And yet another cartridge

[toysoldier]

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2021/1/15/new-cartridge-for-2021-68-western

The 6.8 Western, because the .270 Winchester and the 270 WSM weren't enough.

 

[Phalanx429]

IMO...Absolutely asinine. I won't be getting in line anytime soon.

 

[tinman]

Yet another cartridge ......... not one that is needed, or even wanted ...... but just so the gun mag writers continue to get courted by the ammo makers.

 

[Igor]

And people can brag about shooting 5-round 1 3/32" one-hole groups with their 6.8 Western, and they could only do 1 5/32" with their .270 Winchester.

 

[Pat-inCO]

An EXCELLENT solution, for a problem no one seems to have. :shock:

 

[nrobe50]

I will stick with my 280. I have not seen the need for another cartridge for 60 years.

 

[WAYNO]

Can you imagine what folks said when the new-fangled .30-06 was invented? Another answer to a question that wasn't asked. The 30-40 was plenty good.

 

[Paul B]

From the sublime to the ridiculous. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[Bob Wright]

Can you imagine what folks said when the new-fangled .30-06 was invented? Another answer to a question that wasn't asked. The 30-40 was plenty good.

Your post reminded me of my uncle from Middle Tennessee. He went into the Army in World War One and he told me that the Springfield Rifle, M1903, was the first cartridge rifle he ever saw or fired. He used the term "Britch loader."

Bob Wright

 

[wwb]

One would think that the lesson had been learned quite a few years back when there was a flood of "newer & better" cartridges, almost all of which are dead and forgotten.

"Wow !!!! This new 7mm super-short ultra magnum is 27 fps faster at the muzzle than the old 7mm whatever !!!"

Yawn.

 

[Johnnu2]

Just another 'ammo' that you can't get..... and glad of it too.

J.

 

[Heliman]

Can anyone say .45 GAP? Still some around, but never really caught on...

 

[BlkHawk73]

Just think, a generation or two ago, people were saying the same about the very cartridge we all love and enjoy and that many deem as necessary.

 

[daveg.inkc]

I see a faster twist on rifling, for heavier bullets. There are 90 grs -170 grs for the 1925 original. I find these lighter, varmint loads very accurate. Right my M77, .270 is filled with 115 hpbt’s. 3031 powder. Extremely accurate.

 

[redhawker]

And people can brag about shooting 5-round 1 3/32" one-hole groups with their 6.8 Western, and they could only do 1 5/32" with their .270 Winchester.

As long as you can put every round you shoot on a pie plate sized target the gun, and you, are accurate enough to take most big game animals.

 

[ptypegreen]

Historically and generally a cartridge achieves wide popularity in several ways. It fills a "hole", real or perceived, that existing cartridges do not such as 300 Win Mag or 7mm Rem Mag. Or it is adopted by the military followed by the civilian populace. Sometimes a new cartridge is created with similar performance to an old one but the new one's components MAY be easier to come by such as creating the 7mm-08 when there was the existing 7 X 57mm. Most of the rest fade. Of course there are exceptions.

 

[gramps]

I like to stick to “standard” cartridges. A girlfriend’s grandfather died and she got his “custom rifle”. Couldn’t find any ammo anywhere for it since it was a wildcat round. I wanted a 30/06 due to its versatility, ubiquitous ammo supply. When I was buying a deer rifle my Rem 788 was all that was available ( affordable to me) just before deer season, so I settled on a .308. These new cartridges just aren’t worth the ammo hassles. If your standard gun isn’t working for you shoot it more, learn your woodscraft, and get closer.
gramps

 

[Mobuck]

The only way I'm going to buy a rifle for "a new cartridge" is if it comes with a lifetime supply of ammo. The 6.5 Creedmoor I bought last fall would be little more than a conversation piece if I didn't already own a case of ammo bought 3 years ago when I got the AR 10. Now, I seriously regret wasting 15% of the 6.5 Grendel ammo I had on hand chasing the accuracy issue I had with one barrel.

 

[bobski]

and the vast majority of buyers most likely will shoot them at a 50 or 100yds at a range out of their 40x scoped guns....on paper.

 

[bobski]

the way I remember commerce to suppose to happen is...there is suppose to be a need and a cry for a product...and then the industry fulfills the desire of the customer.
instead, industry makes all this stuff like a dessert tray at a fancy restaurant...and waits for the customer to choose one, knowing hes already full and doesnt want any.

 

[WAYNO]

Gun owners are the most critical and the most harsh to the firearms and ammo industry. If you don't like what's offered, just stand back and see if the new offerings can stand on their own, without your hope that they will fail. New cars, new engines, new transmissions, new toasters, new washers...Without new offerings, there would be little to sell. Industry may as well shut down. I don't really need more or newer firearms, yet I continue to buy the latest offerings. Just because it's the hobby I love. And firearms owners begrudge me the opportunity.

And sometimes, in the myriad of new offerings, there are sometimes improvements that are actually accepted by our community.

I remember when Ruger announced their own 1911. Even on this forum, folks squealed like a pig, that Ruger would manufacture their own version of such a pistol that there was not a need. Try buying one today.

 

[Pat-inCO]

I remember when Ruger announced their own 1911. Even on this forum,
folks squealed like a pig, that Ruger would manufacture their own version
of such a pistol that there was not a need. Try buying one today.

Apples vs grapefruit.

Gun manufacturer in an establish caliber vs new caliber.

 

[TRanger]

While I will agree we probably need this about as much as carbonated buttermilk, the plain fact is guns generally don’t wear out given any kind of reasonable care. The manufacturers would quickly go out of business if they didn’t regularly introduce “new and improved” products. Frankly, I’m just glad it’s not another .30-caliber Magnum; of which I am confident we now have a sufficient selection.

 

[krw]

I hav killd deer with everything frim a 222 up through 300WM. As I hav now got older and I think more knowledgable, a 223Rem and a 308Win does everything I need and 98% of what I want. And when you start stockpiling reloading supplys for2-3 calibers, you can rathole enough to keep them running for a lifetime fairly easy

 

[vito]

Sounds like an absolute MUST BUY, RIGHT NOW! If the gun magazine writers like it, it must be terrific and something that all of us need to get. Or maybe not.

 

[wwb]

If one is to be brutally honest, a .22 rifle, a .30-06 rifle, a .357 magnum revolver, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun will cover every need within reason. I was never one to be much for honesty......

 

[6GUNSONLY]

Time will tell. Some "newcomers" (6.5 Creedmore, for example), while maybe not absoluteley needed or necessary, do fill a niche and are likely here to stay. Others, like this new 6.8/.270, really seem superfluous. From a technical case design and performance standpoint, I see what they were trying to do, and they were successful (long heavy-for-caliber bullet, maximum case capacity within the parameter of working in a short action). Did we NEED it? Almost certainly not. It will catch on; or not. I'd predict not, but I might have said the same thing about 6.5 Creedmore.

 

[Skoopski]

I’ll stand by my 6.5x55 Swede. I have no need for fancy new creedmores.

 

[muzzleloader]

I’ll stand by my 6.5x55 Swede. I have no need for fancy new creedmores.

^^^^^^^
This :D

 

[6GUNSONLY]

Right. Not saying the 6.5 Creed was needed, either, just that it does seem to be here to stay.