Awwww $@##^%& I FREAKIN GOOFED!

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okie dokie -

i have about 300 45 cal loaded up and crimped. i have them at the wrong o.a.l.!!

i have them at 1.260, they need to be at 1.200 to 1.210

can i just re-seat them without pulling the bullet?
 
If they fit the gun you have nothing to worry about. No problem pushing them a little farther in even after they've been crimped. Not the best idea, but I'd do that before I pulled them. YMMV.

Check for fit 1st. If ok then shoot them. If not seat them to your desired depth. Check the 1st one to make sure you didn't buldge it.
 
Did you crimp them into an existing crimp groove?

Will they chamber in your gun as they are?

They aren't off very far, and it's in the direction that does NOT increase pressure.

If they're well crimped I'd be kinda leery of attempting to move them.
 
Welcome to the real world of reloading!! :shock: We all make mistakes, and this is not a hard one to fix. Do you have a set of calipers (6")? Any way, turn the seater down and reseat 1 round until it is at desired length. Gently reseat rest and recrimp. Last week son used wrong powder and he had to pull the bullets. hth greg
 
yep - i'm using a digital caliper. i pushed a couple down, they look fine.

it wasn't a heavy crimp.

i'm using the lee carbide crimping die. the bullets are cast tc 225.

i'm hoping like hell i don't have to pull them. i don't have a bullet puller, the time invested, etc.

of course i don't want to blow my face off either!
 
If you think that you have to pull them you might try pulling the bullet just enough to straighten the crimp out then reseat and crimp again.
 
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45 acp, right? I have at times adjusted the col, mostly shorter later on. My 45 acp loads are not heavily crimped, especially with a lead bullet you should be fine to shorten them a tad. Proper col can be important for reliable feeding in an auto.

I have even lengthened col after loading a cartridge. It's a little more tricky, you just have to start pulling with the inertial hammer to move the bullet above the desired length, then re-seat. On your next reloading order I would get an inertial hammer for pulling a bullet. There are better methods for pulling a bullet but they work, don't cost much, & you WILL need to use one a time or 2.
 
thanks for the replies!

yep, 45 acp

i did 16 last night after reading this thread. they all all looked good. based on the looks of the bullet and the replies in the thread, i think they will be ok.

i have a friend that has been reloading 30 yrs, i plan on calling, more than likely taking a few out for him to check out.
 
810wmb":197c8kv8 said:
yep - i'm using a digital caliper. i pushed a couple down, they look fine.

Hi,

Not being contrary, just looking to the future: that digital caliper needs to be used on the very first completed round that comes off the press! Might save 299 MORE mistakes from happening...

No need to ask how I arrived at this philosophy... ;)

Rick C
 
Rick Courtright":1cu802s4 said:
810wmb":1cu802s4 said:
yep - i'm using a digital caliper. i pushed a couple down, they look fine.

Hi,

Not being contrary, just looking to the future: that digital caliper needs to be used on the very first completed round that comes off the press! Might save 299 MORE mistakes from happening...

No need to ask how I arrived at this philosophy... ;)

Rick C

:lol:

ok, here's the story - the guy i bought the bullets from, sent me some samples before i bought bulk. fifty round nose, 50 truncated. he sent them in plastic baggies with the weight of the bullets and the o.a.l.

i had been loading 9's for a couple of weeks and had forgotten the o.a.l. being the ever careful and o.c.d. prone reloader guy, i went searching for the plastic bag.

yep, grabbed the wrong one.

i used up one box of the 45's. i decided to write the info in the side of the postal box for future reference.


that's when i pooped my britches!

so i did used the caliper from the word go, just had the wrong freakin info. i had that sinking feeling in my stomach, as i looked up at all that work for naught!
 
810wmb":1wl10xoh said:
so i did used the caliper from the word go, just had the wrong freakin info. i had that sinking feeling in my stomach, as i looked up at all that work for naught!

Hi,

We've all had that feeling if we've loaded much... and I'm convinced anyone who says he hasn't is either a real wet behind the ears newbie, or being a bit reckless w/ the truth!

Now, here's a "Do as I say, not as I do" suggestion:

In your loading notes book, or perhaps in a spreadsheet or database program, set yourself up w/ a chart that shows each bullet by average weight, diameter, overall length of the bullet itself, and overall length of the loaded round it's to be used in. You could also assign a "catalog number" to each bullet if you wish and add more info, such as brand, alloy, lube, etc. if you want to be really complete about it. That way, if you end up w/ some bullets in the wrong baggie or box (yup, I know how THAT happens, too! ;) ), you've got some extra cross reference info to ID what you have and how to use it.

I said "...not as I do" cuz it's taken a couple of false starts to get my loaded round spreadsheet close to complete. Bullet sheet's coming next. It's amazing how much stuff gets "lost" in the notes over time!

Good luck!

Rick C
 
Did you see if a round would chamber, if it chambers then .05" won't make any difference. I read on different forums and people are concerned about OAL, but except to work in a magazine or clip, the OAL can vary greatly depending on the firearm. When the specs for a cartridge are written a number for length is arrived at, but each gun is different. I would bet that most guns would easily chamber a round longer than spec.
I have reloaded for over 35 years and I seldom measure OAL, but I do chamber the first round and make sure it is what I want before I load the rest.

ra
 
good tips rick.

for now, i'm just sticking to one basic load for 9's and 45's though. i'm new, so for the time being, i'm doing all the bullets the same. i do have it written down for my two different loads.

also the first thing i did wa toss the other plastic bag! so i have all the info in one place.

i always swore that was all i was wanting to do, make a round that works, never deviate...lately though, i have been thinking about branching out :wink:

this crap is addictive!
 
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