Does a non functioning firearm require an FFL transfer?

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This is mostly true, however there's a semi-local FFL who successfully lobbied the state govt to pass universal background checks so that he could profit from the transfer fees he'd get as a result. So, there are some.
 
I really did not take offense and was just poking the bear to a degree.... it's more I read some of the post and I'm sure it's just me. I for sure would not want to lose the input of those hear that are FFL's and actually know the laws (for good or bad) better than me.

As a side note about our rights or lack of them: I was reading in the political forum on Thursday about the Supreme Court decision in regards to the 'may issue laws' of some states.... and saw someone making a comment about the notion that this decision expanded gun rights and that it really restored some rights to some citizens in certain states.... the point being I walked out yesterday morning and picked up our supposed local paper The Greenville News and there on the front page was the headline: "Expanding gun rights in the U.S."
I think I will write a letter to the editor.
 
Well, you can take a hand gun apart and ship someone just the frame only. Since the frame has the guns serial number on it, it is considered a gun and must go through an FFL.

That should pretty much answer your question.
 
Well, you can take a hand gun apart and ship someone just the frame only. Since the frame has the guns serial number on it, it is considered a gun and must go through an FFL.

That should pretty much answer your question.

What would be the point of that? Might as well ship the complete firearm to the ffl.
 
One of the anti's issues is you can buy an unfinished AR receiver that has no serial number because it requires a few more holes drilled in it and then proceed to finish it and then buy all the other parts and build your own 'unregistered' and we say 'undocumented' firearm. And all this with out going through an FFL.
 
What would be the point of that? Might as well ship the complete firearm to the ffl.
I was just giving you an example of what shipping laws require but I guess you could not figure that out. Keep thinking about it. It might suddenly make sense to you. A cylinder frame certainly can not fire a cartridge can it? Is it a gun or is it not a gun?
 
There is no shipping law. It's called the USC
( United States Code), under the firearms titles, administered by the BATF. The US Postal Service and private shippers will ship anything package you give them to process. If you ship contraband, you would be prosecuted under the USC , by referral of BATF.
 
Not technically a FFL, but I have a C&R license. I have purchased long arms and had them delivered by the USPS . one held at the local post office and they had an idea of what it was, with no problems. I also had a handgun delivered to my house by UPS. Both items were over 50 years old, but the same model or essientally the same model are currently being manufatured. Had I not had a C&R license I suppose they would have been "contraband"
 
It's good to know this information is relegated ONLY to FFL holders and not the general public. I do have one question though, when you turn in your FFL do the feds come and denuralize all sensitive information you may know?

Don't forget the OP came to internet for legal advice.
These are important questions and there are tons of clueless gun owners. Many learn how not to become a felon by reading these. This is why it's so important for every gun owner to be involved with their state 2A organization at an absolute minimum.
 
This is mostly true, however there's a semi-local FFL who successfully lobbied the state govt to pass universal background checks so that he could profit from the transfer fees he'd get as a result. So, there are some.
I hope a Boycott was organized and he was run out of business. Anyone who shops there deserves to loose their guns.
 
I did not know that about NM. Does that mean you can not give your son or daughter your old hunting rifle? Or buy your young son his first .22 ? That is unamerican.
I will avoid NM now, and you should get involved local politics and move for changing that law.
 
But I think the ATF considers antique anything made before 1898. ❓❓
 
But I think the ATF considers antique anything made before 1898. ❓❓

The language used in 18 USC 921(a)(16) appears to be "in or before 1898", so basically before 1899. (Typical federal approach to things: making it 1900 would have been simple and easy to remember, so of course they did NOT do that.) Full quote linked below:


Not being a lawyer, consider this IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc.
:)
 
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