Embarrassingly this is deleted. Should have thought more on the subject before posting.
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Darn meddling kids
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I have been fortunate that I have had a "man cave/den" that nobody really ventures into aside from me, Son, and my buddies. Thats where my gun safes/reloading and all my taxidermy mounts are...(wife had much to do with that decision). It's my space for my stuff (she has her "craft/stamp room).
My Son was always interested in that room, naturally. But he never had access to the safes until he was old enough to hunt alone. When friends were over, he asked permission to enter, because the door was usually locked, and even then I walked in first just to make sure. I trust him, and I know most his friends from being their football coach since they were 5 years old, but you never know....some of those kids were a tad on the wild side (they made the best defensive ends).
Why so cautious? Common sense right? Gun safety and all.....but many years ago, I lived in a rented townhome, and had only one small safe. My girls from a previous mistake....errr, um...."marriage" were young then, and spent 6 week summer visitation with me. I had just received a AR 15 complete upper. Unpacked it, examined it, and left it on my desk. My youngest Daughter, probably 6 at this time, had seen it and I didn't know. Didn't really think about it. A month or so after they went back to Utah, my lawyer received communication from my ex-wife's lawyer.....he received on my behalf a subpoena. I was also personally served at work ( my current Wife was with the Sheriffs Office then so I got a heads up). Yup....I won't go into details but I had to fly from MD to Utah to face charges of child endangerment plus others, and almost lost the little bit of custody I had. Apparently, according to my oldest Daughter, my ex would grill them upon arrival and make them describe anything new in my life...my youngest said "Daddy has a machine gun" or something like that.
Even though we are empty nesters since my youngest left for the Navy last year, I still remain very cautious. We now have a Grandson who visits, and wanders....child proofing this time around meant finding a new place for the house pistol, where he cant stumble into it, reach it or climb to it....and retention holster to keep it in.....you can never be too safe.
My Son was always interested in that room, naturally. But he never had access to the safes until he was old enough to hunt alone. When friends were over, he asked permission to enter, because the door was usually locked, and even then I walked in first just to make sure. I trust him, and I know most his friends from being their football coach since they were 5 years old, but you never know....some of those kids were a tad on the wild side (they made the best defensive ends).
Why so cautious? Common sense right? Gun safety and all.....but many years ago, I lived in a rented townhome, and had only one small safe. My girls from a previous mistake....errr, um...."marriage" were young then, and spent 6 week summer visitation with me. I had just received a AR 15 complete upper. Unpacked it, examined it, and left it on my desk. My youngest Daughter, probably 6 at this time, had seen it and I didn't know. Didn't really think about it. A month or so after they went back to Utah, my lawyer received communication from my ex-wife's lawyer.....he received on my behalf a subpoena. I was also personally served at work ( my current Wife was with the Sheriffs Office then so I got a heads up). Yup....I won't go into details but I had to fly from MD to Utah to face charges of child endangerment plus others, and almost lost the little bit of custody I had. Apparently, according to my oldest Daughter, my ex would grill them upon arrival and make them describe anything new in my life...my youngest said "Daddy has a machine gun" or something like that.
Even though we are empty nesters since my youngest left for the Navy last year, I still remain very cautious. We now have a Grandson who visits, and wanders....child proofing this time around meant finding a new place for the house pistol, where he cant stumble into it, reach it or climb to it....and retention holster to keep it in.....you can never be too safe.
Bad Barlow
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Sorry,but that's not a funny story.
OP
Yes you’re right. And believe me, my house isn’t in complete disarray. I only had the gun out to take pictures. It’s my fault for not thinking about my daughter having a friend over at the same time.
I suppose I posted this thinking about teaching teenagers gun safety. As I said my daughter knows the basic rules for gun safety.
Before she was born I had a cabinet I kept the few guns I had in it. But when she came, I very quickly realized I needed a safe. Now I only need a bigger safe.
May not be funny but it's worth sharing. Thank you. :)
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Things get blown out of proportion. Unfortunately it's something we have to deal with.
A kid seeing a gun with no ammunition around. There was no danger. In a perfect world it would be no different than a chain saw with no gas.
150 years ago in this country it would have been considered unsafe to leave a gun unloaded. Common sense was a common virtue. People of all ages expected a gun to be loaded.
Sad world we live in today.
@Kevin you have nothing to be embarrassed by.
A kid seeing a gun with no ammunition around. There was no danger. In a perfect world it would be no different than a chain saw with no gas.
150 years ago in this country it would have been considered unsafe to leave a gun unloaded. Common sense was a common virtue. People of all ages expected a gun to be loaded.
Sad world we live in today.
@Kevin you have nothing to be embarrassed by.
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XUSNORDIE the only people who make out in a situation like you described are the lawyers. Today with the antigun hysteria and red flag laws it doesn't take much for a gun owner to lose their rights. Lawyers know that game and play it to try to get the upper hand and to prove the other party as unhinged.
You are dead on correct.....and that's exactly what they tried to do....and aside from the cost of the trip from MD to UT there were the bills from my lawyer AND her lawyer (which was much higher than my lawyers). Fighting a custody battle across country was not easy and extremely costly.
Shakespeare was right! Most lawyers are a contemptible bunch of low life scumbags that rate lower than dog crap in my book.
They do have their place... I know there are some good jokes that can go along with that.. but I know a few and they are basically good people.... maybe just a necessary evil . Most folks have forgotten or don't know that Lawyers could not advertise until after 1972 when some lawyer sued the American Bar Association and it went all the way to the Supreme Court. It was considered unethical for both lawyers and doctors to advertise. Different world back then.
But that's no different than Kevin's story....thanks to Bad Barlow I could still read it.... not that unusual. I grew up with loaded guns around the house.... what the heck good are they if they aren't loaded.... but I understand also that times have changed.
But that's no different than Kevin's story....thanks to Bad Barlow I could still read it.... not that unusual. I grew up with loaded guns around the house.... what the heck good are they if they aren't loaded.... but I understand also that times have changed.
My daughter was taught at a young age that she could not enter the gun room under any circumstances without my permission. Even if I was in there already. She also knew that if she was curious or just wanted to handle the guns she was welcome to ask and I would accommodate her. There was one more rule she had to obey. NEVER mention I had guns to any of her friends. This was more as deterrent from letting others know where guns were in case a thief was listening in.
contender
Ruger Guru
One thing often lost in discussions like this is the simple fact that kids eventually become adults.
EDUCATION is the key to things.
Teach the kids about the dangers of improper gun handling. Teach them all about gun safety. Answer questions honestly & politely. Take them shooting. Let them EXPERIENCE the weight of a gun, the feel of recoil, (always start lower & work up to their comfort level,) the damage a bullet can do, (using old produce, bottles of water, etc,) so they LEARN without fear.
Often,, I hear people say; "I've never handled a gun," or "I've never shot a gun," and you can see & feel the fear in their words.
Kids soak up knowledge & education IF,, IF,, you do it correctly.
So even if a kid does see a gun,, they don't freak out or whatever over it. And if you have kids visiting,, firearm discussions should be brought forth with their parents prior to any visits. Kevin says they have known the other girls parents for 4-5 years. That time of friendship is when you get a feeling about how they may react to firearms. And of course,, you can discuss it if you feel you can.
EDUCATION is the key to things.
Teach the kids about the dangers of improper gun handling. Teach them all about gun safety. Answer questions honestly & politely. Take them shooting. Let them EXPERIENCE the weight of a gun, the feel of recoil, (always start lower & work up to their comfort level,) the damage a bullet can do, (using old produce, bottles of water, etc,) so they LEARN without fear.
Often,, I hear people say; "I've never handled a gun," or "I've never shot a gun," and you can see & feel the fear in their words.
Kids soak up knowledge & education IF,, IF,, you do it correctly.
So even if a kid does see a gun,, they don't freak out or whatever over it. And if you have kids visiting,, firearm discussions should be brought forth with their parents prior to any visits. Kevin says they have known the other girls parents for 4-5 years. That time of friendship is when you get a feeling about how they may react to firearms. And of course,, you can discuss it if you feel you can.
