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I am not sure if I have a KSN9 or a KNR9. The serial # dates as a 1975 production and it came with a matching 3 digit serial 22WMR fluted cylinder. Maybe it went back to factory for the cylinder? There is a star in front of the grip screw. No box.
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Awesome........
But, please enlightening us to "star" and fluted .22WMR........
 
ONE NICE RSS :!: like those 9&1/2 guns--- thats one new model I'd like to own 8) What info. on the barrel roll mark a lot of those guns had both cylinders FLUTED but I stand corrected--- bought a 4 & 5/8ths about the same ship date it had both cy's fluted --no warning on the barrel.
 
xtratoy said:
I am not sure if I have a KSN9 or a KNR9. The serial # dates as a 1975 production and it came with a matching 3 digit serial 22WMR fluted cylinder. Maybe it went back to factory for the cylinder? There is a star in front of the grip screw. No box.
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If it has a star at the end of the trigger guard then it should be a single cylinder .22 LR only. It looks as if someone found a 22 Mag cylinder to fit your gun. Look at the end of your 22 mag cylinder and see if the last 3 numbers of the serial number of your gun is scratched on it. If it is, then your gun was returned to the factory and a Mag. cylinder was fitted to your gun. If the last 3 number don't match your gun then the Mag. cylinder was added by someone, not the factory.

I would call the factory and get the model number for your gun.
KNR9 would be a convertible.
KS9 would be a single cylinder model. 22LR only.
Hope this helps
 
americal said:
ONE NICE RSS :!: like those 9&1/2 guns--- thats one new model I'd like to own 8) What info. on the barrel roll mark a lot of those guns had both cylinders FLUTED but I stand corrected--- bought a 4 & 5/8ths about the same ship date it had both cy's fluted --no warning on the barrel.

The blue gun started shipping with non-fluted Mag. cylinders in 1975. The Stainless Steel models didn't start until some time in 1976. So in 1976, "Made in the 200th year."Stainless Steel guns will come both ways. fluted and non-fluted Mag. cylinders.
 
no warning on barrel . serial # range on Ruger sites says 1975 production year. 3 digits on cylinder match last 3 #'s of serial # of gun. I will look for a number to call and see if they have more info.
 
xtratoy said:
no warning on barrel . serial # range on Ruger sites says 1975 production year. 3 digits on cylinder match last 3 #'s of serial # of gun. I will look for a number to call and see if they have more info.

Yep...that's the thing to do. I do know of at least one star marked Convertible, so just proves that time and time again the fine folks at Ruger make errors too.
Be sure to let us know how it turns out.
Chet15
 
street said:
americal said:
ONE NICE RSS :!: like those 9&1/2 guns--- thats one new model I'd like to own 8) What info. on the barrel roll mark a lot of those guns had both cylinders FLUTED but I stand corrected--- bought a 4 & 5/8ths about the same ship date it had both cy's fluted --no warning on the barrel.

The blue gun started shipping with non-fluted Mag. cylinders in 1975. The Stainless Steel models didn't start until some time in 1976. So in 1976, "Made in the 200th year."Stainless Steel guns will come both ways. fluted and non-fluted Mag. cylinders.

Interesting! My Stainless 62-73191 with a non fluted mag cylinder and matching #73191 shipped in 1974. My two stainless Liberty Models from 1976 of course; one has a fluted and one has non fluted and are also both serial numbered to the guns.
 
Hondo44 said:
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Interesting! My Stainless 62-73191 with a non fluted mag cylinder and matching #73191 shipped in 1974. My two stainless Liberty Models from 1976 of course; one has a fluted and one has non fluted and are also both serial numbered to the guns.

That 62-73191 gun is unusual as it should have a fluted Mag. cylinder. Did you call Ruger and get a shipping date on that gun or did you look on their Web Site? If you are going by their web site, it is possible that that gun shipped later then what the serial number says it should. Maybe the original cylinder was lost and the gun was sent back to the factory for a replacement cylinder after 1976 when they started making the non fluted cylinders. I guess we will never know. It's just another strange thing that Ruger Collectors run into. With Ruger. "Never say never!"
 
I sold the gun I had to a friend ,he still has it :) it may be a little earlier gun forgot serial # but got the gun from Allen A. Daniels Jr. and a 9.5 gun to both had fluted cy.'s no warning sold both :( nice looking guns but just can't stay away from om Rugers. :arrow: micro- sighted :wink: neither gun was a STAR model.
 
street said:
That 62-73191 gun is unusual as it should have a fluted Mag. cylinder. Did you call Ruger and get a shipping date on that gun or did you look on their Web Site? If you are going by their web site, it is possible that that gun shipped later then what the serial number says it should. Maybe the original cylinder was lost and the gun was sent back to the factory for a replacement cylinder after 1976 when they started making the non fluted cylinders. I guess we will never know. It's just another strange thing that Ruger Collectors run into. With Ruger. "Never say never!"

Yeah, "The main rule is, there are no rules". I'll call Monday. I bought the gun new with the non-fluted cylinder but can't pinpoint the year. I also thought it unusual to have the last 5 numbers from the serial # etched on it. All my others only have the last three #s.
Thanks,
 
Hondo44 said:
street said:
That 62-73191 gun is unusual as it should have a fluted Mag. cylinder. Did you call Ruger and get a shipping date on that gun or did you look on their Web Site? If you are going by their web site, it is possible that that gun shipped later then what the serial number says it should. Maybe the original cylinder was lost and the gun was sent back to the factory for a replacement cylinder after 1976 when they started making the non fluted cylinders. I guess we will never know. It's just another strange thing that Ruger Collectors run into. With Ruger. "Never say never!"

Yeah, "The main rule is, there are no rules". I'll call Monday. I bought the gun new with the non-fluted cylinder but can't pinpoint the year. I also thought it unusual to have the last 5 numbers from the serial # etched on it. All my others only have the last three #s.
Thanks,

Yes, that is unusual to have all 5 numbers on the cylinder. Please let us know the shipping date on that gun when you call Ruger. I know Chad will like to know what you find out..
 
Called and faxed Ruger Thursday Morning and I am waiting for information on my gun. It is currently visiting with its half brother.
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Hondo44 said:
Yeah, "The main rule is, there are no rules". I'll call Monday. I bought the gun new with the non-fluted cylinder but can't pinpoint the year. I also thought it unusual to have the last 5 numbers from the serial # etched on it. All my others only have the last three #s.
Thanks,

Yes, that is unusual to have all 5 numbers on the cylinder. Please let us know the shipping date on that gun when you call Ruger. I know Chad will like to know what you find out..[/quote]

Carla from Ruger called me back this morning; my SS .22 Super NM # 62-73191 shipped March 1974 with two cylinders. Of course she doesn't have info about the mag cylinder as being fluted or not. But being the original owner I know it came non-fluted and wasn't replaced. Sounds like it was a longer transition period from fluted to non-fluted and started earlier then when the blue guns started shipping with non-fluted cylinders. SS guns were probably outselling blue guns two to one and SS fluted cylinder inventory might have been used up sooner.
 
Hondo44, Your gun is very unusual. Half way through 1976 they were still shipping Stainless Steel Single-Sixes with fluted Mag. cylinders. How your gun, which was manufactured 2 years before the change from fluted to nonfluted cylinders, ended up with a nonfluted cylinder is quite a mystery.

The blue guns started out in 1975 with nonfluted cylinders, and I'm sure that they were playing around with both blue and stainless cylinder at the same time. Maybe someone tried to sell the idea of nonfluted cylinder a year earlier and was turned down and you know Ruger. He's not going to waste anything. They could have put that cylinder on your gun and shipped it. 1 year later for the blue and 2 years later for the Stainless they decided it was less work to flute the cylinders and started shipping them that way. Who knows, probably we will never know the true story. With Ruger never say never!!! :lol:
 
You're right, I am just not surprised with anything Ruger anymore.

I have two Liberty Model SS Supers: a 5 1/2" 64-34342 with Non fluted Mag Cyl and my other is a 4 5/8" 64-35744 with fluted cylinder, 1402 numbers later!
 
I called Ruger again today and finally got to talk to someone. She said gun originally shipped with one cylinder. She never actually gave me the Model #. I asked about the Mag cylinder and she said all she knew was how it was originally shipped. So...... the cylinder could have came from anywhere?????? If they don't know who would. :? The 3 digits stamped into front of cylinder sure wasn't done by someone with a hammer in his garage, to professional looking of a job?? I know because I have a set of stamps to and my results have never been that even. :shock:
 
xtratoy said:
I called Ruger again today and finally got to talk to someone. She said gun originally shipped with one cylinder. She never actually gave me the Model #. I asked about the Mag cylinder and she said all she knew was how it was originally shipped. So...... the cylinder could have came from anywhere?????? If they don't know who would. :? The 3 digits stamped into front of cylinder sure wasn't done by someone with a hammer in his garage, to professional looking of a job?? I know because I have a set of stamps to and my results have never been that even. :shock:

Here's your answer: The cylinder could not have come from anywhere. If it came from another gun it would have etched serial numbers on it that do not match your gun.

As was said earlier the star indicates your gun was shipped new with only a 22LR cylinder (because of a shortage of Ruger's SS barstock at the time.)

A cylinder can not be purchased from Ruger unless the gun is sent to them.

The Mag cylinder was obtained when the gun was sent back to Ruger to purchase a mag cylinder and have it fitted. The stamped digits prove that. Only cylinders that have been fitted by Ruger when a gun is sent back to have a new cylinder fitted have the professional number stamping as you describe, although sometimes they are hand etched with an etching tool like the cylinders that come with new guns shipped with two cylinders.

The person you talked to is just a clerk reading from a list of shipping dates. She isn't aware of these things that have been determined by collectors.
 
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