefer my case heads recessed for looks. While I can picture a little trash in the case head recesses causing difficulty the only recessed case head chamber that was chambered tight enough to ever have a little trash create a problem for me was in a FA...

 

[Lee Martin]

None of my custom 5-shots get recessed chambers, but I always load a full cylinder. As noted, it's another thing to clean. Here's a 475 I built a few years back:

As you can see, the cylinder does have rear gap.

 

[Matabele]

Nice looking gun Lee...what barrel length is that?

 

[Lee Martin]

Thanks. The barrel is 5.5" and the lug is machined out of the barrel blank.

 

[Matabele]

Just something about that barrel band, looks like it means business!! How does it shoot, is it accurate? Anything in particular you asked for that i should think about?

 

[Jbrown75]

Just something about that barrel band, looks like it means business!! How does it shoot, is it accurate? Anything in particular you asked for that i should think about?

I do believe Lee built that one hisownself. He's a very talented individual.

 

[Lee Martin]

This one was homebuilt. The barrel is Pac Nor blank and it shoots great. Since this picture was taken, I've added a Bowen rear target sight.

 

[Matabele]

Ah homebuilt, cool! Wish I had the expertise to try that would be a lot of fun I think. Great gun Lee thanks for the info.