Anyone Here Wasting Time & Money on the NFL?

[mohavesam]

I am getting even more fed up with the private company and RWGC (rich white guys club) that is the NFL. I see then as contributing to the anti-America efforts of the various false-premise groups working against the good people.

The NFL has duped the working public for so may years now, I believe it obsolete and gaining speed toward becoming nothing more than a bad game show. Stick a fork in t!

Meh.

 

[bisley32]

As long as people keep buying tickets, attending games, and buying junk with team logos, this will continue. If the seats were vacant and people would quit watching them on TV, it would stop. I have not and will not be wasting my time or money supporting them.

 

[Valmet]

As an old school Redskins fan, the NFL is purely entertainment for me, no more, no less so I don't get wrapped up in the political side of it or I'd be irritated all of the time. I could care less what their political views are, just play football. Same as movies and music...entertainment.

 

[ronto]

I stopped wasting my time a long time ago and they never got a penny from me.

 

[sfhogman]

NFL??
There is a Triumph Bonneville parked in my garage, ready to go. And lots of beautiful roads up and down the coast....

Jeff

 

[Selena]

When I want to watch football I go see the high school team(s). In fact, right now I would put the Bombers in the field with many of the NFL teams and would not be surprised if they won. Like that would happen- the prima donnas in the NFL might get hurt... Our boys play too rough and don't pay enough.

 

[gasbag]

I wouldn't watch the Superbowl if someone gave me free tickets
and the stadium was across the street. Pro sports are a joke.
I love watching little kids playing PeeWee baseball, Boys and Girls
club leagues etc. but adults are beginning to ruin those games too.
The only purpose football serves is to keep the wife beaters, drug users
and other random thugs down on the field where you can keep an eye on them.

 

[gunman42782]

Haven't watched a game since the 80s!

 

[ProfessorWes]

Whether or not I keep watching my Chiefs will depend "bigly" on how many of them take a knee for the anthem today.

I certainly haven't been very interested in any of the other games so far this season, even those of the Chiefs' division rivals. And yes, the protests are a major part of why I'm losing interest in football. The Left has hijacked and poisoned everything they've touched, including football. And football was racialized and politicized well before Trump became President.

When I watch a football game, I want to watch football. Not breast cancer awareness, or whining about concussions or domestic violence, or protesting.

The NFL needs to decide whether it will continue to be the National Football League, or instead wants to be the National Social Justice League, so its fans can decide whether to keep watching. Or not. *shrug*

 

[427mach1]

You mean the No Fans Listening or No Fans Left?

 

[Colonialgirl]

I thinking its WAY WAY PAST TIME to start charging the NFL Income taxes and for TAXPAYERS to QUIT getting stuck to build stadiums for them where they rake in the majority of the money.

 

[Pat-inCO]

You mean the No Fans Listening or No Fans Left?

That seems to describe it very well. 8)

 

[Acorn]

I thinking its WAY WAY PAST TIME to start charging the NFL Income taxes and for TAXPAYERS to QUIT getting stuck to build stadiums for them where they rake in the majority of the money.

Agreed!

 

[pete44ru]

Whether or not I keep watching my Chiefs will depend "bigly" on how many of them take a knee for the anthem today.

Respectfully, how about if we were so judged, about kneeling in church ?

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose, those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom, and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

Keep in mind that OTHER Americans judge gun owners ignoble, despite our rights under the 2nd Amendment - so how do gun owners feel about that ?

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[Dan in MI]

Whether or not I keep watching my Chiefs will depend "bigly" on how many of them take a knee for the anthem today.

How about if we were so judged, about kneeling in church ?

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose, those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom, and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

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I look at this way. They are at work. How much political stuff will your employer allow you to do on the job?

They can have their opinion on THEIR time. They are paid to entertain (Hollywood and music industries too) Do your job and keep the politics out of it.

That said, I am about 98% NFL free. Have been since last years start of this dust up.

IF I went to a concert and unannounced the entertainer started ranting political things I would be tempted to look into a class action suit. You paid for X and got Y. Maybe that would shut them up, or force them to announce their planned speech.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

If people want to buy tickets that is fine with me. I used to go to professional games (baseball and football) when I was working and got a discount and ride to the stadium from our union but not anymore.

 

[pete44ru]

Whether or not I keep watching my Chiefs will depend "bigly" on how many of them take a knee for the anthem today.

How about if we were so judged, about kneeling in church ?

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose, those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom, and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

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I look at this way. They are at work. How much political stuff will your employer allow you to do on the job?

They can have their opinion on THEIR time.

Respectfully, I look at it this way.

We are not their employers.

It's up to their employers to decide how to deal with what they may/may not think of as misconduct in their workplace - not outsiders like us.

What a person does on company time or not, is IMO not the business of someone not of that company.

As my Mother used to admonish me, MYOB.

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[Dan in MI]

Agreed, therefore until the employer (either team owner or NFL) takes a stand I will keep my Sundays free for other things. Which is better for me anyhow.

 

[blackhawknj]

Kneeling in church is a more private matter, and is not done to protest anything.

 

[pete44ru]

Agreed, therefore until the employer (either team owner or NFL) takes a stand I will keep my Sundays free for other things. Which is better for me anyhow.

While the NFL & many NFL team owners have already done just that, I'm glad that we fans have the right to free choice - and that folks exercise their rights.

I choose to watch & do what pleases me, as a priority - life's too short.

Kneeling in church is a more private matter, and is not done to protest anything.

IIRC, kneeling in church is an extension of protesting against sin, evil & Satan.

Gun owners freely protest against encroachment of their rights, so why not folks who also feel they are being targeted by the government ?

Remember Ben Franklin's advice (paraphrased): If we don't hang together, we most assuredly will hang separately.(advise for ALL Americans)


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[Selena]

Respectfully, I look at it this way.

We are not their employers.

It's up to their employers to decide how to deal with what they may/may not think of as misconduct in their workplace - not outsiders like us.

What a person does on company time or not, is IMO not the business of someone not of that company.

As my Mother used to admonish me, MYOB.

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Really, to quote one of the writers for John Wayne...

Every so often Dev, you spell the strangest ideas. Everybody works for somebody. I work for everybody in East United States that steps into a butcher shop for a T-Bone steak and you work for me, it is not much difference

They work for every mother's child that buys a ticket or the "pay for view" fee. They work for every person that goes into a store and buys a product from one of the sponsors that helped make the game possible. And even more, they work for every man woman and child in the US that has "contributed" to an economy being destroyed in part by the leakage caused by federal funds granted to help pay for the stadiums they play in. So yes, Virginia, they do work for you.

 

[pete44ru]

They work for every mother's child that buys a ticket or the "pay for view" fee.
They work for every person that goes into a store and buys a product from one of the sponsors that helped make the game possible.
And even more, they work for every man woman and child in the US that has "contributed" to an economy being destroyed in part by the leakage caused by federal funds granted to help pay for the stadiums they play in. S
o yes, Virginia, they do work for you.

So, likewise, if we buy toilet paper made by some company, do the people working to produce such also work for us ?

'Jes askin'.......................... :mrgreen:

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[Selena]

They work for every mother's child that buys a ticket or the "pay for view" fee.
They work for every person that goes into a store and buys a product from one of the sponsors that helped make the game possible.
And even more, they work for every man woman and child in the US that has "contributed" to an economy being destroyed in part by the leakage caused by federal funds granted to help pay for the stadiums they play in. S
o yes, Virginia, they do work for you.

So, if we buy toilet paper made by some company, do the people working to produce such also work for us ?

'Jes sayin'.......................... :mrgreen:

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If we didn't buy it, would they be working?

 

[57springer]

Kneeling in church is a more private matter, and is not done to protest anything.

+1 :wink:

 

[Acorn]

Whether or not I keep watching my Chiefs will depend "bigly" on how many of them take a knee for the anthem today.

How about if we were so judged, about kneeling in church ?

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose, those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom, and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

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I look at this way. They are at work. How much political stuff will your employer allow you to do on the job?

They can have their opinion on THEIR time. They are paid to entertain (Hollywood and music industries too) Do your job and keep the politics out of it.

That said, I am about 98% NFL free. Have been since last years start of this dust up.

IF I went to a concert and unannounced the entertainer started ranting political things I would be tempted to look into a class action suit. You paid for X and got Y. Maybe that would shut them up, or force them to announce their planned speech.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[427mach1]

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose, those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom, and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

Keep in mind that OTHER Americans judge gun owners ignoble, despite our rights under the 2nd Amendment - so how do gun owners feel about that ?

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Yes, they have the right to free speech but as employees, they can be fired if they tarnish the image of their employers. If I were to protest while on the clock, I certainly would be fired. If they want to protest, they should do it on their own time.

If you think the NFL allows this because they support the first amendment, think again. The first amendment also recognizes the right to freedom of expression, often referred to as "freedom of speech".. This would allow them to express their feelings, including disparaging remarks, to the other team. Yet this is called "taunting" and is not allowed. They should be allowed to express their happiness after scoring a touchdown by dancing in the end zone. Yet this is called "excessive celebration" and is not allowed. They should be allowed to express their displeasure with the officiating. This is called "unsportsmanlike conduct" and is not allowed. They should be able to express opposing views with the coaching staff or NFL personnel. Yet this is not allowed and they can be benched, fined, or fired. They should be able to remember events such as 9-11 or show support for worthwhile causes, such as women's breast cancer research. Yet they were told they would be fined if they did any of this. https://www.usatoday.com/.../911-cleats-fines.../90363342/

Then there was the time Tebow knelt in prayer (exercising his freedom of religion) and he was reamed by the press and the NFL. It seems to me the NFL is just a little hypocritical when it comes to constitutional rights. Try exercising your second amendment rights at any NFL game and see how much they support you in that endeavor.

 

[Acorn]

Well said 427mach1!

 

[RSIno1]

Never been a football guy. Quit watching baseball after their strike - when was that the 80?. Indy is now spec cars so that's out. Never been a fan of 3rd world sports so no soccer. Guess that only leaves F1. Yeah politics there too but the teams seem to keep inventing ways to get around the FIA.

 

[6GUNSONLY]

If they depended on "fans" like me, they'd all have to get a real job.

 

[Pat-inCO]

IMO, just as we have a constitutional right to worship as we choose,
those athletes have a constitutional right to express themselves under
the 1st Amendment, as offensive to us as it may be.

Also IMO, the right to free speech (expression) is basic to our freedom,
and should lead to healthy discussion, instead of divisiveness.

It seems you have been sitting through most of this discussion, because
the concepts seem to have gone over your head.

It is . . . not . . . the player's right to protest or speak that is in question.
It IS . . . where and when . . . he chooses to take those liberties.

If the player can get the media to listen to him, he can say what he wants
so long as he DOES NOT make it look like, nor imply, that he is speaking
for other players, team management, or customers (YES, we are) that
are paying, directly or indirectly for them to play.

Once he is in the stadium, wearing the team uniform, he is an employee
that can have restrictions placed on what he says or does.

Live with it. :roll: