AI Threat

[MaxMan]

Whern I was a kid in school we had to do papers. The papers had to be researched from at least three sources foot noted, The conclusion in the paper had tp be our own. no [ledgerizing the encylpedia allowed.

It looks like we are heading to AI being the supreme if not only resouce for schools. Kods dont have to dig for information, analyze it, and form a conclusion based on the inflormation fund, just whatever AI says. This spells the death of any lind of critical thinking skills.

AI Hmmm Sounds familiar.
The Canaanites, including those of Ai, were known for their polytheistic religion and practices that were abominable to the Israelites, such as child sacrifice and idolatry. The conquest of Ai, like other Canaanite cities, was part of God's judgment against these practices and His fulfillment of the promise to give the land to the descendants of Abraham.

 

[GunnyGene]

Whern I was a kid in school we had to do papers. The papers had to be researched from at least three sources foot noted, The conclusion in the paper had tp be our own. no [ledgerizing the encylpedia allowed.

It looks like we are heading to AI being the supreme if not only resouce for schools. Kods dont have to dig for information, analyze it, and form a conclusion based on the inflormation fund, just whatever AI says. This spells the death of any lind of critical thinking skills.

AI Hmmm Sounds familiar.
The Canaanites, including those of Ai, were known for their polytheistic religion and practices that were abominable to the Israelites, such as child sacrifice and idolatry. The conquest of Ai, like other Canaanite cities, was part of God's judgment against these practices and His fulfillment of the promise to give the land to the descendants of Abraham.

There's been tons of articles about how AI is effecting education, from K-12 to Universities. Here's one from this past Jan.

https://learningsciences.smu.edu/blog/artificial-intelligence-in-education
Reminds me of the poem:

https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_copybook.htm

 

[Yaworski]

There's been tons of articles about how AI is effecting education, from K-12 to Universities. Here's one from this past Jan.

My daughter has her Master's in Education and really hates the way that Chromebooks have become the go to thing in education and really dislikes "AI" because it encourages kids to cheat.

 

[GypsmJim]

I know people and businesses that promote AI. My personal opinion is that EVERYONE (not just CEOs) need to have honesty, integrity and respect for their workers, coworkers and other people in general.

From what see, the AI promotors have none of these qualities.

AI is the work of the devil. Mark my words, we will live to see the final days.

 

[vito]

I'm an old codger and I find it so easy to ask ChatGPT or Perplexity.ai or any of the other free AI apps to create something for me just by asking. I can't imagine kids not using AI even more creatively. The only sure fire way schools will have to prevent this kind of cheating is to go back to the "blue books" where students will have to write an essay in class and without access to electronic devices at all. It will be interesting to see if this happens, and how the kids who never learned cursive will be able to handle it.

 

[Kevin]

Schools have computer programs that teachers can use to check for plagiarism.

My daughter’s school makes students sign an honor code pledge. That is taken very seriously at her school.

I’m all for AI, it’s got a lot of advantages. One assignment I heard about, a teacher made her kids write a paper using AI, then they had to go and review/edit that paper.

It’s the teachers that need to be educated on how AI can be used PROPERLY in the classroom. Kids need to be taught how to use it responsibly. It shouldn’t be banned all together.

It’s not going away, and as far as the job market… if kids don’t know how to use AI, then their potential job will go to the next person who does know how to use it.

 

[ProfessorWes]

Kids aren't the only ones using AI for research . . . and in the process they're training AI to be a tool of deliberate misinformation and lies. Turns out the "ghost in the machine" is Joseph Goebbels' ghost.

https://germanoddities.substack.com/p/evil?triedRedirect=true
"Let me be clear. People published fake quotes pretending that the people speaking at Charlie (Kirk)'s funeral were fully fascists and were basically not speaking from the heart but quoting literal Nazis. These quotes are an absolute lie. A blatant one.

At first I was like. This is dumb. Why would they do this?

Then…

I was drinking a glass of wine late at night and suddenly it hit me.

'They are feeding the AI!'

. . . If you just state something often enough, AI believes it to be factual.

We have reached it.

The point of no return.

In 10 years, we will no longer know what is true or false. We will no longer have a factual objective truth or a shared reality. The more AI is being used and replaces google and independent research, the more we will be pushed further down the rabbit hole of a world we no longer can trust.

Maybe I am too optimistic. With how rapid AI took over and made people lazy to search for their own data, maybe we are already there. Maybe it will be another year."

 

[GunnyGene]

Kids aren't the only ones using AI for research . . . and in the process they're training AI to be a tool of deliberate misinformation and lies. Turns out the "ghost in the machine" is Joseph Goebbels' ghost.

https://germanoddities.substack.com/p/evil?triedRedirect=true
"Let me be clear. People published fake quotes pretending that the people speaking at Charlie (Kirk)'s funeral were fully fascists and were basically not speaking from the heart but quoting literal Nazis. These quotes are an absolute lie. A blatant one.

At first I was like. This is dumb. Why would they do this?

Then…

I was drinking a glass of wine late at night and suddenly it hit me.

'They are feeding the AI!'

. . . If you just state something often enough, AI believes it to be factual.

We have reached it.

The point of no return.

In 10 years, we will no longer know what is true or false. We will no longer have a factual objective truth or a shared reality. The more AI is being used and replaces google and independent research, the more we will be pushed further down the rabbit hole of a world we no longer can trust.

Maybe I am too optimistic. With how rapid AI took over and made people lazy to search for their own data, maybe we are already there. Maybe it will be another year."

Very true, and it is something (feeding the beast) that is confounding the developers. AI has no moral or ethical restraints. It just doesn't care. It's sole and primary goal is to please the user, and if that means lying, or encouraging a serial killer (user), that's what it will do.

There is also a push to allow an AI/LLM to advance itself thru 'recursive learning', rather than just the developers feeding it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_self-improvement

Recursive self-improvement (RSI) is a process in which an early or weak artificial general intelligence (AGI) system enhances its own capabilities and intelligence without human intervention, leading to a superintelligence or intelligence explosion.[1]​[2]​

The development of recursive self-improvement raises significant ethical and safety concerns, as such systems may evolve in unforeseen ways and could potentially surpass human control or understanding.

 

[ex13F]

AI has caused me to spend less time online, more time outside (weather permitting) and more time reading my Bible.

 

[GunnyGene]

Here's why we can't put this genie back in the bottle:

$500 billion+ investments just by one company, in making this genie bigger and more powerful.

Globally it's several trillion dollars, nobody knows the exact amount.

https://openai.com/index/five-new-stargate-sites/

OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank are announcing five new U.S. AI data center sites under Stargate, OpenAI's overarching AI infrastructure platform. The combined capacity from these five new sites—along with our flagship site in Abilene, Texas, and ongoing projects with CoreWeave—brings Stargate to nearly 7 gigawatts of planned capacity and over $400 billion in investment over the next three years. This puts us on a clear path to securing the full $500 billion, 10-gigawatt commitment we announced in January by the end of 2025, ahead of schedule.

In July, OpenAI and Oracle entered an agreement to develop up to 4.5 gigawatts of additional Stargate capacity. This represents a partnership that exceeds $300 billion between the two companies over the next five years. The three new sites—located in Shackelford County, Texas; Doña Ana County, New Mexico; and a site in the Midwest, which we expect to announce soon; combined with an additional potential expansion of 600 megawatts near the flagship Stargate site in Abilene, Texas—can deliver over 5.5 gigawatts of capacity. Together, these sites are expected to create over 25,000 onsite jobs, and tens of thousands of additional jobs across the U.S. We remain in the process of evaluating additional sites.

 

[vito]

When I was a kid I would often ask my parents questions about any and everything, and most of the time my parents were totally at a loss to give me an answer Their normal response was "If you want to know the answer to that question, go to the library and look it up." If a question bothered me enough I would actually do that, walking the 3/4 of a mile to the local public library and spending the time to try to find the answers.

Smartphones and home computers made the gathering of information so much easier. But Google would just give you links to other sources, sometimes relevant, sometimes not The newer AI free websites, on the other hand, give you well written (or spoken) very specific information on exactly what you asked about. The downside is knowing that the AI provided information may or may not be valid since the algorithim controlling the AI wants to provide you with an answer and if it can't find the data it might well just make something up and present it as if it were factual.

We live in interesting times.

 

[wproct]

I'm just an old guy and not super smart, but to me AI is just another tool. Like tractors and automobiles replacing horses. Maybe that's an over simplification, but I think it still applies. A person is free to do whatever they wish, just like the Amish don't use electricity, automobiles, and tractors, but they survive. At my age I will be jumping ship before I will know whether I'm correct or not.

 

[Kevin]

I'm just an old guy and not super smart, but to me AI is just another tool. Like tractors and automobiles replacing horses. Maybe that's an over simplification, but I think it still applies. A person is free to do whatever they wish, just like the Amish don't use electricity, automobiles, and tractors, but they survive. At my age I will be jumping ship before I will know whether I'm correct or not.

It is just a tool you're correct. Businesses can create AI models that can help solve problems. As soon as they use AI to cure cancer or cure diabetes, perhaps more people will appreciate the importance of AI.

And maybe that is oversimplification of medical issues, but at the same time, researchers can use AI to compound data and sort through everything much faster.

Microsoft is building a $3.3 billion data center in Wisconsin, just there north of Milwaukee close to Lake Michigan. It's supposed to be open next year. Right beside it they are building a $4 billion data center.

So how many people are making money building these centers? Electricians and plumbers and HVAC technicians. Lots more too I bet. Cement companies etc.

Lots and lots of ancillary jobs have been created because of AI.

Edited to add:
These data centers are something like a million and a half square feet. That is a lot of cement and HVAC to build.

 

[Kevin]

And just another thought. If a company’s stock goes up because of AI, like Nvdia for example. If the stock market goes up, people are going to feel better about the economy and spend more money.

A few weeks ago, Oracle stock skyrocketed because of their investment in AI. So yeah, I would bet people went out and spent some of that money, probably tipped better in the restaurant that night at dinner too.

Again, just a thought.

 

[Watchman]

 

[jg123]

It'll be great or not so great, they way it has always been.