Cast bullet....New tempering idea?

[Bucks Owin]

I've been messin' around with a different casting technique that I wonder if has any merit. I've been casting a lot of HP .45LC Bullets using WW alloy. Did a batch air cooled, did a batch water dropped, figuring to try different velocities and expansion tests in wet newsprint. The I got a "fart in the brain" and tried a possibly new method. Simply put, I made another run of bullets that I dropped out of the mold base first to stand upright on a wet towel. They sit there and sizzle for a bit but I can pick them up bare handed after only a couple minutes. I don't have a BHN tester yet, but using the "scratch test" (slightly better than nothing, I know) the bullets seem softer in the nose than the base does. Anyone ever tried this?

I wonder if these bullets are hard enough to drive fast yet stay soft enough in the nose to expand well? Maybe the bullet base and I are both all wet... :?

At any rate, if this is something new and revolutionary, and will forever change the way cast HP hunting bullets are made from now on, remember where you saw it first! :lol: :wink:

 

[contender]

If you really want to study some "changes" in bullet hardness & game penetration,, you need to check out dual allow bullets. A hardcast base,, with a softer lead nose. You need two pots going at one time,, two alloys,, and pour a little softer lead in the mold first,, then fill with harder alloy. To get the right amount for just the nose,, a custom made dipper works quite well.
While I've not actually done this,, I HAVE seen the bullets,, the set-up,, and watched the actual performance of such bullets. Maybe sixshot can chime in here with his actual experiences,,,!

 

[Bucks Owin]

If you really want to study some "changes" in bullet hardness & game penetration,, you need to check out dual allow bullets. A hardcast base,, with a softer lead nose. You need two pots going at one time,, two alloys,, and pour a little softer lead in the mold first,, then fill with harder alloy. To get the right amount for just the nose,, a custom made dipper works quite well.
While I've not actually done this,, I HAVE seen the bullets,, the set-up,, and watched the actual performance of such bullets. Maybe sixshot can chime in here with his actual experiences,,,!

10-4 contender, that's what gave me the idea to try it... :wink:
(BTW, how do the dual alloy bullets perform?)

 

[pps]

I have tried this and it does work.

 

[Bucks Owin]

I have tried this and it does work.

Cool beans! (Let's head for the patent office together... :wink: :lol: )

 

[bigboredad]

hey bucks you could air cool them then stand them up in a pan nose first with enough water to just cover the nose. Put them in the oven for a hour or so at around 400-425. After a hour drop into cold water for 15 minutes then pull them out cover in ketchup and serve with your beer of choice :lol:

 

[Bucks Owin]

hey bucks you could air cool them then stand them up in a pan nose first with enough water to just cover the nose. Put them in the oven for a hour or so at around 400-425. After a hour drop into cold water for 15 minutes then pull them out cover in ketchup and serve with your beer of choice :lol:

Should I marinate first? :wink: 8)

 

[LAH]

Send me a couple & I'll test each end for hardness though the HP end might be tough.
lah at suddenlink dot net

 

[Bucks Owin]

Send me a couple & I'll test each end for hardness though the HP end might be tough.
lah at suddenlink dot net

PM sent.. :wink:

 

[clintsfolly]

Or water drop and place in a pan of water that comes to the top drive band then use a propane torch to heat the HP then let air cool. just 8-10 sec. per boolit. Clint

 

[SBH4628]

Sounds like a good idea Dennis...I do have a old Lyman mould that will do 30 cal. Two part as TY said...Pour the base first. And a soft nose mould. Soft lead.
Intersting little mould....Took a few years for me to put 2+2 together.
I think ya have to start with a HP bullet.
Will send you a pic Amigo

 

[GP100man]

Things that make ya say HHHHMMMM!!!????

Ya got Little man shootin yet ????

 

[Bucks Owin]

Things that make ya say HHHHMMMM!!!????

Ya got Little man shootin yet ????

Not yet pard, still doing "Noah's flood" out here on the left coast... :x

Here he is at age 8 though, with his trusty customized M60 Winnie and his own personal benchrest... :wink:

(Dad beaming with pride here.. )

 

[pps]

Things that make ya say HHHHMMMM!!!????

Ya got Little man shootin yet ????

Not yet pard, still doing "Noah's flood" out here on the left coast... :x

Here he is at age 8 though, with his trusty customized M60 Winnie and his own personal benchrest... :wink:

(Dad beaming with pride here.. )

My 8yo just started the Hornet. My 10 yp girl has been shooting off the bench with the 22 hornet real well too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Z4aUshiRs

 

[tek4260]

http://www.dnmsport.com/EXTRAS/ANSCHUTZ%20WOODCHUCKER%20BOLT%20ACTION%20RIFLE%2022LR.htm

Can't wait to start my daughter on the lil Anschutz. Have had it since I was a kid. FWIW, these little rifles will shoot with any heavy barrel target 22 made.