Ammo advice

eagleguy

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Need to purchase the following ammo.

25, 380 and 38 calibers.

I am looking for cheap ammo of reasonable quality for the range and for the 380 some good street. Any recommendations? There are sooo many brands available and sooo many different prices that it gives me a headache! I have used PPU rounds for the range in the past but sometimes in the semi auto’s including my 9 and 40 there have been issues. Not ready to go the reloading route yet.
 
At present, I doubt that you'll have the option of picking brands or types. And who knows what will define "cheap ammo" during the coming weeks or months.
Some places still have plenty of .25 ammo. 380's and .38's though, not so much.
I think that I saw where AmmoToGo.com is having a close-out sale on .25ACP last night.

My personal experience with .25 and .380 ammo suggest that all things considered, plain-jane FMJ is about the best "all around" choice, and that there aint a lot of difference in any of the "made in USA" brands.
Given a choice, I personaly prefer a 158 Grn lead bullet for the 38 Spl caliber. A LSWC has worked better for me than the traditional RN design, but time has proven that either will do a perty-good job at whatever use they are put to. Either are available in standard "service load" loading by almost every company that makes ammo, and at least one manufacurer (Federal) also offers the LSWC version with a +P rating.
Some ranges requires that you use jacketed bullets, some don't. If I was just plinking around, any of the 130-FMJ offerings would suit me about as well as another.
If I felt the need for a high-speed JHP, I'd look real hard for some Remington 125 +P's.

FWIW, I'm perty hard-headed about using ammo that is put up in brass cases. On the other hand, if I was forced to chooze another option, I'd pick steel cases over aluminum.

That's all I know about that.
My opinion + a couple of bucks might buy ya a cup of coffee.

DGW
 
Not sure what to tell you for cheap ammo, but for .380 "street" ammo, Remington Golden Saber 102gr is excellent ammo. They have another "home defense" brand as well, that is a 102gr. It's the exact same ammo as the Golden Saber, ballistics are identical, same Golden Saber bullet design. These two are the only defense ammo I carry in my LCP.
 
White box Winchester FMJ 130 gr comes in 50's and 100's and shoots well. It's brass to so you can save them for later. Remington also makes an FMJ 130 gr in 50's that are brass. They are both about $0.47 each at Wal-Mart (when they have them), slightly less ($0.42) for the 100 rd box. This ASSumes you are talking about .38 SP. The white box Winchester also comes in +P so make sure you get what you intend.
 
When it comes to defense ammo (street), I am a Hornady fan. Right now you'll find range/target ammo is catch as catch can.
 
Cheesewhiz said:
When it comes to defense ammo (street), I am a Hornady fan. Right now you'll find range/target ammo is catch as catch can.

Not at all cheap, costs twice what other real brass stuff costs. Not saying it's not nice.
 
GasGuzzler said:
Cheesewhiz said:
When it comes to defense ammo (street), I am a Hornady fan. Right now you'll find range/target ammo is catch as catch can.

Not at all cheap, costs twice what other real brass stuff costs. Not saying it's not nice.

I took his reference for "street" ammo for defense ammo, not range fodder. I see many sellers are getting as much as what Hornady XTP, etc.....cost a week ago for that very fodder, pretty sad.
 
OP said he was looking for cheap ammo. I probably missed some of the details you describe once I saw that word. I hope to find some of the Hornady .38sp or .357m in my second stocking LOL 'cause I don't wanna pay for it.
 
Thanks for asking our advice.
eagleguy said:
Need to purchase the following ammo.

25, 380 and 38 calibers.

I am looking for cheap ammo of reasonable quality for the range and for the 380 some good street. Any recommendations? There are sooo many brands available and sooo many different prices that it gives me a headache! I have used PPU rounds for the range in the past but sometimes in the semi auto’s including my 9 and 40 there have been issues. Not ready to go the reloading route yet.
Sorry, I don't know much about factory ammo. I have not bought any appreciable amounts in the past 40 years.

My contribution to your question is this: Calculate the cost of one year's supply of range ammo. The grand total might give you the perspective of the long view of reloading.

In big, round terms, the amount of money it takes to buy 500 to 1,000 rounds of commercial ammunition will also buy you a complete, good quality loading setup AND enough powder, brass bullets and primers to load that same number of rounds. After that, the savings continue for the rest of your shooting life.

I started a thread a year ago (that has recently been revived) that might make interesting reading.

Good luck. Thanks for reading.

Lost Sheep
 
If you shoot more than 100rds. a year, reloading will save you money, and be much nore satisfying.
 
I thought about reloading but after looking into the initial kit price and supplies for the different rounds I use the expense didn't seem justifiable at the moment. However, if ammo keeps going up the way it is I might reconsider
 
eagleguy said:
I thought about reloading but after looking into the initial kit price and supplies for the different rounds I use the expense didn't seem justifiable at the moment. However, if ammo keeps going up the way it is I might reconsider
I apologize for the repetition.

With a $110 kit
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8710&dir=210|212|237|1009
plus $35 each for dies of your chosen chamberings you can reload your own (already purchased, if you have been saving them) empty once-fired cases. They can be re-used any number of times. (Bottle-necked cases have relatively short lives, but straight-walled cases can be used many many times. I rarely have to discard a case, usually losing them long before wearing them out.

Primers are 3 or 4 cents each bought by the hundred, 500 or 1000.

Propellant (gunpowder) can be had for $25 to $35 per pound and in the calibers you named, a pound will yield 500 to 1500 rounds, depending on the powder and which chambering you are loading.

As an example, $305 will buy that kit and enough supplies to load 1,000 rounds of 38 Special, 9mm or 380 Auto (plated bullets) (not counting the brass, which you already have, I think). That is $15.25 per box of 50 for 1,000 rounds. And the next 1,000 is $8.00 per box of 50 since the equipment has been paid for by the first 1,000, counting at $15.25 per box.

This does not count your time (say 10 to 12 hours to learn how and one hour per box, so 35 hours to get those first 1,000 rounds).

If you make the kit an auto-indexing turret press, your initial cost goes to $350, but your time to load changes. 10 to 15 hours to learn and 20 minutes per box, so about 17 to 20 hours to get those first 1,000 rounds and the next 1,000 is $8 per box of 50 and 7 hours time.

Factory ammo is certainly more convenient and I will not fault you for preferring it. But I am a dyed-in-the-wool reloader having bought my first gun and first press at the same time.

I can see the virtues of commercial ammo. I just don't weigh them as heavily as you might. I just encourage you to go in with eyes wide open and see the picture in its totality.

For myself, my defense ammo is commercially loaded. But all my practice ammo is loaded by me. It is what I choose and others make different choices. So bless them and bless you with whatever choice you make.

If this post doesn't nudge you enough, I wish you a Happy New Year, good shooting and good luck. If it does nudge you enough to at least be curious, I have a list of threads you might enjoy.
 
At this point it appears we are going to have the worst ammo panic yet. You will have to settle for what is offered. But, if you have any choice at all I get good results with Winchester white box, PMC and Magtech. I like S&B also, but I think they are part of Magtech now. IMHO the east European, Russian and Chinese stuff should be avoided no matter how cheap.
 
Thanks. I do get wordy, but it seemed worthwhile to drill down to the realistic results one can expect. Even if my post got "numbery" as well as wordy.

I am pleased you found my post worthy of the bandwidth. You're welcome.

Lost Sheep
 
I was able to order most of what I needed for the range from the Sportsman Guide. However, I can't find any large 300-575 boxes of 22LR anywhere. Any ideas??
 

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