Drills

I don't know anyone who actually aims a firearm in the house, in the middle of the night. You guys are killing me :ninja:

J.
 
Love the extra large tritium front sight on the Hellcat. Night fision fronts are about as bright as I've seen, yet the rear sights don't seem to be of any consequence at room distances. Perhaps it age or a flaw in technique? But that front sight still seems to be important. YMMV.
 
We zeroed with the large aperture, not low.
It's not a zero thing, it's an instinctive reaction shooting at night (low light) finding the front sight on dark backgrounds usually ends up with the shot striking high unless taken into consideration for basic Marksmanship.
 
It's not a zero thing, it's an instinctive reaction shooting at night (low light) finding the front sight on dark backgrounds usually ends up with the shot striking high unless taken into consideration for basic Marksmanship.

I get that, but that is not the reason for the offset apertures is all I'm saying.
 
I get that, but that is not the reason for the offset apertures is all I'm saying.
Depending on which mod, the sight system on the M16 has differing usage. Other than the M16 military sights on the M1 and M14 were graduated in yards or meters without differing apertures. Shooting at night with the smallest aperture on an M16 regardless of modifications was futile. Not to mention that use of M193 and M855 rendered the original operational design of the apertures mute. So if you had a load of M855 in your M16 or M16A1 designed for use with M193 it really didn't work day or night. Just like BDC scopes, they are all calibrated to a specific load, and are at best a SWAG. JMHO YMMV. But I'm a Back to Basics Marksmanship kind of FUDD. So those more advanced may have differing opinions on the practical use of M16 apertures. YMMV.

Edit, If your Battlefield Rifle has a handle like a woman's purse, well perhaps it isn't a Battlefield Firearm to begin with? 🤣
 
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Solution . . . revolver. ☺️
You wheel gun guys....
but then speaking of muscle memory or what ever... it is a fact that contender can reload his revolver faster than I can my Sig P226.. figure that one out.....

XUSNORDIE... also pointed out that with all these drills one is supposed to be looking at or for the threat not the gun and so it does not matter if it is night or day.... I did not see him giving anyone a hard time just explaining what he knows from his experience.
 
I grew up shooting M1 Garands and shooting Mauser rifles. My favorite open sights are of the M1 Garands. During 30 years of patrol duty I really liked my issued M16 and M4 sights.
There is no use of argument of what are the best sights.
Happy Easter, everyone!
 
Matthew 28:1-10 NASB1995

[1] Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.

[2] And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it.

[3] And his appearance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow.
[4] The guards shook for fear of him and became like dead men.

[5] The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid; for I know that you are looking for Jesus who has been crucified.

[6] He is not here, for He has risen, just as He said. Come, see the place where He was lying.

[7] Go quickly and tell His disciples that He has risen from the dead; and behold, He is going ahead of you into Galilee, there you will see Him; behold, I have told you.”

[8] And they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy and ran to report it to His disciples.

[9] And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.

[10] Then Jesus *said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and take word to My brethren to leave for Galilee, and there they will see Me.”
 
XUSNORDIE... also pointed out that with all these drills one is supposed to be looking at or for the threat not the gun and so it does not matter if it is night or day.... I did not see him giving anyone a hard time just explaining what he knows from his experience.

Well, he does offer up considerable experience. and that's always worth considering. Take it or leave it, up to you. 😁
 
Since power tools are in the thread a lot of folks don't know that DeWalt was saved by Black & Decker, and wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for B&D efforts. My Father was a Corp B&D type and was involved in how B&D marketed DeWalt. B&D initially wanted to rebrand to their own name and have a higher end "Pro" line of tools. I heard the story many times, it was a touchy subject when you heard a bunch of intoxicated Corp guys discuss it around a grill. Caused a big riff.
Had a B&D Pro 3/8” Drill early 90’s maybe. That dog gone thing was a wrist snapper, several of us around the shop were sent howling when it bound up. My BIL was involved in the outfit that made those metal boxes the drills etc came in. He was one of the first “commoners” to know of the Dewalt deal.
 
Im going to back you on this Joe. We did drills to field strip and reassemble every firearm issued in complete darkness, and did them blindfolded to match the conditions. We even did this in the pool or in the surf just to be prepared for actual field conditions. Along with other drills with other equipment and aircraft egress. Now on the firearms only for self defense, we may differ on that point.
My son collects, my nephew hunts- and have completely different weapons for different purposes. That's not to say that my longarms can't be used for "sport" hunting- they just aren't. My .22/250 is a great hunting weapon- but will also go right through a standard issue NJE III vest if a bad guy is wearing one- and everyone has one these days. I have hunted for food in certain situations. I was happy to be able to eat, but took no joy in the kill. Just me. Everyone is different.
 
I'm referring to firearms specifically as in your original post. You are back peddling or just don't get the point obviously.....No worries. You do you and good luck. Just try to keep your eyes open in a high tempo situation if you train with them closed. LMFAO.
I am referring to firearms as well. What is hard for you? I am not talking about SHOOTING with my eyes closed- are you serious?
 
I think you were discussing reloading in the dark and his point is there should be no difference between reloading in the dark and in the light. Your eyes should be looking for the threat not at the gun.... but then your point of practicing with your eyes closed is not a bad thing... it will get you to the same place of being able to manage the weapon with out looking at it and so I guess you are both right.
 
So field stripping in the dark should be the same as field stripping on the bench in broad daylight. 🤔. Y'all slay me. About that experience after dark, .......MEH.
 
. I have hunted for food in certain situations. I was happy to be able to eat, but took no joy in the kill. Just me. Everyone is different.
The elation of a successful hunt hasn't bothered me. I've slaughtered farm animals to feed the squimish, yet never had the sensation of a successful hunt while performing the task. If you only have the exuberance of unwrapping the cellophane before preparing a meal, well I guess we just can agree to disagree.
 
Just why are we discussing field stripping in a thread about loading in the dark?

As far as re-loading, as has been mentioned, it shouldn't matter light or dark, day or night. That should be natural.

If your personal defense weapon is unloaded, at night, in the dark...you might be doing it wrong ;)
 
It's a simple drill, that most have experience with. How many folks have actually defended or took a life after dark?

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Seems to be a common denominator of your posts... :rolleyes:

If you have to field strip your personal defense pistol in the dark you might wanna rethink your maintenance regimen.
 
Common denominator, you believe that you can perform as well in the dark as you can in daylight. Doubtful 🤔 Yet YMMV. I know that performance after dark takes much more practice and adherence to basic marksmanship skills. JMHO YMMV once again.
Edit, over confidence has killed more than Bad Basic Marksmanship Skills. Perhaps more than my Humble Opinion?
 
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Common denominator, you believe that you can perform as well in the dark as you can in daylight. Doubtful 🤔 Yet YMMV. I know that performance after dark takes much more practice and adherence to basic marksmanship skills. JMHO YMMV once again.
Edit, over confidence has killed more than Bad Basic Marksmanship Skills. Perhaps more than my Humble Opinion?

The thread title and the OP have nothing to do with what you are babbling about. If you want to talk field stripping in the dark, perhaps you should consider starting a thread on that subject rather than hijacking someone else's thread 🤷‍♂️
 
And I thought this was a thread about performing drills at hone which honed skills that might be required under an actual stress situation? Either dropping a thumb safety, reloading in the middle of the night when awoken by surprise, or just practicing in broad daylight on the one way range. Guess I got it wrong? Care to further enlighten me? 🤔
 
IOne of my drills is to lock and load with eyes closed or blindfolded I no longer break down and clean that way because I don't have to sit in a ditch or a woods in the rain. However, one never knows when one's home will be intruded . Does anyone else do similar drills for speed?
See post #1 the OP no longer fieldstrips in the dark, yet one never knows when that might be useful. 🤔 Good time to tactically Withdraw.
 
Now about that speedloader on a wheelgun? Most folks are just fumbling in the dark.
 

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So anyone that believes that they can reload a wheel gun while keeping the front sight on a moving aggressor in the dark is either inexperienced, a Damned Fool, or a Liar. Keeping the front sight on a moving aggressor in the dark with a tritium sight during a mag recharge with a semiautomatic, well that's a different story. JMHO YMMV.
 
Low light, like at night? Guess that's why folks with firearms not equiped in such a manner had to aim low in low light to compensate. It's a natural reaction to raise the front sight higher in low light to get a better sight picture. Basic Marksmanship 101. Hitting what you aim at isn't supposed to be hard.

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I'm shocked a man of your great spec war ninjaness experiences had to fall back on Google foo tactics!...but then again anybody can be whatever they want to be when they master the art of Google.....
 
Well, you know how it goes in the modern Internet world, you could post hours of videos by worlds best shooting performers and nobody would bother to watch. But a small article from Google gets everyone's attention. Nowadays, if it's on Google it has to be true? 😂
 
It's a simple drill, that most have experience with. How many folks have actually defended or took a life after dark?

I've said this before, you spend a lot of time trying to convince us of something that most don't care about. Are you really trying to convince yourself?
 

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