Bayonets and Old rifles

[Trigger_Happy]

I think I have the right forum for this. So, I bought a cheapo bayonet pocket knife to put on the end of my Ruger 10/.22 Semi Auto rifle. I just need to know how to attach it. I'm new to bayonet's and guns in general, so bare with me. I would also like to know when this gun was made and how much you guys think its worth. Thanks, In advance. https://ibb.co/khBXjv https://ibb.co/cotjxF https://ibb.co/ido6Ba

 

[WIL TERRY]

I paid fifty bux for the last one i bought and it was NOT worth one damned red cent more I assure you !
I think it goes on with Duct tape and gorilla glue. BUT WHY ?
And so it goes...

 

[Trigger_Happy]

I paid fifty bux for the last one i bought and it was NOT worth one damned red cent more I assure you !
I think it goes on with Duct tape and gorilla glue. BUT WHY ?
And so it goes...

Really I just wanted the knife :lol: It being a bayonet was an added bonus, I just thought it would look good on my gun. But, do you know of any way that it would lock onto the barrel without gluing it? :lol:
I don't want it permanently there!

 

[hittman]

Welcome to the Forum.
I don't know the answer to your needs but be patient and I'm sure others will be along directly.

 

[Trigger_Happy]

Welcome to the Forum.
I don't know the answer to your needs but be patient and I'm sure others will be along directly.

Thank you! :D

 

[blume357]

the answer is no way with out spending a bunch of money and not sure it would work then. Military rifles had the end of their barrels specially designed to accommodate a specific bayonet... the 10/22 is not a military rifle and was never intended to accept a bayonet. If you ever have the chance to see how a military rifle and bayonet fit together you will see what I mean... maybe I'll post a picture later.

 

[Trigger_Happy]

the answer is no way with out spending a bunch of money and not sure it would work then. Military rifles had the end of their barrels specially designed to accommodate a specific bayonet... the 10/22 is not a military rifle and was never intended to accept a bayonet. If you ever have the chance to see how a military rifle and bayonet fit together you will see what I mean... maybe I'll post a picture later.

I see, so I guess I'll have to just use the knife separate from the gun. Thanks you for the advice!

 

[blume357]

Here's two pictures of how a bayonet goes on a M1 Carbine....



Oh, and speaking of these, my father told me once that he learned to always keep a round in the chamber of his M1 Garand when using a bayonet because sometimes the blade, would get jammed in a bone and then you could fire the round to loosen the blade.

 

[Trigger_Happy]

Here's two pictures of how a bayonet goes on a M1 Carbine....



Oh, and speaking of these, my father told me once that he learned to always keep a round in the chamber of his M1 Garand when using a bayonet because sometimes the blade, would get jammed in a bone and then you could fire the round to loosen the blade.

Oh, that's really smart! Honestly I don't think I'll be stabbing anyone anytime soon. :lol: but the way that bayonet is put on it looks like it would just fall off, is it locked in?

 

[22/45 Fan]

....but the way that bayonet is put on it looks like it would just fall off, is it locked in?

Yes, the handle of a bayonet has a latch that snaps over the end of the bayonet lug under the rifle barrel and fastens it in place.

BTW, there was a fad a few years ago for short bayonets that fastened over the Picatinny rail groves on many semi-auto handguns. Fortunately it was short lived as it was a true absurdity.

 

[blume357]

Just to talk about bayonets... keep in mind that during the American Revolution the preferred method of battle was for the two armies to march toward each other and when they got around 50 yards apart fire one volley and then charge with bayonets.... point being if you weren't hit with the first volley you could make it to the enemies line before they had time to reload....18" blade would do more damage that a lead ball..... did not work well at a place called King's Mountain .... seems those boys from western North Carolina had come down from the hills to deal with these uppity British and those boys carried long rifles that could reach out further. The irony is the leader of the British there had designed a new rifle for the Brits with a rifled barrel but the powers that be did not feel it was worth the extra cost.

 

[kmoore]

I think that cheapo bayonet has got to go. Get a WWII Japanese bayonet that's about 2 ft long. I would put that on a 10/22. In fact send me 400.00 bucks, the rifle and bayonet, I can get it done. Likely will not shoot so good but, you got a bayonet who needs .22lr rounds.

 

[eveled]

Just to expand on Blume's excellent bayonet tutorial, keep in mind that most bayonets only fit on one model rifle. They don't mix and match.

Not all bayonets can be used like a knife, some don't have any handles at all, some are just spikes. Some are permanently mounted to the rifle, but fold out of the way.

Also historically as rifles got better, bayonets got shorter.

 

[blume357]

The only reason I can see having a bayonet rifle combination these days is for display... If I was at the point where I needed to use a bayonet on my rifle I would hope I had a pistol on hand.

 

[eveled]

That is a good point Blume, the m1 carbine in WWII did not even have a bayonet. I'm surprised bayonets are still used at all these days.

 

[22/45 Fan]

That is a good point Blume, the m1 carbine in WWII did not even have a bayonet.

Yes it did. Early M1's did not have a bayonet lug but those made later in the war did.

 

[eveled]

Yeah late in the war, so late very few were fielded. For all practical purposes the bayonet lug was post war.

 

[steenroller]

I heard it was said during one training session that if there was a bullet in the chamber there wasn't going to be any bayonet fighting when it was said to fire a round to loosen the bayonet stuck in an enemy.

I bought one of the pistol bayonets when I found it for the right price just as a conversation piece. There were times in some of the IPSC matches I used to shoot in that we jokingly said we could use a bayonet for some of the close targets.

 

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