sixshot
Buckeye
Need a price check on a Singlesix flatgate with factory stags, hey Carl, help me out! No box or papers.
Dick
Dick
Flatgate with Stags
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condition is everything, add the stags, and you have a gun pushing well over $1000. LOW serial number and have heard of them going for 3 times that price,SOOOOOOOO.............more details
often see folks buy one, pay a GOOD buck, just to get the grips, if they are 'correct"....GOTTA BE FACTORY, NOT "repos"........... :roll:
often see folks buy one, pay a GOOD buck, just to get the grips, if they are 'correct"....GOTTA BE FACTORY, NOT "repos"........... :roll:
flatgate
Hawkeye
Dick,
Let's do a quick review of the 4 variations.
Type I: Non-serrated front sight. No "dash" between Single and Six on the cylinder frame. Breech face is flat and not "stepped"..
Type II: Serrated front sight, "dash" between Single and Six.
Type III: Long slot ejector housing which would be shared with the .357 Flattop.
Type IV: Dimpled Ejector rod button.
Type I guns command a premium. Collector grade guns run in the $600 to $1,000 or MORE depending on "low serial number" fever.......
The other three types sell for $450-$600 depending on condition and the "how bad do I want it" factor.
Boxes add $150 or more, depending on condition, original to gun, etc.
Factory Stags? $400-$500 or maybe more if they are "stellar" and have provenance.
Type I
Type II
Type III
Type IV
Stags
Buy It!
flatgate
Let's do a quick review of the 4 variations.
Type I: Non-serrated front sight. No "dash" between Single and Six on the cylinder frame. Breech face is flat and not "stepped"..
Type II: Serrated front sight, "dash" between Single and Six.
Type III: Long slot ejector housing which would be shared with the .357 Flattop.
Type IV: Dimpled Ejector rod button.
Type I guns command a premium. Collector grade guns run in the $600 to $1,000 or MORE depending on "low serial number" fever.......
The other three types sell for $450-$600 depending on condition and the "how bad do I want it" factor.
Boxes add $150 or more, depending on condition, original to gun, etc.
Factory Stags? $400-$500 or maybe more if they are "stellar" and have provenance.
Type I
Type II
Type III
Type IV
Stags
Buy It!
flatgate
Dick, that is about the only way to come to a recognised price, and most folks use the 'blue book these days, and the % (percent) chart of amount of "original" finish on the gun for these pricings...now days though auctions can and will blow the prices out of the water as it only takes two folks who BOTH want the same thing to drive up any pricing.....but back to the gun shops, gun shows, the "condition" of the gun itself tends to set the price..yes, add boxes, paper work, , and any accessories in your case , the stag grips and even these, the pricing depends totally on wether these grips are indeed "factory" ........' we bought a NICE flatgate ,with 'factory stags' for $250 from an estate, and others for double that and MORE, and know of a Forum Member that sold his 3 digit gun, with factory stags for, as said, around $3000, soooo, now where does ANY price fall in between these figures...............two shows ago , we sold a decent flatgate,3rd variation, with NON factory stags and it went for $400.
you have to decide what YOU are willing to spend, hopefully do your homework, ,even get a second opinion ( have them LOOKED at) as to the validity of the grips, then maybe do the deal....good luck
you have to decide what YOU are willing to spend, hopefully do your homework, ,even get a second opinion ( have them LOOKED at) as to the validity of the grips, then maybe do the deal....good luck
contender
Ruger Guru
Well Dick,, did you get the gun yet???
good, hope it works out for BOTH of you..........sounds like a win-win.
street
Hunter
The last Ruger Stags were made around 1962-63. The last flatgate was around 1955-56. If that old fellow bought the gun and stags or just the stags new 40 years ago that would be 1971. That would make them after market. :shock:sixshot said:
the key word is "over...." give the old guy a break. we're ALL getting there, and as we said, still NEED to look at and verify, get a second opinion to know a "little bit better....." every gun has its OWN story by its 'owner'. :roll:
street
Hunter
rugerguy said:
Yea! Dan you are right. Whats 10 years maybe 15 in the big picture of things. What all new collectors need to do is invest a few dollars and acquire some books on Ruger, and there are some good ones out there, and spend some time in reading these books and when this old gentlemen said over 40 years, a red flag should have jumped up. As we know it should be 50 years or more for the stags and 55 years or more for the Flatgate. Yes the old gentlemen may have forgot how long it has been, but the time to question him was at the time that he said it, not the time that the gun was delivered. Let's hope the old gentlemen was wrong about the 40 years and the Stags are Factory.
flatgate
Hawkeye
rugerguy said:
Damn, I hate hearing the truth..............
Hooray for Sixshot! I think you got a good one!
flatgate
street
Hunter
sixshot said:
Glad it turned out good for you. Finding a Flatgate with Factory Stags has got to be a high point in Ruger collecting. Oh, with that serial number it's probably a type 3.
contender
Ruger Guru
Way to go Dick!!!!!!!!!! It looks good! Those stags look "right" as well. I"M JEALOUS!!!!!!!! I haven't found my first set of factory stags for a reasonable price yet,, much less a gun with a set on them. BTW; That gun is a shooter,, so,, you could remove the stags,,, add a set of those funny looking odd wood things you make,, and have a field gun!
chet15
Hawkeye
Those grips do indeed look proper. Congratulations!
Chet15
Chet15
americal
Hunter
GREAT STAGS :!: I've never seen a factory pair I didn't like & some can be a little different in shape and size --If you sell grips hope they go to a forum member 
Great find 8)
Great find 8)
ar15ed
Single-Sixer
that is a fine lookin' unit!
The emblems on each panel seem to be quite proud, ala not even to the surface of the stag material. What does the reverse side of the grips look like, please?
oregon73
Blackhawk
Very interested to learn more about those stags. (My own opinion doesn't matter much but they don't seem to be very well fitted.)
But I do like the gun! I think some vintage black or walnut grips on that thing and it's ready to go!
Rob
But I do like the gun! I think some vintage black or walnut grips on that thing and it's ready to go!
Rob
street
Hunter
oregon73 said:
Some of the early Ruger books stated that the factory stag grips were ill fitting, which was one of the things to look for to determine if they were factory. It really pays one to do his homework when dealing with older Rugers, and one of the ways is to acquire all of the books on Ruger collecting that one can. Just one informed buy will pay for the total cost of all these books. About 20 years ago I walked into a gun shop and there set a Single-Six that a lot of people had passed up because they didn't know what it was. The shop owner didn't know either. What it was, was a Super Single-Six, three screw, with a 4 5/8 in. bl. for $185.00. That was the going price for a regular Super Single-Six. When it comes to Ruger Collecting!!! Information, Information, Information.
I traded that gun to Jeff Munnell for a Long Frame Super Blackhawk, even. That gain more then paid for all the books that I had bought then and now.
8) :? :wink: Is that why Jeff always swears at me when I finally find him, after all these years.........?
We need to get him back into the Fold, Me thinks.......... 8)
We need to get him back into the Fold, Me thinks.......... 8)
street,
Do you remember or have that serial # on that 4-5/8"?
Do you remember or have that serial # on that 4-5/8"?
street
Hunter
SteveRuger said:
No I don't think that I had it anywhere but in my FFL book, and I turned that in when I gave up my FFL. Sorry
street
Hunter
HAWKEYE#28 said:8) :? :wink: Is that why Jeff always swears at me when I finally find him, after all these years.........?
We need to get him back into the Fold, Me thinks.......... 8)
Yes we do! I miss the talks that I had with Jeff. I learned a lot about Rugers from Jeff and we need him back.
Great snag Dick!!
These stags drive me nuts trying to figure correct or incorrect.
The consensus of those who have posted here is that the stags appear to be real!
I recently seen a pair at a gunshow where the medallions were "proud"
like the ones on Dicks gun. I passed on buying them and told him to
take them to Medina and see Rugerguy, don't know if they ever did.
The fact that the medallions were "proud" caused me to shy away! my
mistake I guess, you learn everyday :wink:
Terry
These stags drive me nuts trying to figure correct or incorrect.
The consensus of those who have posted here is that the stags appear to be real!
I recently seen a pair at a gunshow where the medallions were "proud"
like the ones on Dicks gun. I passed on buying them and told him to
take them to Medina and see Rugerguy, don't know if they ever did.
The fact that the medallions were "proud" caused me to shy away! my
mistake I guess, you learn everyday :wink:
Terry
street
Hunter
T.A. WORKMAN said:
Terry, It all depends on how thick the stags are where the medallions are placed. If the stags are too thin just a little, then the medallions will be proud. You know Mr. Ruger, he's not going to waste anything if he can help it. I once had a pair that I thought was Factory that didn't have enough room to counter sink the "staking" hole on one of the grips. That grip matched the other grip for color, it had the medallion in the correct place, it had the correct medallion. It looked right except it didn't have enough thickness to counter sink the "staking" hole. The other grip was thick enough to do this and it was right. I had a heck of a time selling those grips because of this. I had a guy a couple of years ago that would not listen to my explanation to why I thought the grip was OK. He said. "It wasn't counter sunk on the back then they were fake". He wouldn't answer me when I ask him how they could be counter sunk on the back when that grip was too thin. The medallion was a little proud as it was, but it would have been proud about 3/16 of an inch, if it had been counter sunk!!! :roll:
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