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Fitness app Strava lights up staff at military bases

Online fitness tracker Strava has published a "heatmap" showing the paths its users log as they run or cycle.
It appears to show the structure of foreign military bases in countries including Syria and Afghanistan as soldiers move around them. The US military was examining the heatmap, a spokesman said.

How does Strava work?
San Francisco-based Strava provides an app that uses a mobile phone's GPS to track a subscriber's exercise activity.
It uses the collected data, as well as that from fitness devices such as Fitbit and Jawbone, to enable people to check their own performances and compare them with others.
It says it has 27 million users around the world.
Russian troops have been tracked in Ukraine or in Syria by studying their social media interactions or geo-location data from their mobile phone images.
Each piece of evidence is a fragment, but when added together it could pose a significant risk to security - in this case highlighting the location of formerly secret bases or undisclosed patterns of military activity.
Which bases are affected and why?
The app is far more popular in the West than elsewhere and major cities are aglow with jogging routines.
But in remote areas foreign military bases stand out as isolated "hotspots" and the activities of a single jogger can be illuminated on dark backgrounds
A US base at Tanf in Syria, near the Iraqi border, is an illuminated oblong, while forward bases in Helmand, Afghanistan, are also lit up.
Although US bases have been frequently mentioned it is by no means just an American problem.
 
I'm safe! I gave up jogging for Lent about twenty years ago, and have not
restarted since. As to that "anti" social media . . . . what's social about it?
Most people on it have nothing better to do with their phone or home
computer, so good for them. I use my cell phone as a phone, and only
when there is something I need to say, or my daughter needs me to know.

I'm safe. :wink:
 
Every Congressman and elected official (and LEO) should wear one, and be required to release on-duty travel records & B/A level data to the public every 30 days. If I were king...
 
I'm a runner and my Garmin watch will track and record several data points. I've
got it set to upload to Garmin's site but do not have it set to "public".
I can share it if I want but it's not automatic.
Dave
 
Not a problem for me. I quit running after my final bi-yearly PT test, about two months prior to my retirement. If anyone wants my location they can stop by the house and see where I am sitting.
 
That is a little sacary.

Why would anyone not turn off the tracking on their phone?

Unless you are unconscious and need to be located what is the purpose of tracking software?
 
Jimbo357mag said:
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Why would anyone not turn off the tracking on their phone?
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Because the vast majority of people who are "connected" are clueless as to how much they are leaving open to public scrutiny. Some, in fact, seem to making a deliberate effort to be ignorant.... look at some of the tweets and facebook posts that should never see the light of day, or are sent to the wrong people.
 
A couple of years ago, a family on our block, all of whom were hopelessly addicted to Facebook, put online daily detailed reports of their great 2-week beach vacation. They came home to an empty house. Turns out some neighbors had noticed a moving van and crew at the house one day, but just assumed they were having some work done while out of town...

And as a Court Reporter I cannot even begin to tell you how many divorce-case depositions I have sat in on where a spouse was asked, "Are you having an affair with X?", denied it, and then been confronted with screenshots of their social-media page rife with incriminating posts and photos...

Smart Phones -- the quickest route to stupidity!
 
I leave location services on for my family on my phone. Also some apps that I use when traveling. Don't use Facebook so that isn't an issue. If I ever think it's an issue I'll turn it off.
 
DOD already cautions troops and civilian employees to disable these functions on their phones. Secretary Mattis is looking into it, so I would expect more attention (read UCMJ for military) in the future.
 
make private cell phones and all the tech crap unauthorized on bases and missions. kinda easy fix id say....
was a time having a camera on a navy ship would land you in the brig unless you registered it with master at arms.
aim a camera at a sub in port? off you went in cuffs. film destroyed.
as late as the 80s-90's only the OIC had a (portable phone) for emergency use only.
 
I have location services turned on for some apps while I'm using them, especially the apps that are useless without it(weather radar, maps, etc). If Big Brother wants to know what I'm having for dinner tonight or what concert or sporting event I'm going to I don't really care.
 
For my 40 years of Nationwide traveling on a weekly basis I used pay phones and a pocket full of change or my phone credit card number....I had no social media because there was not any...I didn't have any kind of tracking as there was none and I probably didn't want to be tracked anyway....When we got in some kind of a jam or needed help we managed to figure it out and get things under control.

I hate to say it and will probably be flamed really good but I got a feeling many folks today can't manage without someone taking care of them...kids learn from the earliest of times that if you plug a key into a wall socket..no problem because the "folks" installed special kid proof sockets...we just got knocked on our can and didn't do it again...Kids get participation trophies because today nobody should ever lose.....the kids have GPS units on them (maybe even have chips installed) and God forbid they ever be out of sight for more than about 3 minutes.....We fully rely on electronic leashes that keep us in constant communication with others...we wear necklaces that detect if we fall (Glad I quit drinking long ago or I'd have someone coming after me all the time)...we have things on our phones that find the phone for us when we lose it...we got social media that tells the world when we go to the store (so the bad guys can come and break in).

I don't want to fasten my seat belt and often don't just because I like to feel like a criminal now and then...I ran with a pencil as a kid and can still see....I ate raw potato and didn't get worms...and if my car is parked somewhere (and it's a really distinctive car)...do not stop, don't see if I'm there and don't ask me what I was doing.

When I heard about the flap concerning "fitness monitors" I wondered about that whole idea....if someone is not fit their commanding officer is going to know if he/she cares and someone will get extra physical duty...why do we need to have a special monitoring program for fitness? Is the next thing to put sobriety detectors in all the service members cars to see if they need to join some gubberment sponsored stop drinking program? Any program for checking their underwear so in case they get in an accident the folks at the hospital won't be embarassed?

We spend too much time, money and resources "keeping an eye on others"...this must be what Hillarity meant when she said "it takes a village"..seems we take half the population to monitor the other half.

I'll not be back in hiding and my activities will be my secret!
 
I do the same as Captain America. I use Settings to turn on location services only when I am actually using that app. On a related note, some of the apps that keep track of your location are big battery power users, so you need to learn how to turn it off. For example, if you use Waze as a GPS device when driving, unless you put it into Sleep Mode by hitting the power icon when you are finished using it the app keeps running and will rapidly use up your battery.

Even though I do not run anymore because running is just not feasible with two prosthetic knees, I use a running app called Runkeeper (a free app on my Iphone) to track my walks in terms of time, distance walked, and a map showing where I walked.
 
No.
"Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead." Ben Franklin
I can see the value of tracking/surveillance devices for parents of small children, people with medical conditions-parolees, etc. And the cell phone has caused the pay phone to disappear.
I visit a lot of forums but only discuss my activities if they are relevant to a discussion or may be of interest to others, or to share information. What biographical details I give out are to establish my credibility-my military experience, my shooting experience. Otherwise I feel no need to broadcast.
 
Enigma said:
DOD already cautions troops and civilian employees to disable these functions on their phones. Secretary Mattis is looking into it, so I would expect more attention (read UCMJ for military) in the future.

Enigma,
When I was in the military, if we communicated from the ship, we were eligible for courts marshal.
it was called espionage. ('50's, 60's and 70's) Now it is called Social Media.
Blackie
 
I find this constant need to broadcast one's activities and location a form of exhibitionism.
And a lack of communications discipline is one of the military's greatest failings.
 
1911shooter
40+ years ago the chief radioman & I were into HAM radio. When we were in port we talked to local HAM's in the countries we pulled into. HF channels. got some good info just like truckers into CB radio passing towns and asking for recommendations. Never said we wore Navy blue - just mobile afloat.
 
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