Does spelling count?

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I often post on various forums and spell check sometimes works or not. (sp) what do you think I mean with it. Are you not of an adult enough to realize what I possible an implying ....? Sometimes my thinker isn't working at its best, BUT my heart is trying to say something I HOPE WILL HELP someone else... if you miss it....... worry about it in 20 - 30 years from now if you are still here..
 
mohavesam said:
Did you mean to ask "Does spelling matter?" or possibly "Does math count?"

"Does spelling count?" - Only to the literate. :roll: :roll:
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Hi,

Sam, to your question, no, but regarding the comment, you're correct: spelling does "count" to the literate just as much as it "matters."

Are you close to your dictionary and thesaurus? If not, I'll be happy to wait until you find and check the definition as well as synonyms of the intransitive verb "count" and conversely, synonyms for the verb "matter."

Hey, I'll even make it easy for you: you can check definition 4a here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/count and synonyms under verb 2 here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/count as well as synonyms for "matter" under the verb section here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/matter

English is quite the fun language, especially for those not possessed of inflexible minds! Wouldst thou not agree, good Sir? ;)

Rick C
 
Bull Barrel said:
Language evolves? Seems to me a definition is definite. Is a dog now an anvil?
The language only changes because people are too lazy to learn proper English and schools won't teach it.
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Egads, methinks yon varlet fails to observe the obvious. Prithy thee knows not that language evolves? Read some Chaucer. It's in English but old English. Tell me our language hasn't evolved. Even some common words change their usage. Impact. Was only a noun until recently it's changed to being both a noun and a verb. Used to be you'd say, "had an impact on" but now you can equally properly say, "the object impacted on..."
 
Robes said:
Well gents,...we can agree to disagree. I won't go into it except to give this one example of the first guy I worked for. I was in Public Accounting. He gave me a desk, calculator, briefcase and a dictionary. He expected me to use them all. When writing up an annual report, back in the days before a computer and spell check, you created your report in writing. He told me that people would judge me by the way I talked and the way I wrote. He gave me, what I believe to be, some great advice/ direction. During the 45 yrs in the finance industry it has served me well AND my post retirement job as a proof reader has been very lucrative.

I do not act as the "spelling police". It is not my place. But.....some posts act as proof-positive that some folks must have been sleeping during English class.....
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I have to totally agree with these statements. Anyone can make excuses for not doing something; in this case spelling properly. Sitting next to my computer is a dictionary that is well used and is about 4 inches thick. It contains LOTS of words. I also use spell-checker when posting. Now, I may not use the correct 'word' but the one I use is generally spelled correctly. Being lazy is no excuse.
 
Add me to the list of people who agree. Like it or not, in those situations where it really matters, you are being judged by your written communication skills.
 
TitanX said:
Spelling only doesn't count in a world, in which you don't mind people thinking you're less intelligent than you actually are.

IMHO, everything you do in life, should be on a 'best efforts' basis. Be the best you can be. Spell checkers can help you.
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In fact, I would even go as far, to say... How we present ourselves in the world is a direct reflection of who we are within! It represents everything we stand for as well. "If you don't care enough to do / spell it right..." the message is impacted, and by extension, everyone else presenting that message. "Ignorance has no place in pro-gun ownership!"
 
Language evolves due to laziness. People don't want to use the proper way so tbey accept imprperlanguage. Doesn't make it proper.

And my peeve is putting "pre" on the front of an ajective or verb, especially in past tense.
For example, "preheat your oven". You can't preheat it, you can only heat it. Pre means before, and attached to the word heat it means to heat before you heat.
Then preheated. The proper term is heated, with the -ed meaning past tense or has been done. Adding pre to that would be doing it before you do it after you do it.

Or, "preread". How can you read it before you read it? Either you read it or you don't.

This is misused in so many ways it's not funny.

"Pre drill a hole" Wouldn't justbe "Drill a hole"? If you drill it before you drill it when do you drillit?
 
There is a large sign down by the beach:

Plane rides only $25: FUNN!

I used to tell my kids that I would not get in a plane with someone who could not spell "fun"
 
THIS IS FOR REAL! Just saw an online ad for a "Roger GP-100. Comes with 2 sleep loaders.

I kid ya'll not!

Mike
 
Bull Barrel said:
And my peeve is putting "pre" on the front of an ajective or verb, especially in past tense.
For example, "preheat your oven". You can't preheat it, you can only heat it. Pre means before, and attached to the word heat it means to heat before you heat.
Then preheated. The proper term is heated, with the -ed meaning past tense or has been done. Adding pre to that would be doing it before you do it after you do it.
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Hi,

Ohferhevvinssakes, BB, are you EVER going to allow yourself the luxury of opening a dictionary to let it show you the error of your thinking concerning such use of the prefix (and please don't ask how can you fix something before you fix it) "pre"? :roll:

Methinks your English teacher did you no favors by failing to teach you to appreciate one of the great beauties of the English language, that being its flexibility.

Rick C
 
Preheat-prior to HEATING, not baking. Prior to baking would be prebaking.

My English teacher taught not to mix tenses. And she also taught you can't use future tense with a verb. "Predrill"...no, just drill. "Preheat"...no, just heat.
"Premix"...no, just mix. And the gas with 2 stroke oil in it...mixED.
 
Colour or Color

Flavour or Flavor

Cheque or Check

Grey or Gray

Leathal or Lethal

I pre-drill a 3/8" hole with a 1/4" bit.
 
If I am fixin' to cook something at 350F and the oven is off, before the oven temperature reaches the desired temperature it is in fact NOT heating but preheating...once it reaches 350F it would be done preheating and is now "heating" thus, "pre"
 
George Carlin said you can't pre-board an aircraft. (pre board,pre-board or preboard?)

What would Aaron Spelling have entered?
 
Kevin said:
If I am fixin' to cook something at 350F and the oven is off, before the oven temperature reaches the desired temperature it is in fact NOT heating but preheating...once it reaches 350F it would be done preheating and is now "heating" thus, "pre"
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It is in fact heating. If it isn't when does it heat?
And why aren't you prefixin to cook something? You prove preheating is incorrect. When you turn on the oven it heats. When it is done preheating it heats? It shouldn't need to since it had already heated.

Carlin was right. You can't do something before you do it.
 
"Pre" is a prefix. "Heat" is the root word. When a prefix is added to a root word the combination changes the meaning and creates a new word. This is a very common and perfectly correct usage of the English language.
 
Bull Barrel said:
Preheat-prior to HEATING, not baking. Prior to baking would be prebaking.

My English teacher taught not to mix tenses. And she also taught you can't use future tense with a verb. "Predrill"...no, just drill. "Preheat"...no, just heat.
"Premix"...no, just mix. And the gas with 2 stroke oil in it...mixED.
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Hi,

Whatever she did teach you, it would appear she didn't prepare ("No, no, you can't pare before you pare!") you well for discussions such as this, which can be easily put to rest with a good dictionary. Merriam-Webster and Oxford are two names you SHOULD be familiar with BEFORE entering into a battle of wits unarmed.

Rick C
 
Rick Courtright said:
Bull Barrel said:
Preheat-prior to HEATING, not baking. Prior to baking would be prebaking.

My English teacher taught not to mix tenses. And she also taught you can't use future tense with a verb. "Predrill"...no, just drill. "Preheat"...no, just heat.
"Premix"...no, just mix. And the gas with 2 stroke oil in it...mixED.
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Hi,

Whatever she did teach you, it would appear she didn't prepare ("No, no, you can't pare before you pare!") you well for discussions such as this, which can be easily put to rest with a good dictionary. Merriam-Webster and Oxford are two names you SHOULD be familiar with BEFORE entering into a battle of wits unarmed.

Rick C
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Yep.
 
Hot water heater. Who has one of those? Why do you need to heat your hot water? etc. etc.

close proximity --------------- proximity
completely unanimous ------- unanimous
consensus of opinion --------- consensus
each and every --------------- each or every
end result --------------------- result
exactly the same ------------- the same
he/she is a person who ------ he/she
basic essentials --------------- essentials
in spite of the fact that ------- although
job functions ------------------ job or functions
new innovation --------------- innovation
one and the same ------------ the same
personal opinion -------------- opinion
refer back --------------------- refer
summarize briefly ------------ summarize
surrounding circumstances -- circumstances
past history ------------------- history
very unique ------------------- unique
and also ----------------------- and or also

Personally, if it sounds right to me, considering everything I have heard and read, then it is fine. :D
 
Jim, I was going to say your list is very unique, but I see that is on the list. I hear "very unique" quite often.

I bet this list is said most often by women. It is proven they will speak more words than men by quite a margin.
 
wolfsong said:
"Pre" is a prefix. "Heat" is the root word. When a prefix is added to a root word the combination changes the meaning and creates a new word. This is a very common and perfectly correct usage of the English language.
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Following your logic, there could be such a thing as postheating. You know, what you do to leftovers. In fact, a prefix is just a particle. It should not change the meaning of the root word.
 
TitanX said:
Robes said:
Well gents,...we can agree to disagree. I won't go into it except to give this one example of the first guy I worked for. I was in Public Accounting. He gave me a desk, calculator, briefcase and a dictionary. He expected me to use them all. When writing up an annual report, back in the days before a computer and spell check, you created your report in writing. He told me that people would judge me by the way I talked and the way I wrote. He gave me, what I believe to be, some great advice/ direction. During the 45 yrs in the finance industry it has served me well AND my post retirement job as a proof reader has been very lucrative.

I do not act as the "spelling police". It is not my place. But.....some posts act as proof-positive that some folks must have been sleeping during English class.....
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Agreed.

The Internet, smart phones, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are all dumbing down the culture.

The language is going to Hell and software at all levels is being written to operate within the limitations of a phone touch screen. So much for precision, accuracy, richness of features, raw capability.

And so much for assuming that Americans have received an education. There we are back on the subject of having ceded our education industry to the left. Oops - that sounds political.

It's all about SIMPLICITY (and lost functionality) now, on top of the assumption that Americans are dumb.
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Perhaps a better usage would be "Americans are ignorant." They certainly aren't dumb, especially left wing protesters. :wink:
 
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