DMV closed?

[xTopGun]

I believe that this was an element of the PATRIOT act. All IDs must now expire and are no longer valid which is why military retirees have to get new IDs every few years.

hmmm, I'd forgotten all about that it, and how it splintered into such BS rules . . . . .

 

[M118LR]

I believe that this was an element of the PATRIOT act. All IDs must now expire and are no longer valid which is why military retirees have to get new IDs every few years.

My ID expired a month before my 65 birthday, just so Uncle Sam could ensure that Medicare part A&B. Then issued a iD INDEF.

 

[Yaworski]

My ID expired a month before my 65 birthday, just so Uncle Sam could ensure that Medicare part A&B. Then issued a iD INDEF.

You may find that you need to get a new one. Then again SEAL astronaut double naught spies may have different rules.

 

[dadstillsurfs]

If you are a AAA member, you can do CA DMV registration business at the Member Service counter. No licenses, and I don't know if you can do ID's or not. Call or check AAA website under Member Services

 

[Fox Mike]

I believe that this was an element of the PATRIOT act. All IDs must now expire and are no longer valid which is why military retirees have to get new IDs every few years.

I believe your information source is flawed. My military ID, and my wife's, say "INDEF" in the expire section. I just got the new style ID in March. The first one I ever changed since 1997, when I retired, and didn't need to do that but was there to get the wifes changed from an 'expire' date to the INDEF. Mine always said 'INDEF'.

 

[Gator89]

I believe your information source is flawed. My military ID, and my wife's, say "INDEF" in the expire section. I just got the new style ID in March. The first one I ever changed since 1997, when I retired, and didn't need to do that but was there to get the wifes changed from an 'expire' date to the INDEF. Mine always said 'INDEF'.

I had to plug INDEF into my search bar, never heard of it before. The vast majority of us have id's that expire.

I also suspect that nearly every DoD INDEF id holder also has some other state issued id card, especially if a motor vehicle is to be operated legally. My mother has Tricare for life, she voluntarily gave up her driver license and obtained a state issued picture id.

Validity of “INDEF” IDs​

An “INDEF” on a U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) Uniformed Services Identification (USID) card means “indefinite” expiration — the card is valid for the lifetime of the holder, barring any change in eligibility status TheGunZone. This designation is typically issued to:

• Retired service members and certain dependents of retirees
• Surviving spouses of deceased service members or retirees
• Medal of Honor recipients and their eligible dependents TheGunZone

These IDs grant lifetime access to benefits and privileges such as base access, healthcare, and other entitlements, without the need for periodic re-verification TheGunZone.

 

[Yaworski]

I believe your information source is flawed.

Very possible. My info is based on a rant by an retired Army officer who was furious that he had to get a new ID.

I did find this online.

Yes, a retired military ID card does expire, depending on the type of card you hold and your age:

• Cards with specific expiration dates: Many retiree ID cards (including the Next Generation Uniformed Services ID card) have set expiration dates printed on them, which are usually valid for four years or align with key milestones like turning 65. [1, 2, 3]
• Indefinite (INDEF) cards: Some older paper-based cards and newer cards issued to retirees over age 65 display "INDEF" (Indefinite) instead of an expiration date. While the Department of Defense is transitioning everyone to the newer plastic Next Generation cards, the older laminated INDEF cards remain valid.

 

[Gator89]

When my wife came out and told me this, we went back in and I tried discussing the matter with the branch manager, even suggested that she contact her supervisor to resolve the issue then and there which she refused to do. So, I simply asked her to fill out a fund's withdrawal slip for all our accounts holding. When she looked at our accounts and how much was being withdrawn, she tried to back pedal, but that door had closed. Then as she was processing that slip, I called a friend who just happened to be a board of directors' members and calmly explained the issue and why we were leaving this financial institution. He was cordial but not overall please and stated he'd pass the matter along to the board for review. I'm not sure what happened to that manager, but I understand that she disappeared from that branch shortly thereafter. No idea if reassigned/relocated or terminated . . . . all over a simple asinine rule which greatly impacted the customer and proper service

The rule may be asinine, but the rule comes from G, not just the bank.

Why banks require unexpired ID
Federal regulations under the Customer Identification Program (CIP) require banks to verify identity with “unexpired government-issued identification” such as a driver’s license or passport legalclarity.org. This applies especially when opening an account or when a bank is relying on a document for verification. For existing customers, banks may still require current ID to confirm you are the account holder, though some may use discretion if you explain your situation.



To most bank employees, the risk of accepting an expired id outweighs the benefit of accepting it. If breaking company rules could get an employee fired, then they should not break the rules.

 

[xTopGun]

The rule may be asinine, but the rule comes from G, not just the bank.

Why banks require unexpired ID
Federal regulations under the Customer Identification Program (CIP) require banks to verify identity with “unexpired government-issued identification” such as a driver’s license or passport legalclarity.org. This applies especially when opening an account or when a bank is relying on a document for verification. For existing customers, banks may still require current ID to confirm you are the account holder, though some may use discretion if you explain your situation.



To most bank employees, the risk of accepting an expired id outweighs the benefit of accepting it. If breaking company rules could get an employee fired, then they should not break the rules.

That I was aware of, but a 30-year customer whose photo ID they have on their system which was mere days (? 9 if I recall correctly) is/was ridiculous, ergo my phone call and complaint.
This same at one point had a policy of making customers change their online password every 6 months, or you'd get locked out. Also, if you didn't access your online account every 30 days you'd get locked out. It was definitely time for a change - for the better

 

[Jeepnik]

must see. it tells me this way of doing business has been around for a long time.
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The books were so much better. The closest failure I can come to in making a movie out of a great book is the Dune movies.

 

[M118LR]

You may find that you need to get a new one. Then again SEAL astronaut double naught spies may have different rules.

Only wish I was that young again. But let's get it right, only one naught in my three digit class. Difference between MI5/6 and America.