Crazy 10/22 idea ...

[Shooter III]

Don't get me wrong I love my 10/22 and yet one thing that bugs me to no end is the fact the bolt does NOT LOCK OPEN on last round fired, the 10/22 has been around for decades and I do not understand why Ruger has not added this feature.
Personally I think they should come up with a rifle based upon the MARK III with an 18 inch barrel. My Mark III holds open on last round fired and after a couple of mods to my 22/45 I have ZERO failures to feed and eject, except for an occasional round that just won't go BANG. I think the Mark series pistols are a more reliably platform then the 10/22.

COMMENTS ....

 

[Jim Puke]

None of my hunting type auto rifles lock open on the last round.

 

[Shooter III]

None of my hunting type auto rifles lock open on the last round.

Thats just un-tactical ... LOL !!!

 

[Kevin]

Shooter III...
I can't stand the 10-22 not locking open on the last shot either. It drives me nuts. And you're right. The Mark series (factory stock) are more accurate than the factory stock 10-22. The only advantage is the 10-22 is more easily changed with aftermarket parts.

Now what about that SR22 rifle of yours in the other thread. That isn't factory stock is it? Does the bolt lock open on the last shot?

 

[contender]

I would say that due to the differences in design, it's not as feasible to get the 10/22 to lock open after the last shot is fired. Why? Well the MK series uses the magazine follower to activate the bolt lock. The rotary magazine for the 10/22 isn't designed to allow that to happen.
And, as noted, very few rifles, especially 22 RF semi-auto rifles lock open after the last shot is fired.

 

[Snake45]

I learned to count to ten when I was about four, so I don't see this as a huge problem. :mrgreen:

 

[Jim Puke]

I learned to count to ten when I was about four, so I don't see this as a huge problem. :mrgreen:

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[9x19]

There is an aftermarket last-shot hold open device... seems pricey to me and pointless for my uses. It will run with regular mags but requires a different bolt. Try here:

http://www.cstmtech.com

 

[Shooter III]

Shooter III...
I can't stand the 10-22 not locking open on the last shot either. It drives me nuts. And you're right. The Mark series (factory stock) are more accurate than the factory stock 10-22. The only advantage is the 10-22 is more easily changed with aftermarket parts.

Now what about that SR22 rifle of yours in the other thread. That isn't factory stock is it? Does the bolt lock open on the last shot?

Inside my SR22 rifle is a 10/22, so it will not lock open on last shot, Ruger uses a vendor to manufacture the housing it sits in, lots of AR15 stuff will fit it, so I bought a cheap Tapco butt stock and pistol grip ....
It looked like this when I bought it. >>> http://ruger.com/products/sr22Rifle/models.html <<<

 

[Shooter III]

I learned to count to ten when I was about four, so I don't see this as a huge problem. :mrgreen:

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Yeah, Yeah .... Still, its a feature I would like !

 

[Snake45]

I learned to count to ten when I was about four, so I don't see this as a huge problem. :mrgreen:

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Yeah, Yeah .... Still, its a feature I would like !

I'd like about a week in Hawaii with Sofia Vergara. THAT ain't gonna happen either! :wink: :mrgreen:

 

[Shooter III]

I'd like about a week in Hawaii with Sofia Vergara. THAT ain't gonna happen either! :wink: :mrgreen:

Sofia Vergara does nothing for me, on the other hand if it were Kate Beckinsale I would ..... Oh, never mind, I'll just have to settle for Betty Sue Steinbiser at the moment.

 

[toysoldier]

Google Ruger MkII carbine. They're out there.

 

[Shooter III]

Google Ruger MkII carbine. They're out there.

OK !

I'll be back after I look .. .. ..

 

[Shooter III]

Google Ruger MkII carbine. They're out there.

OK !

I'll be back after I look .. .. ..

Hmmmm, I only found one being talked about from about 5-years ago and it doesn't seem to be available any more.

 

[blume357]

Here's a crazy method... if you have the modified hold bolt open feature on the trigger group... use your middle finger to pull the trigger and keep your trigger finger on the front of the trigger guard against the bolt lock lever... when firing the 10th or last round pull on that lever and the bolt will lock open... yeah I know it really does not solve the problem...

 

[Shooter III]

Here's a crazy method... if you have the modified hold bolt open feature on the trigger group... use your middle finger to pull the trigger and keep your trigger finger on the front of the trigger guard against the bolt lock lever... when firing the 10th or last round pull on that lever and the bolt will lock open... yeah I know it really does not solve the problem...

LMAO !

 

[Precision32]

My 30 carbine does not have a last shot hold open. It's about as tactical as you can get.

 

[Snake45]

My 30 carbine does not have a last shot hold open. It's about as tactical as you can get.

It does if you use the 30 round mags--or the followers from those mags in your 15-rounders. :wink:

 

[Precision32]

True, the 30 round mag gives you a hold open, but the rifle is still the same. Besides, the 30 rounders were made for the M2 Carbine.

You can get a last round hold open but it cost almost as much as the rifle itself.

 

[Shooter III]

I learned to count to ten when I was about four, so I don't see this as a huge problem. :mrgreen:

Not sure what mags you're using .... I have the 25 round banana mags and I quit counting after 13 ... LOL !

 

[eveled]

I always thought Ruger missed an oportunity to make a carbine and a pistol that used the same magazines. Either a carbine based on the MK series, or a pistol that used the rotary magazine. Or both for that matter.

The design is already done, so why not make the most of it? Ed

 

[Shooter III]

I always thought Ruger missed an oportunity to make a carbine and a pistol that used the same magazines. Either a carbine based on the MK series, or a pistol that used the rotary magazine. Or both for that matter.

The design is already done, so why not make the most of it? Ed

I agree .....

 

[t-reg]

Could use a microswitch / bump on rotator in mag to trigger a solenoid / pin in the reciever.

 

[Shooter III]

Could use a microswitch / bump on rotator in mag to trigger a solenoid / pin in the reciever.

?????????

 

[t-reg]

Better yet a magnet on the rotator and a sensor in the receiver. When the rotator picks up the magnet in the 10th position it tells a solenoid to release a catch to hold the bolt in the rearward position until a button is pushed to release it. Yes, a battery would be required but it would overcome the mechanical difficulties of a bolt hold open method inherent to the design.

 

[Shooter III]

Better yet a magnet on the rotator and a sensor in the receiver. When the rotator picks up the magnet in the 10th position it tells a solenoid to release a catch to hold the bolt in the rearward position until a button is pushed to release it. Yes, a battery would be required but it would overcome the mechanical difficulties of a bolt hold open method inherent to the design.

Dude .. .. .. what part of Michigan are you holed up in, Deadman Swamp on the Clare / Isabella county line ?

((( Yeah, its a real place, Google it. )))

 

[t-reg]

Better yet a magnet on the rotator and a sensor in the receiver. When the rotator picks up the magnet in the 10th position it tells a solenoid to release a catch to hold the bolt in the rearward position until a button is pushed to release it. Yes, a battery would be required but it would overcome the mechanical difficulties of a bolt hold open method inherent to the design.

Dude .. .. .. what part of Michigan are you holed up in, Deadman Swamp on the Clare / Isabella county line ?

((( Yeah, its a real place, Google it. )))

Been there, rabbit hunting.

It all depends on how bad you want your bolt to stay open. Or how good you are at counting to ten.

 

[Shooter III]

Better yet a magnet on the rotator and a sensor in the receiver. When the rotator picks up the magnet in the 10th position it tells a solenoid to release a catch to hold the bolt in the rearward position until a button is pushed to release it. Yes, a battery would be required but it would overcome the mechanical difficulties of a bolt hold open method inherent to the design.

Dude .. .. .. what part of Michigan are you holed up in, Deadman Swamp on the Clare / Isabella county line ?

((( Yeah, its a real place, Google it. )))

Been there, rabbit hunting.

It all depends on how bad you want your bolt to stay open. Or how good you are at counting to ten.

I don't beleive you; all the rabbits were eaten by the chupacabra's in the mid-70's .... that's why its called "Deadman Swamp"

 

[mohavesam]

I always thought Ruger missed an oportunity to make a carbine and a pistol that used the same magazines. Either a carbine based on the MK series, or a pistol that used the rotary magazine. Or both for that matter.
The design is already done, so why not make the most of it? Ed

Ummm... the Charger pistol? I will agree that Ruger absolutely gave the carbine market to Browning and their excellent Buckmark rifle. Ruger pooched that one completely. And the 22/45 would have been sooo easily converted into a wire-reinforced buttstock at that... oh well. Buckmark rifle owners know and enjoy.

Now on the OP idea - I'm sure Ruger has fully explored the engineering and economics of such a "hold-open" magazine follower in a half-century of 10/22s... But thanks for the brainstorm anyway!