I apologize I was in a hurry yesterday when I asked the question, I hate it when my day job gets in the way! I'm a No.1 fan thru out but I have been considering a No.3 as I don't see many and just might be fun to have one. A LGS has a 200th year No.3 30-40 Krag, it has couple small dings in the wood (plain) but the metal looks clean, no mounts or rings he is asking $840. I really appreciate your feed back.