Does spelling count?

[Bull Barrel]

No, my logic would not allow postheating. I am saying preheating is improper because you can't heat before you heat, therefore you can't do the opposite.

 

[Fox Mike]

Hot water heater. Who has one of those? Why do you need to heat your hot water? etc. etc.

close proximity --------------- proximity
completely unanimous ------- unanimous
consensus of opinion --------- consensus
each and every --------------- each or every
end result --------------------- result
exactly the same ------------- the same
he/she is a person who ------ he/she
basic essentials --------------- essentials
in spite of the fact that ------- although
job functions ------------------ job or functions
new innovation --------------- innovation
one and the same ------------ the same
personal opinion -------------- opinion
refer back --------------------- refer
summarize briefly ------------ summarize
surrounding circumstances -- circumstances
past history ------------------- history
very unique ------------------- unique
and also ----------------------- and or also

Personally, if it sounds right to me, considering everything I have heard and read, then it is fine.

Jimbo, while that list is to the point it has nothing to do with the original post. We were speaking of SPELLING, not grammar. That subject could cover another month of posts.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Jimbo, while that list is to the point it has nothing to do with the original post. We were speaking of SPELLING, not grammar. That subject could cover another month of posts.

I was just 'going with the flow' of the thread. I suggest the person that changed the subject (I think it was Bull Barrel) should put up a detour sign when he veers the subject . like this.

 

[graygun]

When Paul Fix was conceived,was he a prefix?

 

[wolfsong]

"Pre" is a prefix. "Heat" is the root word. When a prefix is added to a root word the combination changes the meaning and creates a new word. This is a very common and perfectly correct usage of the English language.

Following your logic, there could be such a thing as postheating. You know, what you do to leftovers. In fact, a prefix is just a particle. It should not change the meaning of the root word.

Here's a few common prefixes. They, when correctly combined with a root word, do indeed change the meaning of the root word.

de
dis
ex
il
im
in
mis
non
pre
re
un

It's not my logic, it's a grammatical fact. "il" combined with "legal" most definitely changes the meaning of the root word. I didn't make the rules.

 

[Bull Barrel]

The difference is it a noun, adjective or verb?

In punctuation, what drive's me nut's is using apostrophe's on word's that are plural instead of posessive.

 

[Pal Val]

"Pre" is a prefix. "Heat" is the root word. When a prefix is added to a root word the combination changes the meaning and creates a new word. This is a very common and perfectly correct usage of the English language.

Following your logic, there could be such a thing as postheating. You know, what you do to leftovers. In fact, a prefix is just a particle. It should not change the meaning of the root word.

Here's a few common prefixes. They, when correctly combined with a root word, do indeed change the meaning of the root word.

de
dis
ex
il
im
in
mis
non
pre
re
un

It's not my logic, it's a grammatical fact. "il" combined with "legal" most definitely changes the meaning of the root word. I didn't make the rules.

Not exactly, Wolf! "il" combined with "legal" makes a whole new word - "illegal". Combining root words with particles is an acceptable way to make new words in conglomerating languages, such as English. German, another conglomerating language, makes it even more extreme, with words such as "Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaften."

 

[wolfsong]

Val, are not our individual suppositions truly a case of semantics?

Sources exist to support the arguments of us both.

 

[Pal Val]

Val, are not our individual suppositions truly a case of semantics?

Sources exist to support the arguments of us both.

I'm not going to argue with your conclusion. Life is too short, and we have better things to do with our time.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

I premeditated how to prepare dinner tonight. I had to preheat the oven first.

 

[volshooter]

Yes, spelling does count. Just for some of those educated sticklers. Our youths use abbreviations for terms.
Being from the south, I use spell check so ya'all can understand and not grip. Still I need to type the words we use to emphasize the true speech occasionally. I know all ya'all can understand my post.
For the next week or so, I will post in southern native tongue with spelling as we pronounce words.

Come on, as long as you understand the post, get your panties out of wad and enjoy.
There are so many speech patterns in the US that we should enjoy.

 

[Bull Barrel]

I premeditated how to prepare dinner tonight. I had to preheat the oven first.

I just meditated as I heated the oven.
Doesn't meditate actually mean you thought about something before you did it?
Kind of like preplanning. Redundant.

 

[Rick Courtright]

I just meditated as I heated the oven.
Doesn't meditate actually mean you thought about something before you did it?
Kind of like preplanning. Redundant.

Hi,

BB, you REALLY need to get your hands on a dictionary. And open it. And, and... wait for it: READ the da(r)n thing!

The English language covers an entire world you stubbornly refuse to see. Ignorance is excusable for those who try to overcome it--none of us came into this world knowing a thing! But for those who could learn, but choose not to, well, what's your excuse?

Rick C

 

[Fox Mike]

I premeditated how to prepare dinner tonight. I had to preheat the oven first.

I just meditated as I heated the oven.
Doesn't meditate actually mean you thought about something before you did it?
Kind of like preplanning. Redundant.

Merriam-Webster
pre-heat: vb: to heat before-hand
esp: to heat (an oven) to a designated temperature before using.

 

[Bull Barrel]

Pre means before. When attached to a verb it means doing the definition of the verb before doing it, which is impossible. And you definitely cant have pre on a word ith the suffix "ed". Ed is the past tense, meaning it has been done. Why would you put futere tense, "pre" on a word which mean you have already done it in the past? For example, preheaed. Heated is the proper word. I heated the oven. I will heat the oven. I can't preheat the oven because then I would do it before I do it.
I saw an earlier post using the word precooked. Cooked is the correct term. I cooked some fish. Not precooked. You areusing both future and past tense in the same word.

I do have a dictionary. It is quite old and about a foot thick. Verbs with "pre" are not in it.

 

[volshooter]

Yes we must T. We have to understand what they are talking about. We don't need to use the lingo. Think of as intel.

 

[WMB30]

If I knew all this bs was coming before it arrived would it be prebs

 

[Bull Barrel]

Pre bs isproper because in this case bs isn't an action word, it's a noun.
But you can't prebs someone.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Pre bs isproper because in this case bs isn't an action word, it's a noun.
But you can't prebs someone.

Hi,

Don't BS us, BB. Not an action word? BS.

It looks like both verb and noun forms are in use here. Did dear ol' Miss Fuddy Duddy the English teacher let you in on the secret of how the same word can frequently function as multiple parts of speech? Or HOW the use of the word in the sentence is the controlling factor as to which one covers it at that time?

There's an old saying to the effect that "Life is comedy for those who think, tragedy for those who feel." There's a corollary between life and the English language here...

Rick C

 

[Bull Barrel]

If you noticed I used BS as a noun and verb. Didn't you learn about those?

That's BS (noun).
Don't BS me (verb). You can't preBS someone.
You can talk to them preBS.

The controlling acronym here is BS. So you can't BS before you BS. You can only BS when you BS.

 

[Rick Courtright]

If you noticed I used BS as a noun and verb. Didn't you learn about those?

That's BS (noun).
Don't BS me (verb). You can't preBS someone.
You can talk to them preBS.

The controlling acronym here is BS. So you can't BS before you BS. You can only BS when you BS.

Hi,

Yawn...

Rick C

 

[Galaxiedan]

 

[volshooter]

Gonna leave it to you folks that are educated. Have too much on my plate to dicker about this subject.