First Handgun issue SR9 shooting to the left

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I have been shooting for many years, mostly Rifles; I was a Nebraska state champion Youth skeet shooter at age 11. I am doing well with the hand gun but am not getting the results I want.

The gun is a Ruger SR9..
here is my target at 8.1 yards (25ft) the range I went to uses a digital system.

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Since I am fairly new at hand gun target shooting can anyone who has been doing it for a while give me some pointers.

I spent several months shooting different guns before I bought the SR9, This gun is well ballanced, shoots well and fits my hand perfect. I love this gun....

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When I am at the range with my SR9, I shoot one clip right handed and one left handed. If I shot your grouping with both hands I would do as pisgah suggested. I would let a well qualified friend / range tech verify your grouping just for fun.
 
Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. Just shot a new MKIII and same results. I replaced the sights on the new SR9C so that wasn't surprising. After the MKIII did the same thing, I suspect shooter error. I'll rule that out this weekend. Thats why they make them adjustable.
 
I read the Manual and it stated to "loosen the rear site screw, then the windage screw. using a plastic hammer to tap the site in the direction needed.

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I tried it without sucess, So I also read on this site to try a brass puntch and hammer to move the front site.

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Again no sucess..
I will shoot a video to see what I am doing with the trigger...

Thanks
 
I have fixed 3 SR9 front sights at my shop with great success.
I used 2 small blocks of cedar wood (very soft) to support the slide in a large bench vise. Using a 3/4" x 3/4" x 4" piece of very hard oak, cut one end at 90 deg. angle that will get struck by the hammer. The other end more or less than 90 deg. You want the pointed end to make contact with the 90 deg part of the sight but not the top. You can drift the the sight with out any damage or marks using the right wood.
 
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Be very sure it is the sights, and not your technique. I almost adjusted the sights on my SR9c early on. After a couple hundred rounds I started grouping more centered without adjustment of the sights, or my sight picture. Turns out it was how I was shooting, likely anticipation.
 
My 9c is dead on out of the box, but another pistol with same sights- I fired about 400 rounds, wokring on my grip etc, to be sure it wasn't me before adjusting. Point is I agree with clovishound-
 
Clovishound said:
Be very sure it is the sights, and not your technique. I almost adjusted the sights on my SR9c early on. After a couple hundred rounds I started grouping more centered without adjustment of the sights, or my sight picture. Turns out it was how I was shooting, likely anticipation.

Your right, I plan on getting a video and have an expert watch as well.
 
I never mess with the front sight, just the rear. It looks to me that you moved the front sight in the wrong direction. Just FYI: You move the rear sight in the direction you want to move your groups, in your case to the right. You move the front sight in the opposite direction. Simply put, you move your front sight to the left if you want your gun to shoot slightly right.
 
As others said be sure its really the site and don't let ego get in the way just today I found the cause of my sr40c shooting to the left as well. Even after several range trips I never noticed I was doing this before.

Sights aligned, looking good
Start the squeeze, still good
Middle of the pull, still good
Just before the trigger break, I was yanking.

For the first time I paid attention to that last tenth of a second, and could actually see my front site swinging left just a fraction of a second before the break. It swung far enough to cover my left rear dot, then I got the bang.

I ashamed to say I fired over 1000 rounds before I noticed this habit in myself today. You'd think you'd notice sooner but I didn't. You'd think in the previous 1000+ trigger pulls I'd have noticed this but I was oblivious to it.

I'm not suggesting your sites notoff it may very well be, and most likely is from what you've posted. But still I'd suggest the next time your at the range, pay three times as much attention to those microseconds at trigger break. Because in my case that's where I was going wild. If its still off, well you can be sure you where right.

GL with it.
 
Cholo said:
I never mess with the front sight, just the rear. It looks to me that you moved the front sight in the wrong direction. Just FYI: You move the rear sight in the direction you want to move your groups, in your case to the right. You move the front sight in the opposite direction. Simply put, you move your front sight to the left if you want your gun to shoot slightly right.

This is what it looked like when I bought it..
I was not able to get a good video today but I had the range officer watch and see if he could see what I was doing wrong. he said he could not see anything I was doing wrong. he had the owner fire my gun and he was hitting left to. I pointed out the front site being off and he checked it out and said to leave it and his gun smith will fix it. he said that they have seen this on several hand guns lately.
 
None of my rugers came with centered front sights. It kinda bothers me. A LOT, actually. I'm at least slightly more than marginally OCD...

BUT, they were all dead-nuts on windage-wise, and dialed in for 25 yards from the factory. All of my elevations have been adjusted to 100 yards; it's funny to watch the range-monkeys get all huffed up when they put 3-5 shots in the 7-ring while I put them in the 9 or 10.
 
I once had the opportunity to adjust an S&W 59's sights from a machine rest. Ransom or something similar, long time ago I don't recall for certain. I really like the idea of taking shooter influences out of it. Getting the gun as spot on as it is capable of. Then work on your technique.

I have seen a machine rest made out of hard wood for sighting revolvers. Grips removed, the rest is the grip. The guy made it himself for sighting and testing and every time he had a different gun he'd router a new set of hard wood blanks to hold the frame. More or less copied the motions of a Ransom Rest, but in hard wood.

I'd really like to own a Ransom for this sort of thing. But it's the cost of the gun and a pile of ammo to go with it:
http://www.ransomrest.com/RansomRest.html
http://www.ransomrest.com/inserts.html
 
Try these:


http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/grp-analysis.pdf

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm


I would bet that it's the nut behind the slide.... :wink:
 
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