Bug-out gun??

[WanderLust]

GunnyGene, that line about being the "rabbit, not the wolf" did make me rethink my stance a bit. Although my goal is to avoid conflict, I tend to have the mindset that having a firearm gives me an edge. It's good to be reminded that MANY will have firearms when crazy times hit, and I would do well to act as a prey, not an equal predator.
As for having a bag in the truck all the time, I can't be sure that I would be anywhere near my home at a moment's notice. We had family members lose their homes due to both a fire and a tornado. A bag stocked with enough clothes and gear to get through 2-3 days would have been a blessing at that point. It buys you some time that you won't have to spend shopping for basics if the stores are closed and the power is off. It's not all about having everything you need, but enough 'insurance' to make you feel better.

 

[instructor]

As for firearms, I some years ago purchased the Glock Model 19X and recently purchased the Ruger PCC 9 as well. Takes Glock mags and also it is a take down to make it pack quite easy and yet very quick to install barrel plus it is very accurate. If needed for longer range purposes have an LRB M14SA/NM rifle with some 20 magazines and lots of quality ammunition which I carry in my vehicle.
Water supply very important for as most of us know 3 days without water is approaching death or at best very weak and barely mobile. Food is of canned variety and includes energy bars. Plan would be to go to a selected location and remain there until any society issues have relaxed somewhat. Sooner or later, you will have to "resupply" and make a plan how and where to do just that if in a remote location. Friend of mine has a very comfortable cabin in the mountains which I have access to, and it is well stocked with food and other supplies. Important you find or have a place to go and attempt to survive the "social issues."

 

[Mauser9]

Still thinking my S&W CS-9 and that Ruger American compact in 22 mag. may be a good option.

 

[hittman]

As for firearms, I some years ago purchased the Glock Model 19X and recently purchased the Ruger PCC 9 as well.

Excellent choice. Me too!

 

[Colonialgirl]

A word of warning:

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR FIREARMS IN YOUR VEHICLE OVER NIGHT !!
There are more and more vehicle break-ins in various neighborhoods where firearms and other valuables are stolen.

 

[Jeepnik]

First if I bug out I will be taking pretty much all of my guns and ammo. I intend to bug out to my nephew in the high desert. A retired San Bernadino County Sheriff he alrady is well stocked, but more is always better.So what would be my primary long arm?

Handgun

Man I just realized how old that photo is of my Randall. I haven't seen a laser like that in probably ten years.

 

[ole442]

Whatever you plan on.....other's plans will soon change your plans. You'll need to change "their" plans to survive.
The other problem is food.....if you have food and cook it or advertise it, there will be a problem. I know of one neighbor who is prepared and thinks as I do. The rest are just living the "current dream"! Once you give a free meal, the word will spread. Not sure how I'll handle that without being deemed and azzhole! There are two of us and two English Mastiffs I love a lot more than most people. I have the dogs food backed up but could use more. They will be my alarm system but to others, they will be a meal for a few days......that will be a big problem. I remember the Civil War Union seige of Vicksburg (I believe) where after a month, it was very still because all the town's dogs no longer barked!
After a month, there will be few dogs, cats, deer, rabbits, squirrels or most any other wildlife because nature cannot provide enough for the entire population. But then, by that time, the population numbers will be declining........the real task will be to not be one of the declining number!
My daughter and her family (total of 4) may show up and are welcome but their two dogs will create an issue because I doubt they'd bring much food. Cross that bridge when I come to it.
Many scenarios and most are not good IMO!

 

[Hvymax]

Sub 2000 is hard to beat on most every front. Small and light in an available caliber. I'm also a fan of a substantial pistol. A full size maybe 6" barrel hi capacity and good sights that can hit out to 100yds if needed.

 

[Hvymax]

A Glock Long-slide in 9mm per your limited specs if you are doing one gun. My opinion ain’t worth any more than anyone else's, and I’m sure my over 20 years Military experience around the world isn’t unique.

If I had two firearms, I’d find a used 12 gauge single shot that can take down with the barrel cut to legal length. This can pot any game and create havoc as a defensive weapon. I have one patterned after the M-79 I toted.

If you are toting MRE’s chunk them ! Small cans of beenie-weenie, Peanut M&M’s, and caffeine pills is where its at when you are on the run.

Also, I‘ve had more failure for various reasons with revolvers than semi-autos in my lifetime.

A Rossi Matched Pair 20ga/22 fits in a case the size of a pool cue. A box of slugs, a few boxes of shot and a brick of 22 you can forage for years.

 

[Hvymax]

Whatever you plan on.....other's plans will soon change your plans. You'll need to change "their" plans to survive.
The other problem is food.....if you have food and cook it or advertise it, there will be a problem. I know of one neighbor who is prepared and thinks as I do. The rest are just living the "current dream"! Once you give a free meal, the word will spread. Not sure how I'll handle that without being deemed and azzhole! There are two of us and two English Mastiffs I love a lot more than most people. I have the dogs food backed up but could use more. They will be my alarm system but to others, they will be a meal for a few days......that will be a big problem. I remember the Civil War Union seige of Vicksburg (I believe) where after a month, it was very still because all the town's dogs no longer barked!
After a month, there will be few dogs, cats, deer, rabbits, squirrels or most any other wildlife because nature cannot provide enough for the entire population. But then, by that time, the population numbers will be declining........the real task will be to not be one of the declining number!
My daughter and her family (total of 4) may show up and are welcome but their two dogs will create an issue because I doubt they'd bring much food. Cross that bridge when I come to it.
Many scenarios and most are not good IMO!

We'll be weeks from eating pets and neighbors to survive. All the preps in the world won't help if someone isn't manning the beltfed 24-7.

 

[oldwolf]

If you can survive the first 6 months or so, for the sake of argument, after most people have killed each other off or died of disease and starvation, you will be golden. Then you only will have to worry about food, fresh water, health issues, parasites, injuries requiring first aid, medications, fuel, heat, transportation, clothing, books, and the multitude of things I obviously haven't though of. At that point, there will be a plethora of weapons lying around to choose from.

 

[Jeepnik]

Whatever you plan on.....other's plans will soon change your plans. You'll need to change "their" plans to survive.
The other problem is food.....if you have food and cook it or advertise it, there will be a problem. I know of one neighbor who is prepared and thinks as I do. The rest are just living the "current dream"! Once you give a free meal, the word will spread. Not sure how I'll handle that without being deemed and azzhole! There are two of us and two English Mastiffs I love a lot more than most people. I have the dogs food backed up but could use more. They will be my alarm system but to others, they will be a meal for a few days......that will be a big problem. I remember the Civil War Union seige of Vicksburg (I believe) where after a month, it was very still because all the town's dogs no longer barked!
After a month, there will be few dogs, cats, deer, rabbits, squirrels or most any other wildlife because nature cannot provide enough for the entire population. But then, by that time, the population numbers will be declining........the real task will be to not be one of the declining number!
My daughter and her family (total of 4) may show up and are welcome but their two dogs will create an issue because I doubt they'd bring much food. Cross that bridge when I come to it.
Many scenarios and most are not good IMO!

Be plenty of long pig about.

 

[BearBiologist]

Ruger AR556, with a Glock 27 and G22 (357 Sig, with original 40 S & W and 9mm Barrels). Wife is a PC( 9mm with Glock magazine well and a G-17 9mm Glock. Model 12, 20", 12 gauge (older one w/o disconnect) in the closet). Too old to move around much, so stay put with some armed neighbors. Rural "city" in eastern WA State.

 

[BearBiologist]

If you can survive the first 6 months or so, for the sake of argument, after most people have killed each other off or died of disease and starvation, you will be golden. Then you only will have to worry about food, fresh water, health issues, parasites, injuries requiring first aid, medications, fuel, heat, transportation, clothing, books, and the multitude of things I obviously haven't though of. At that point, there will be a plethora of weapons lying around to choose from.

We have several major rivers and creeks, National Forests, agriculture in our immediate area. At least one major hospital and numerous pharmacies. Waterfowl flyway overhead.

 

[Wvfarrier]

The only rifle I will ever need is my Winchester 1892 Deluxe in 357 mag. If 13 rounds cannot handle it.....I need the Army

 

[BearBiologist]

The only rifle I will ever need is my Winchester 1892 Deluxe in 357 mag. If 13 rounds cannot handle it.....I need the Army

That's true. If need be, I also have OM Ruger Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks, other Glocks, an M-1 Carbine, and numerous 22s and shotguns. Best might be my 300 Win Mag, or 338 Win Mag, or my wife's 7x57 Remington Mountain rifle. Have ammo stockpiled (enough for a while, anyway=then there will be others available, if I'm still above the grass!).

 

[ole442]

Be plenty of long pig about.

Any English translation? I don't do pig Latin?

 

[Actnbill]

A suppressed 10/22.... no need in drawing attention during the apocalypse

 

[GunnyGene]

GunnyGene, that line about being the "rabbit, not the wolf" did make me rethink my stance a bit. Although my goal is to avoid conflict, I tend to have the mindset that having a firearm gives me an edge. It's good to be reminded that MANY will have firearms when crazy times hit, and I would do well to act as a prey, not an equal predator.

I learned that lesson personally a couple times, once when I was about 10yo. And in later survival training courtesy of the USMC. It was reinforced a couple more times by the experiences of other Marines in VN in 66, and afterwards. That said, if you are cornered, by all means fight for your life with whatever you have. But don't waste time, energy, or bullets if you don't have to. The objective is survival. Any thing, action, or thought, that doesn't directly contribute to that should be discarded.

 

[sfhogman]

Any English translation? I don't do pig Latin?

Human flesh...