California hurricane

[jimbo1096]

I guess the way they’re reporting it on the weather channel earthquakes and hurricanes are about to wipe Los Angeles off the map. Friend of mine in San Diego said it’s barely sprinkling and there hasn’t been any issues. I don’t know, maybe CarryC is having some issues up in the mountains.

 

[hittman]

Downgraded to a tropical storm last I heard …..

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californ...thquake-tropical-storm-hilary-descends-region

 

[txramfan]

I spoke with my 100 year old pop a half hour or so after the earthquake , they live in San Clemente , neither he or mom had noticed the earthquake and his comment on the rain was it was steady and the tortoises where hiding out in the summer house.

 

[Chief 101]

A whole lotta nuthin!

 

[RSIno1]

This "hurricane" has been typical of democrat run California. It's under performed and fizzled out long before they could yell "climate change". This was far less than the last 100 year hurricane that hit SoCal in the 1930s.

 

[cowboycopus]

Pay no attention to Joe and Hunter. Look over there, another system in the Gulf.

 

[Jeepnik]

So, here I sit, the "storm is only 11 miles from L. A. Pretty much all we have had to day is light to moderate rain (and very little of the moderate stuff) and light winds (actually not much more than breezes).

Once again the gloom and doom pundits blew it.

Or as has been said, weathermen are the only folks who can be wrong repeatedly and keep their jobs.

As to the earthquake, I jokingly tolf my wife it wouldn't e long before the news was blaming the rain (what little there was) for the quake. So I turn on the TV for the news and they are interviewing Dr. Lucy Jones (the go to expert on quakes) and what's the first thing some talking head asks? Yep, could the rain cause the quake?

 

[Johnny-Baseball]

Last week, my son's medivac Blackhawk company sent him (and 3 birds) to the National Training Center exercises near Dan Diego. One of the maneuvers required the Blackhawks to be parked in a dry lake. The high command made URGENT contingency plans in the event the hurricane caused that dry lake to be -once again - a wet lake. Of course, it never happened.

 

[Johnny-Baseball]

As to the earthquake, I jokingly tolf my wife it wouldn't e long before the news was blaming the rain (what little there was) for the quake. So I turn on the TV for the news and they are interviewing Dr. Lucy Jones (the go to expert on quakes) and what's the first thing some talking head asks? Yep, could the rain cause the quake?

I was a seismic analyst/technician in the USAF (1969-73). Our training detachment was at Rocky Mountain Arsenal, just north of Denver's old Stapleton Airport. DoD caused WW I/II nerve and mustard gas to be stored at RMA. Shell Chemical Company built a plant at RMA to process those gasses into inert liquids, and then pump those liquids into 10,000 foot holes in the ground (at RMA).

Our RMA seismometers routinely detected minor earchquakes caused by those inert liquids, but since our mission was classified, we couldn't tell anyone. In the meantime, the Denver news media trumpeted that the SEISMIC ACTIVITY IN DENVER PORTENTS THE NEXT "BIG ONE."

In reality, the pumped liquids were lubricating the (very minor) geological faults under Denver, causing the release of stress that actually reduced the risk of a more vigorous quake. Go figure.

 

[blume357]

"Things are so bad they've never been this bad before"

That is not only the core theme of the weather channels but politics too.....

I remember years ago a hurricane was coming in from the Gulf and hit Florida and the weather channel was showing aerial views of refrigerated 18 wheelers headed down through Georgia on I-75 into Florida and the reporter was saying those were going to be used to store all the dead in.... one person died in that storm.....

 

[vito]

The real harm of the endless hyping of what turns out to be pretty normal storms is that when warnings are issued for the really bad ones, many folks will ignore the warning. Visiting Biloxi, MS some years ago, I saw a plague placed on a high structure marking where the storm surge had reached during hurricane Katrina. It was hard to imagine that the plaque was real. Standing on the beach and seeing that plaque 23 feet above the level of the ocean. I was told that some of those lost were folks who had survived hurricane Hugo and others and thought Katrina would be something that they could handle.

 

[Conman]

The weather predictors will LIE to us for their own agenda.

 

[Jeepnik]

I was a seismic analyst/technician in the USAF (1969-73). Our training detachment was at Rocky Mountain Arsenal, just north of Denver's old Stapleton Airport. DoD caused WW I/II nerve and mustard gas to be stored at RMA. Shell Chemical Company built a plant at RMA to process those gasses into inert liquids, and then pump those liquids into 10,000 foot holes in the ground (at RMA).

Our RMA seismometers routinely detected minor earchquakes caused by those inert liquids, but since our mission was classified, we couldn't tell anyone. In the meantime, the Denver news media trumpeted that the SEISMIC ACTIVITY IN DENVER PORTENTS THE NEXT "BIG ONE."

In reality, the pumped liquids were lubricating the (very minor) geological faults under Denver, causing the release of stress that actually reduced the risk of a more vigorous quake. Go figure.

If you find the answer interview with Dr. Jones she states that increasing the pressure on the faults by pumping large amounts of liquid underground or building a dam and applying pressure that way could cause quakes. But rain, unless a fellow named Noah is involved won’t create any issues.

 

[caryc]

Here in the hills in Southern California, it turned out to be a big nothing. It rained off and on. For about ten minutes or so, it rained so hard that my DirectTV signal went out for like 15 minutes. The water was running pretty hard on areas of my property. I haven't driven out yet but I expect that I will have to use my tractor for dirt road repair. After the rains stopped last night then came the wind. Not too bad, maybe 25 MPH with high gusts over that.

Don't know anything about any earthquake. As far as the hurricane, it was a big bust. But with all the rain, I expect the weeds on my 5 acres will come back with a vengeance, just when I figured I had them licked until next summer.

 

[Johnny-Baseball]

If you find the answer interview with Dr. Jones she states that increasing the pressure on the faults by pumping large amounts of liquid underground or building a dam and applying pressure that way could cause quakes. But rain, unless a fellow named Noah is involved won’t create any issues.

I won't quibble. Putting water on top of a fault line (i.e. a lake) would exert downward pressure on that fault. But pumping liquid INTO that fault would only lubricate the adjacent surfaces, causing minor, continuous slippage that would be detected as tiny earthquakes.

FYI, my USAF group was the source of all earthquake reporting - i.e. "earthquake measuring 6.5 on the Richter scale" - back in those days. Our detachments' seismic instruments could detect earthquakes occurring basically anywhere in the world. The reporting from two or more detachments was sufficient for an exact determination of the quake's epicenter - the precise spot on the earth's surface (to the size of a football field), and the exact depth beneath the earth's crust (within 100 meters). That level of precision allowed the US to monitor the bad guys' nuclear tests.

 

[RC44Mag]

The weather predictors will LIE to us for their own agenda.

As well as the scientists doing research on future weather predictions. In part for the tax payer paid huge grants to fund their work and fund their very healthy govt paychecks and erroneously fit their woke agendas, not based on actual science but political leanings.
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[bobsyouruncle]

How many fires and weather events are occurring in China and Russia? We are all doomed

 

[CHEVYINLINE6]

I am waiting for the all mighty Gavin Newsom to come forward and say he calmed the storm and saved California. VOTE FOR ME AS I SAVED THEE.

CHEVYINLINE6.

 

[BULL'S-EYE]

https://babylonbee.com/news/weak-hurricane-hilary-performance-blamed-on-russian-interference

 

[Tensaw]

The real harm of the endless hyping of what turns out to be pretty normal storms is that when warnings are issued for the really bad ones, many folks will ignore the warning. Visiting Biloxi, MS some years ago, I saw a plague placed on a high structure marking where the storm surge had reached during hurricane Katrina. It was hard to imagine that the plaque was real. Standing on the beach and seeing that plaque 23 feet above the level of the ocean. I was told that some of those lost were folks who had survived hurricane Hugo and others and thought Katrina would be something that they could handle.

We visit Mary Mahoney's restaurant in Biloxi several times a year. Here is Katrina's waterline.

 

[wolfsong]

Weather is not a predictable thing. There were many areas that endured heavy rains, flash flooding, high winds and even a tornado or two. One touched down in Cntral California in the city of Fresno on Saturday causing quite a bit of damage.

I wonder how many here have actually experienced first hand a hurricane. If you have, you wouldn't be so cavalier about it. Thank the Lord that this hurricane lost its momentum eooner rather than later.

By the way, Merced County, which is about 40 miles north of Fresno, was on tornado watch today (Monday) until just about 2 hours ago...

 

[Ride1949]

https://www.breitbart.com/weather/2...asses-through-trapped-cars-roads-washed-away/

 

[Johnny-Baseball]

I wonder how many here have actually experienced first hand a hurricane. If you have, you wouldn't be so cavalier about it. Thank the Lord that this hurricane lost its momentum eooner rather than later.

During my year on Mindanao, PI (1970-71) we endured 5 typhoons (a cyclone occurring in the Atlantic Ocean is called a hurricane; one in the Pacific Ocean is called a typhoon). We received over 270 inches of rain and many, many tornados. The locals said it was a "normal" year. Moreover, since Mindanao is just a huge pile of volcanic rock and sand, the rainwater soaked into the ground so rapidly that 30 minutes after the rain stopped the dirt was dry enough for a softball game.

Kali's Class 1 hurricane isn't THE BIG ONE...not by a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG shot. But no doubt they'll brag that it was the WORST IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. 'Cause its a Kali thing.

 

[caryc]

During my year on Mindanao, PI (1970-71) we endured 5 typhoons (a cyclone occurring in the Atlantic Ocean is called a hurricane; one in the Pacific Ocean is called a typhoon). We received over 270 inches of rain and many, many tornados. The locals said it was a "normal" year. Moreover, since Mindanao is just a huge pile of volcanic rock and sand, the rainwater soaked into the ground so rapidly that 30 minutes after the rain stopped the dirt was dry enough for a softball game.

Kali's Class 1 hurricane isn't THE BIG ONE...not by a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG shot. But no doubt they'll brag that it was the WORST IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. 'Cause its a Kali thing.

I had three trees on my property lose some pretty big limbs. I wouldn't have expected that since as I said we had wind gusts of maybe 25 MPH. So, I was still trying to figure out why those limbs came down.

Now I'm figuring that at the worst of the really hard driving rain when even my DirectTV lost reception, maybe the weight of all that water hitting those fully leafed out limbs was just to much for the trees to bear and the limbs just broke under it.

 

[Bad Barlow]

The weather predictors will LIE to us for their own agenda.

And what would that "agenda" be?
I think that NOAA does a fantastic job of predicting weather events ,a service that will become ever more important as we progress further into climate change.

 

[Cholo]

Just a reminder that this thread is in the Lounge. Discussing climate change is for the Politics forum.

 

[Chief 101]

A whole lotta nuthin!

maybe we can call it a Hilary burger...

 

[caryc]

A whole lotta nuthin!

Yeah, a whole lotta nuthin which left me with a lot of dirt road work to do and broken down tree limbs to cut up and get rid of.

And, let me clear up something. It was re-designated a tropical storm before it actually hit Southern California. So, all the wise cracks about the hurricane are kind of useless.

 

[Chief 101]

chill out dude

 

[Fox Mike]

What is particularly interesting is that California has had ONE hurricane in the last 84 years (or so it was reported). It was made to be a BIG deal and all the news was reporting it. Since 1950 Maryland alone has had 142 hurricanes affecting the the State. Just another year of normal weather patterns. A relatively normal yearly occurance for Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Florida then up the East coast through the mid-Atlantic region.